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Patrick Roberts (Patrickr)
New member Username: Patrickr
Post Number: 17 Registered: 4-2002
| Posted on Monday, May 13, 2002 - 5:26 pm: | |
Hey Tyler... I noticed you are in Tulsa too. What model/color Ferrari do you have? I need to know who to wave at next time I spot an F-car. I keep seeing a black F355 on Lewis. Sweet car. There is a giallo modena yellow 550 but I think that is Roy Bliss'. The only other Ferrari's I see on a regular basis are: green '95 F355 spyder, black 348, white 308, red 308, and I have seen a yellow F355 spyder in town though I haven't seen it in over a year. See you around! Patrick |
Tyler (Bahiaau)
Member Username: Bahiaau
Post Number: 264 Registered: 12-2001
| Posted on Monday, May 13, 2002 - 4:36 pm: | |
Andrew I've got a client who has a 512TR with 60K on it and uses it as a daily driver. He has a 96 Yukon with 11K on it as a bad weather car. Those are his only two cars. I aspire to someday be able to have 2 or 3 F cars so when one is in the shop I can drive the other ones. I think having an F-car as a daily is something to aspire to. As side note, his TR has been virtually trouble free. He claims that this is BECAUSE he uses it daily. |
joe saldana (Ironjoe)
Junior Member Username: Ironjoe
Post Number: 66 Registered: 12-2001
| Posted on Monday, May 13, 2002 - 4:02 pm: | |
Take a 250 TR and look at it real close and then take a beautiful women laying on a bed (scantily clad)...........SAME LINES OR WHAT..........I am fortunate to have had very beautiful women and awesome cars, the cool thing is their both naturally beautiful, and you can massage them both,to as high peformance as you want....... |
Tenney (Tenney)
Junior Member Username: Tenney
Post Number: 130 Registered: 2-2001
| Posted on Monday, May 13, 2002 - 2:41 pm: | |
Enzo never told me his intention, Andrew, and so I can't be truly certain of this, but have heard that he preferred customers to crab-walk as a form of basic transportation. Supposedly, this was a success for some time. That is, until excessive moccasin wear occurred in several instances. And so some began driving their F-Cars to the market on occasion. Again, Enzo never confided this to me, could be merely a rumor. Your results may vary. |
Tim N (Timn88)
Member Username: Timn88
Post Number: 916 Registered: 6-2001
| Posted on Monday, May 13, 2002 - 2:35 pm: | |
Sometimes i think to myself, who gives an F--- about exclusivity as long as its fast. Then i remeber it its not only about the performance. People say vettes arent exclusive, but how often do you see a Z06, or for that matter a car who's performance is on par with a Z06? (dont say every time you open your garage, i mean other cars on the street) |
Andrew (Mrrou)
Member Username: Mrrou
Post Number: 280 Registered: 3-2002
| Posted on Monday, May 13, 2002 - 2:05 pm: | |
to me it is not ferrari or nothing...but i believe in exclusivity when purchasing a car. Corvette's are not excelusive. I would get an M5 because that is an ecclusive BMW..i dont se many of them around.. but ferrari's are not cars....god who uses a ferrari just as a means to get to the grocery store..ferrari's as transportation was not enzo's intention..and it shouldnt be ours |
Frederick Thomas (Fred)
Member Username: Fred
Post Number: 460 Registered: 2-2001
| Posted on Sunday, May 12, 2002 - 10:47 pm: | |
I have a Ferrari and I think corvetts are great cars. Just because I have a Ferrari doesn't mean I can't think other sports cars are cool too. Sometimes it seems as though Ferrari owners come across as Ferrari or nothing. |
Patrick Roberts (Patrickr)
New member Username: Patrickr
Post Number: 16 Registered: 4-2002
| Posted on Sunday, May 12, 2002 - 10:17 pm: | |
I hope I didn't sound harsh in my post, Ferrari's are works of art. Corvette's are beautiful too but the fact that you see 10+ per day diminishes the rarity trait. Yes I love my Corvette but I hope to be a passionate Ferrari owner soon! Hey, tifosi can be passionate too! ;) Patrick  |
Tim N (Timn88)
Member Username: Timn88
Post Number: 913 Registered: 6-2001
| Posted on Sunday, May 12, 2002 - 9:58 pm: | |
Ferraris look good, but i also want a car that is fast as hell and made to move on the track. I dont care what it looks like. An all fuction track car must be fun. |
Stephen Patterson (Srpatterson)
Junior Member Username: Srpatterson
Post Number: 147 Registered: 11-2001
| Posted on Sunday, May 12, 2002 - 9:42 pm: | |
Ed, I believe that you have correctly stated the main theme of this thread, namely cars as objects of affection and desire instead of just transportation. No doubt Ferraris are art on wheels. Don't believe me? Just look at a Testarossa, or 250LM, or Lusso, or F50, or any other Ferrari from 1947 until today. But, just as I respect a 308 owner, who worked hard for his car, I respect the Corvette owner, or other more generic car owner, who has worked hard to have something much more than just a "driver". Wow, Ferrari owners sure are a passionate lot. |
Edward Gault (Irfgt)
Intermediate Member Username: Irfgt
Post Number: 1376 Registered: 2-2001
| Posted on Sunday, May 12, 2002 - 9:40 pm: | |
I never will forget back when I worked for a Chevy Dealership. The Sales Manager ordered a Pickup truck and checked the wrong color box and this was the ugliest damn thing you have ever seen. It was like Green and Orange two tone. We didn't know what to do with this thing so we decided to paint it. Would you believe someone came along before we could even get it to the body shop and bought it. They thought it was the prettiest truck they had ever seen. I still see that stupid thing around town. It is hideous. |
Edward Gault (Irfgt)
Intermediate Member Username: Irfgt
Post Number: 1375 Registered: 2-2001
| Posted on Sunday, May 12, 2002 - 9:33 pm: | |
Boy, the Vette lovers will appreciate that and there are a bunch of them waiting to purchase one which is dragging down the selling price of C-5 Vettes. Yes Magoo, there are some people who view their vehicle as strictly a tool and could care less what it looks like. |
Patrick Roberts (Patrickr)
New member Username: Patrickr
Post Number: 13 Registered: 4-2002
| Posted on Sunday, May 12, 2002 - 9:16 pm: | |
Yikes... the Pontiac Aztec! What an... interesting car. Do you know that the guy who styled the Aztec is in charge of styling the C6 (next generation) Corvette? Patrick  |
magoo (Magoo)
Advanced Member Username: Magoo
Post Number: 2725 Registered: 2-2001
| Posted on Sunday, May 12, 2002 - 8:48 pm: | |
Ed, I agree, That is very true in the sense of car lovers but there are those who buy the "UGLIES" and don't give a sh-t what they look like as long as they start and move when they put it into gear. |
Edward Gault (Irfgt)
Intermediate Member Username: Irfgt
Post Number: 1373 Registered: 2-2001
| Posted on Sunday, May 12, 2002 - 8:37 pm: | |
Every car is a work of art in it's own way. Some people are attracted to Ferraris and some to the Aztec just as some are to a Monet and some to a Velvet Elvis. Just think about all the car designs that are out there driving around with their owners believing theirs is the most beautiful car in the world. |
Patrick R. (Patrickr)
New member Username: Patrickr
Post Number: 12 Registered: 4-2002
| Posted on Sunday, May 12, 2002 - 8:25 pm: | |
I agree 100% that Ferrari's are works of art. They are hand crafted automobiles... not stamped from huge machines like most others. In regards to the Corvette issue. I don't have a Ferrari, but have the pleasure of owning a 2002 Corvette. I love the car, it is fun to drive and easy to get serviced. Ferrari's are so rare around these parts (have seen a handful in Oklahoma). Anyways, it is the rarity and beauty of Ferrari's that draw attention. I too think the Corvette is a beautiful automobile. Just my $.02 Patrick |
Stephen Patterson (Srpatterson)
Junior Member Username: Srpatterson
Post Number: 146 Registered: 11-2001
| Posted on Sunday, May 12, 2002 - 3:30 pm: | |
James, Thanks for clearing that up. Are you going to be in LA for the Ferrari Club of America convention in two weeks? Steve |
James H. (Jamesh)
Junior Member Username: Jamesh
Post Number: 82 Registered: 5-2001
| Posted on Sunday, May 12, 2002 - 1:35 pm: | |
I am kind off sorry I shared my thoughts because it gets all blown out of porportion by some. I simply wanted to share how much I love the looks of Ferraris. To me, all the cars on the road on Friday evening was plain looking. Thats not to say I am being disrespectful of the owners of their cars. Now if there was a Lambo or a 33 Ford or a 300SL gullwing or whatever that is out of the norm on the road that day, maybe I would not have posted my thoughts. I appreciate the lines on a Ferrari but never said they are the best cars on the road. Yes, I do own a 65 Corvette roadster and a 31 Ford Model A, but if I was to take a long trip, I would take my Toyota Tacoma. Now, cant we just all get along and be able to share our love and passion for the Ferraris. |
Stephen Patterson (Srpatterson)
Junior Member Username: Srpatterson
Post Number: 145 Registered: 11-2001
| Posted on Sunday, May 12, 2002 - 12:22 pm: | |
I hate these opinion threads. James makes a comment like "...nothing can compare to the looks of a Ferrari." and off we go. Are Ferraris great cars? Yes. Are they the one and only best cars on the planet now and for all time to come no matter what? No. Other makes, such as Porsche and Corvette, do make me appreciate my Ferraris all the more. I had the very first Boxster in Kansas City. Fun little car that got ALOT of attention in 1997. As good a car as my F355B? No way. Would I trade my 355 for a McLaren F1? You bet. Yesterday I saw one of the new Mercedes 500SL's at Autosport Gallery. A beautiful car that the new owner said drove and handled like a dream. Do I want one? Probably not, but I would dare say it is as good a car as anything coming out of Maranello. According to James H.'s profile he also owns a 1965 Corvette. I think the C2 vettes (especially with 427's and hood stinger) are one of the most beautiful cars of all time. Ferraris are great and magical cars, but they are not the ONLY game in town. BTW...The guys over at mclarenf1.chat think we're all a bunch of whiners. (Ed, this smiley's for you) |
Edward Gault (Irfgt)
Intermediate Member Username: Irfgt
Post Number: 1366 Registered: 2-2001
| Posted on Sunday, May 12, 2002 - 10:57 am: | |
If someone is not kidding then they need to say so. The last SOB that used a Smiley Face was trying to blow people up. |
Frederick Thomas (Fred)
Member Username: Fred
Post Number: 451 Registered: 2-2001
| Posted on Sunday, May 12, 2002 - 9:58 am: | |
Man Ed, lighten up a bit. I think Andrew was just kidding anyway. |
Jerry W. (Tork1966)
Junior Member Username: Tork1966
Post Number: 155 Registered: 7-2001
| Posted on Sunday, May 12, 2002 - 7:52 am: | |
Vettes are nice but they are definitely a far cry from a Ferrari. I say this not with any hint of being condescending toward these cars or the people that own them whatsoever. With the exception of some of the mid 60's and the new Vettes, they are a very affordable vehicle for most people. You can buy a mid 70's Vette for under $10,000. Production in these years was anywhere from 30,000-50,000/year; most of which stayed in the U.S. The Vette does not exactly have a cult following outside the U.S. When was the last time you saw a Vette in Italy? |
Edward Gault (Irfgt)
Intermediate Member Username: Irfgt
Post Number: 1360 Registered: 2-2001
| Posted on Sunday, May 12, 2002 - 4:38 am: | |
Gee, Andrew I am trying to see things from your point of view but I can't seem to get my head that far up my ass. I have the means to own almost any car I want and I choose a Ferrari over a Corvette. Since I have a job that involves repairing said vehicles and having a first hand experience with them I feel as though I should be able to form an opinion. Since I also am not blind, and even though I am not a full blown College grad, I do have the ability reason well and maybe some day when you are grown you will understand that A Ferrari is not the only vehicle being produced and there is a reason there are so many Corvettes being sold. |
BretM (Bretm)
Advanced Member Username: Bretm
Post Number: 2633 Registered: 2-2001
| Posted on Saturday, May 11, 2002 - 10:36 pm: | |
I think calling any car (yes a Ferrari is a car) a work of art is a stretch, but Ferraris would come the closest to art out of automobiles. I wouldn't trash the Mona Lisa, but if I had enough money I'd be doing donuts in my F50 every morning, afternoon, and night. Granted when things broke I would fix them and over maintain the car, but still. If Ferraris are art than they are art that should be handled like it was stolen. |
Andrew (Mrrou)
Member Username: Mrrou
Post Number: 279 Registered: 3-2002
| Posted on Saturday, May 11, 2002 - 9:33 pm: | |
edward..are you saying a vette is better then a ferrari? is this vettchat.com or ferrarichat.com?  |
Tim N (Timn88)
Member Username: Timn88
Post Number: 900 Registered: 6-2001
| Posted on Saturday, May 11, 2002 - 1:53 pm: | |
Definately. I noticed that about a year ago. I thought to myself "Damn, nothing, not even really flashy cars, are as impressive as a ferrari." They are flashy, but not flashy. Its hard to explain. MAybe a better way to put it is that they dont need to be flashy to look good. I dont know. I gotta go now, kenny and i are taking a trip to Miller Motorcars, its a nice day so alot of peolpe will stop by in their nice cars. Maybe, just maybe, ralph lauren will stop by in one of his mclaren F1's. |
Edward Gault (Irfgt)
Intermediate Member Username: Irfgt
Post Number: 1353 Registered: 2-2001
| Posted on Saturday, May 11, 2002 - 1:11 pm: | |
All Corvettes are works of art and durable and powerful.They just don't draw as much attention due to the volume. |
Steve Hanis (Steve_hanis)
New member Username: Steve_hanis
Post Number: 4 Registered: 5-2002
| Posted on Saturday, May 11, 2002 - 11:27 am: | |
The TR is a dream car of mine. Hopefully someday I will be able to acquire one. All Ferraris are indeed a work of art, but there is a small demon inside of me that wants to romp and stomp in a new Z06 Vette. Maybe someday I could have both? Oh well back to reality. :-)
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Ron Thomas (Ronsupercar)
New member Username: Ronsupercar
Post Number: 48 Registered: 5-2002
| Posted on Saturday, May 11, 2002 - 10:35 am: | |
I must agree with you James. The Ferrari body is put together by hand, not a machine on a assembly line..Not only that but the early Ferrari metal bodies were sculpted by hand with a hammer.. Look at the lines for the 166mm of the 250 gto of even the P3. If thats not art I don't know what is.. |
Allen Cook (Alcook62)
New member Username: Alcook62
Post Number: 22 Registered: 3-2002
| Posted on Saturday, May 11, 2002 - 10:20 am: | |
I agree with James. When I am driving my 24 y.o. 308 I attract attention like I never had when out with the C4 vette. People SEE the Ferrari, they want to look at it and always have questions etc... |
Edward Gault (Irfgt)
Intermediate Member Username: Irfgt
Post Number: 1346 Registered: 2-2001
| Posted on Saturday, May 11, 2002 - 5:04 am: | |
I have to agree on the appearance issue. We wouldn't be here if a Ferrari was as dependable as a Toyota and looked like a Yugo. |
Andrew (Mrrou)
Member Username: Mrrou
Post Number: 268 Registered: 3-2002
| Posted on Friday, May 10, 2002 - 11:53 pm: | |
ok james H, i agree with you 100%..if you want to get from point a to point B..get a stupid geo..a ferrari is not a car..it is an italian work of art and should be treated as such |
Stephen Patterson (Srpatterson)
Junior Member Username: Srpatterson
Post Number: 141 Registered: 11-2001
| Posted on Friday, May 10, 2002 - 10:54 pm: | |
OK, let's be careful here... I appreciate what you are saying, and yes, I'm as much of a tifosi as anyone. But I don't think it is fair to discount anyone else's ride simply because it is not a Ferrari. I'm sorry, but IMHO, this is no different than saying that a 308 is not as good as an F40, or F50, or 330GTC. Ferrari fans are a pasionate lot, of that I am certain. But let's respect other's decision to drive Corvettes, or other cars instead of Ferraris. Whatever car you desire is the best car on the planet, period. Let's just leave it at that. If it happens to be a Ferrari (and you're smart if it is), then so be it. |
Peter K. (Bubba)
New member Username: Bubba
Post Number: 9 Registered: 5-2002
| Posted on Friday, May 10, 2002 - 10:07 pm: | |
I couldn't agree with you more. Ferraris are more than cars. Each one of them is a work of art. I drive a Mondial, which still looks a million bucks compared with most of the other cars today. |
James H. (Jamesh)
Junior Member Username: Jamesh
Post Number: 79 Registered: 5-2001
| Posted on Friday, May 10, 2002 - 10:02 pm: | |
Just wanted to share my thoughts. As I was driving home today I saw a red Corvette with a T top next to me which made me think of my Ferrari. Thats when it hit me. The Corvette was rather plain looking in comparison to the 308's and 328's. I then started looking at all the cars on the road, the Toyotas, Mercedes, Porsches, Nissans, etc and nothing can compare to the looks of a Ferrari. A Ferrari isnt just a car, its a work of Art. Thats my opinion and I am sticking to it. Oh by the way, this goes for all Ferraris, its just that I am partial to the 308s and 328s |