| Author | Message | ||
| Ryan Patrick Baker (Want_a_daytona)
Junior Member Username: Want_a_daytona Post Number: 62 Registered: 7-2002 |
Love the Car Kevin. Hope to see a F50 someday... | ||
| James O'Gara (Jamesogara)
New member Username: Jamesogara Post Number: 4 Registered: 5-2002 |
Anyone else think that ebay ad is just a little sketchy? No real info on the car, no seller feedback, and he claims it has an auto transmission. I think whoever bidded is about to get ripped off... | ||
| Eric Perkins (Eaperk)
New member Username: Eaperk Post Number: 5 Registered: 3-2002 |
...and a not so sparkly hood.  | ||
| Kevin Marcus (Rumordude)
New member Username: Rumordude Post Number: 21 Registered: 9-2001 |
oops, sorry i didnt mean to imply the top is a ine person thing. it is a not: it is a two people thing. it is big and bulky | ||
| Ryanab (Ryanab)
Junior Member Username: Ryanab Post Number: 52 Registered: 3-2002 |
Kevin, Fantastic car, you're a lucky man. So you CAN take the hardtop on and off by yourself? Once again amazing car! RMK | ||
| Michael Yip (Mightyslash)
New member Username: Mightyslash Post Number: 49 Registered: 4-2002 |
Is that your F50 Kevin? | ||
| Kevin Marcus (Rumordude)
New member Username: Rumordude Post Number: 20 Registered: 9-2001 |
hi tim. ;) the hard top comes with all the f50's. they alsoi have a softtop (which is really a joke). I had just put the hardtop on my car a few months ago. and let me tell you: it is *loud* in there. after 30 mins of driving around, my ears were ringing. the car was originally meant to be driven with the top off. they came from the factory without the top on, unless you asked for it to be on.     gosh, thats a nice sparkle on the hood there. the f50s were originally sold only on lease, but they did have nice looking windows stickers. the lease was 2 year term and you werent supposed to be able to sell the car during the lease period.  the f50 also comes with some swell luggage that basically has the same form and texture as the seats in the car do. ha?  | ||
| Willis Huang (Willis360)
Member Username: Willis360 Post Number: 698 Registered: 8-2001 |
I think initial orders were limited to one car per customer. The cars were leased to the customers then they buy it at the end of the lease period. As far as I know, the hardtops came with all the cars. Whether it's installed on the car or in the box at delivery time, it's another matter. We need a F50 owner to verify these matters. | ||
| Ron Thomas (Ronsupercar)
Junior Member Username: Ronsupercar Post Number: 51 Registered: 5-2002 |
I don't know how true this is, but one guy ordered two F50's.. You got it, one with the top on and one with the top off. Now that is what I call buying power.. | ||
| Bill Sawyer (Wsawyer)
Junior Member Username: Wsawyer Post Number: 176 Registered: 2-2002 |
Great. So then, you either have to leave it at the dealership or have your entourage follow in a pick up truck to retrieve the top. I knew there was a good reason why I didn't buy one. (-: | ||
| Ron Thomas (Ronsupercar)
New member Username: Ronsupercar Post Number: 50 Registered: 5-2002 |
Luigi is correct..and like he said removing the top is a dealer job and can take anywhere upto 30min to do with two people working on it... | ||
| Ernesto (T88power)
Member Username: T88power Post Number: 369 Registered: 2-2001 |
Nope, still de-cated Luigi. And enjoying it!! It feels much looser now at the high RPMs.. Ernesto | ||
| Luigi Gatti (Luigi)
New member Username: Luigi Post Number: 42 Registered: 10-2001 |
As far as I know all the 349 F50s produced were barchettas, with a removable hardtop. As Tenney says, the only fixed roof F50s were the GT racing models. BTW: Ernesto, is your 360 still de-catted or did you re-install them? | ||
| RM Valher (Rmv)
New member Username: Rmv Post Number: 38 Registered: 4-2002 |
An automatic F50??? This is what E-Bay claims. | ||
| Andrew (Mrrou)
Member Username: Mrrou Post Number: 284 Registered: 3-2002 |
i saw a red f50 at the new england ferrari dealer in mass..it was in storage near the garage door with a car cover on it..the dealer was nice he let me see it..sooo buetiful..the dash and the air vents in the front were incredable... | ||
| Kelly J. Vince (Tifosi1)
Junior Member Username: Tifosi1 Post Number: 225 Registered: 2-2002 |
Well they are all to big. if anyone has a program to shreak it down let me know. THX Kelly | ||
| Kelly J. Vince (Tifosi1)
Junior Member Username: Tifosi1 Post Number: 224 Registered: 2-2002 |
Here's some more picture of Jim's car. I was the one who posted them on the Ferrari list.  | ||
| Mark (Study)
Junior Member Username: Study Post Number: 244 Registered: 10-2001 |
When they first came out... I read that taking the roof off was a dealer job. Always thought that was funny that you would have to take it in to the dealer to add or remove top. But I guess it makes sences if its a race car... not really a street car like we are use to. | ||
| Ernesto (T88power)
Member Username: T88power Post Number: 365 Registered: 2-2001 |
Tim, the one you saw was definitely a barchetta, that you can remove the detachable top. What we are saying is that there may be some berlinetta models where the top is not removable (it is fixed). From what I read at the FNA site I think there are two models, but we have no confirmation... Ernesto | ||
| Chris Richardson (Boozy)
Junior Member Username: Boozy Post Number: 151 Registered: 11-2001 |
There's one on Ebay. Current price $700,000 and it has a bid! http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1827933092 | ||
| Tim N (Timn88)
Member Username: Timn88 Post Number: 909 Registered: 6-2001 |
Im 99.99% positive that they are changeable. On the one i saw you could see where the roll bar had some scratches from changing tops. The older FNA site had a picture of it in barchetta configuration with the top suspended above it. | ||
| Kristoffer Hansson (Maverick)
Junior Member Username: Maverick Post Number: 75 Registered: 3-2001 |
I know the reason for having the hardtop on. It was a period of beautiful weather in stockholm at the present time. So he definitely didn�t have to have it on. But i recognised that his path were leading to one of swedens most well known ferrari mechanics. Ofcourse, one wants to keep the hardtop on if you dont know who will have permission to the area that the car is stored. I will post some nice pictures of three of the finest 365 bb that we have in sweden. But thats coming up later this week. Cheers /Kristoffer | ||
| BretM (Bretm)
Advanced Member Username: Bretm Post Number: 2645 Registered: 2-2001 |
As per FNA "there needed to be a balance between aerodynamic loads in the dual configuration (Berlinetta and Barchetta) because of the high performance." - this leads me to think it is a convertible. But the quote you had Ernesto is right off of FNA and leads me to think that some are 100% hardtop like you said. Interesting. | ||
| Michael Yip (Mightyslash)
New member Username: Mightyslash Post Number: 46 Registered: 4-2002 |
I dont think the F 50 owners post here..... | ||
| Tenney (Tenney)
Junior Member Username: Tenney Post Number: 126 Registered: 2-2001 |
Pretty sure the track-only GT is the only F50 with a permanently fixed roof. | ||
| Tim N (Timn88)
Member Username: Timn88 Post Number: 907 Registered: 6-2001 |
I think we have only one. Rumordude where are you? | ||
| Ryanab (Ryanab)
New member Username: Ryanab Post Number: 49 Registered: 3-2002 |
Where are the F50 owners on here??? We need pics asap! Or are the just humble? RMK | ||
| Ernesto (T88power)
Member Username: T88power Post Number: 364 Registered: 2-2001 |
I just found this info on www.f50.com: "The F50 shell is built entirely of composite material with carbon fibre, Kev lar by Cytec Aerospace and Nomex honeycomb. A choice of a Berlinetta or Barchetta configuration is available. On the Berlinetta version, the hard top complements the structural elements of the car. While the Barchetta version incorporates the anchorage points for two anti-roll bars. The engine is covered by transparent body work which contains aerodynamic air vents. " So, I assume this means that there are hardtop versions as well as open top versions that come with a removable hard top. I know this is not an official site, but I could not find any info anywhere else... Ernesto | ||
| Tim N (Timn88)
Member Username: Timn88 Post Number: 905 Registered: 6-2001 |
Bret is right. The hard top is removeable. When its off, another peice thats sort of like a fairing goes in. Any F50 can be either a berlinetta or a barchetta. | ||
| BretM (Bretm)
Advanced Member Username: Bretm Post Number: 2644 Registered: 2-2001 |
Alright, I might be way off base here then. I thought it's just like a hardtop for any other convertible. Here's a pic of with and without, you can see where it attaches. From what I understand that horizontal line behind/below the roll bars is a piece that comes out when the hardtop is put on. You can see that line in the hardtop ones also. Where are the F50 owners when you need them?  There are two on here...   | ||
| Ernesto (T88power)
Member Username: T88power Post Number: 363 Registered: 2-2001 |
I thought there were some F50s that are 100% hardtop, ie you cannot remove the roof. Maybe I am mistaken? Ernesto | ||
| Tim N (Timn88)
Member Username: Timn88 Post Number: 902 Registered: 6-2001 |
So what did he say about that comment? I would respond with some d*ck comment like "at least i have an F50." | ||
| Michael Yip (Mightyslash)
New member Username: Mightyslash Post Number: 45 Registered: 4-2002 |
So it's not 100% hardtop then | ||
| BretM (Bretm)
Advanced Member Username: Bretm Post Number: 2641 Registered: 2-2001 |
They're all convertibles/targa top, but they have a hardtop (convertible top) which covers the roll bars and goes back a little bit towards the engine when put on. It has to be stored at home because it is a big piece, so many never put them on because they only drive the car in good weather. There is also a black cloth top that can be carried with the car I assume for that might rain day. On those Gumball 3000 pics the guy had the cloth top on. | ||
| Michael Yip (Mightyslash)
New member Username: Mightyslash Post Number: 44 Registered: 4-2002 |
Why are you guys so sure it's a hardtop? Can it be a targa top or convertible? Sorry, I cant tell. | ||
| Tim N (Timn88)
Member Username: Timn88 Post Number: 901 Registered: 6-2001 |
I saw one at Miller yesterday with Kenny. We dont have any pictures though. It was the first time i ever saw one in person. It was amazing. It wsa so wide and low, i dont know how some people say that they are ugly. | ||
| Ryanab (Ryanab)
New member Username: Ryanab Post Number: 46 Registered: 3-2002 |
Least he can say he drives an F50 daily.... By the way, love the hardtop on that red F50! RMK. | ||
| John A. Suarez (Futureowner)
New member Username: Futureowner Post Number: 38 Registered: 3-2002 |
Well, the first time I saw it in person I was very surprised to see how much brake dust had been caked up on the rims. Also, a good amount of the paint on the front spoiler has been scraped off to the carbon fiber. The time I watched him fire up right before leaving a movie theatre in Metaire I peeked inside and it didnt look all that bad. But certainly not pristine. If you look at the 2 pics of his car on www.ferrarilist.com, then you will get a good idea of how it sometimes looks. From what I can gather, he drives that car every day unless a problem with it arises. Now that takes balls. His deal is that he considers himself an enthusiast, NOT a collector. And that means hands on as much as possible. P.S. I need to run to the store to grab the new Forza so I can read how he responded! | ||
| J. Grande (Jay)
Member Username: Jay Post Number: 358 Registered: 10-2001 |
Willis in the current issue of Forza he wrote a letter to the editor about the way the article was writen. He was not amused at the "rattiest F50" comment. It was pretty funny. I actually agree with him...drive the car and enjoy! | ||
| Andrew (Mrrou)
Member Username: Mrrou Post Number: 273 Registered: 3-2002 |
was the f50 just dirty on the outside or was there sandwiches and stuff inside | ||
| Michael Yip (Mightyslash)
New member Username: Mightyslash Post Number: 40 Registered: 4-2002 |
Very nice. I'd love to see one on the road. | ||
| John A. Suarez (Futureowner)
New member Username: Futureowner Post Number: 36 Registered: 3-2002 |
Willis, I still have that older Forza issue when he bought the F50 GT. He has a nice framed copy of the cover hanging right behind his desk here in New Orleans. I think the GT he had is the one that sat at symbolic motors for awhile. There was also a cool piece on My Classic Car that featured him and his Shelby Daytona Coupe. | ||
| Willis Huang (Willis360)
Member Username: Willis360 Post Number: 694 Registered: 8-2001 |
No, never met him before. He's quite well known, actually. His F50 (along with a couple of other toys) appeared in an issue of Forza. A recent Forza issue "razzed" him for showing up in a dirty F50. | ||
| John A. Suarez (Futureowner)
New member Username: Futureowner Post Number: 35 Registered: 3-2002 |
Willis, have you met Jim before? He has had some outstanding cars huh? ---John | ||
| Willis Huang (Willis360)
Member Username: Willis360 Post Number: 693 Registered: 8-2001 |
You know, I get a lot of comments about how "dirty" my black 360 look from the local FCA guys. That's fine with me because it shows that the car is regularly used. | ||
| John A. Suarez (Futureowner)
New member Username: Futureowner Post Number: 34 Registered: 3-2002 |
Also, if you go to www.ferrarilist.com and search in their gallery you can find 2 pics of Jim's f50 at No Problem Raceway near Baton Rouge. 1 pic is in the racing section, the other is about halfway down the member section of the gallery. ---John | ||
| John A. Suarez (Futureowner)
New member Username: Futureowner Post Number: 33 Registered: 3-2002 |
Willis: It is indeed Jim Spiro's car. Nice guy. Just wish he would have that car cleaner! lol Peter: I think this car in black is incredible. If I had an f50 I would be very tempted to have it in black. Here is a link to a pic http://www.geocities.com/ferrari597/f506.jpg | ||
| Willis Huang (Willis360)
Member Username: Willis360 Post Number: 692 Registered: 8-2001 |
Black F50. New Orleans. Drive it daily. Isn't that Jim Spiro's car? | ||
| Peter K. (Bubba)
New member Username: Bubba Post Number: 10 Registered: 5-2002 |
Black F50? Hmmm...interesting color. Does it look better than the red? | ||
| John A. Suarez (Futureowner)
New member Username: Futureowner Post Number: 32 Registered: 3-2002 |
I interned over at Smith Barney in New Orleans over the summmer and had the awesome pleasure of seeing the black F50 my boss drove on a daily basis. The best was following the F50 on the interstate on the way to see a movie. Then after the movie I got to watch him fire it up and drive off with me drooling behind him. That car really has an incredible sound. Now that I think about it I should have taken a picture! ---John | ||
| BretM (Bretm)
Advanced Member Username: Bretm Post Number: 2613 Registered: 2-2001 |
I've seen two on the road (one drove past my house and another at the gas station) never had a camera though. Neither one of them had the hardtop on like this though. Good work Kristoffer. | ||
| Ron Thomas (Ronsupercar)
New member Username: Ronsupercar Post Number: 45 Registered: 5-2002 |
One of the best things that can happen to a person besides winning a 28 million dollar lottery is to see a F50 on the road and have your camera with you the same day.. What are the odds? | ||
| Kristoffer Hansson (Maverick)
Junior Member Username: Maverick Post Number: 74 Registered: 3-2001 |
For a couple of weeks ago I had the extreme luck to see a F50 in the streets of stockholm. And I�ve lived happily ever since. I had a camera with me so I was able to snap a shot. So here it comes.  I�ll post some pictures from the annual meeting of the swedish club of Ferrari in the next week. |