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Martin (Miami348ts)
Intermediate Member Username: Miami348ts
Post Number: 2092 Registered: 5-2001
| Posted on Thursday, May 16, 2002 - 3:58 pm: | |
We had quite our share of drag races and deadly accidents here iN FLA and this is why they passed this law. I agree with it and it will certainly be handled correctly. It will end up spending some 18 year olds a night in the local. As we are above the drag racing influence I see no point in fearing this law. Speeding a different issue. Went 102 on Aligator Alley in the middle of the Everglades and they pulled me over. 32 over the limit. $300 later and thanks to good attorneys no points but driving school, I had a expensive weekend in january. Yes Paul, the spoiler at the bar was part of that same weekend.  |
wm hart (Whart)
Member Username: Whart
Post Number: 284 Registered: 12-2001
| Posted on Wednesday, May 15, 2002 - 3:55 pm: | |
What if you are actually a priest on your way to molesting a young boy? An Enron exec. going to meet with his off-shore tax planner? It seems to me that there are a number of viable defenses... |
Willis Huang (Willis360)
Member Username: Willis360
Post Number: 705 Registered: 8-2001
| Posted on Wednesday, May 15, 2002 - 2:26 pm: | |
It seems like a lot of parents don't teach respect or morals to their children anymore. I've seen little kids in stores who would put their hands in a total stranger's basket or cart while standing in line and their parents say and do nothing to stop it. All that's gonna teach the kids is that they could get away with anything. |
Mitchell L. Davidson (Jussumfastgi)
Junior Member Username: Jussumfastgi
Post Number: 71 Registered: 4-2002
| Posted on Wednesday, May 15, 2002 - 2:09 pm: | |
That's not it. The kids don't respect OTHER PEOPLE and THAT is the problem. No respect at all. |
Ron Thomas (Ronsupercar)
Junior Member Username: Ronsupercar
Post Number: 59 Registered: 5-2002
| Posted on Wednesday, May 15, 2002 - 1:06 pm: | |
Thanks for reminding me about school coming to an end.....If you look at some of these cars, you can see these kids put alot of time and money into these cars..I even like looking at the work put into some of them..It's just that these kids don't respect the art of driving........ |
Eric Eiland (Eric308gtsiqv)
Member Username: Eric308gtsiqv
Post Number: 280 Registered: 11-2001
| Posted on Wednesday, May 15, 2002 - 12:29 pm: | |
I completely agree, especially with Robert and Ron -- it has really started to get out of hand around these parts in Florida with the "Fast & Furious" crowd. I've tried my best to ignore them in traffic, but it's getting to the point that you can't because they won't let you ignore them! And it's not just while driving the 308 either -- on the way home from dinner last night, riding in the family van with the wife and kids, I felt like I was driving in a combination of a war zone and the Indy 500!! And to think it's only going to get worse once school's out. |
Mitchell L. Davidson (Jussumfastgi)
Junior Member Username: Jussumfastgi
Post Number: 57 Registered: 4-2002
| Posted on Wednesday, May 15, 2002 - 11:16 am: | |
What makes matters even worse is they do all this .... in mostly stock economy cars! What are they thinking! |
Ron Thomas (Ronsupercar)
Junior Member Username: Ronsupercar
Post Number: 58 Registered: 5-2002
| Posted on Wednesday, May 15, 2002 - 11:13 am: | |
Robert Davis- Let me tell you. I thought it was bad with these kids in NY.. Here in Fla. they are all over. This morning I came across one of them stopped by a cop. Last night on the way home 3 of them racing on the road passed me.. I'm not an old fart that's uptight, It's just that most of them have no regards to anything.. We as adults follow unwritten rules of driving fast..They on the other hand drive on the emergency lanes, push you off the road to pass you and at their car shows, I've heard that they even scratch up each others paint if one is better than the other..What's up with that!!!! I'm just upset that now we may suffer if caught enjoying these cars every once and awhile.... |
Dino Micalizio (Ingenere)
New member Username: Ingenere
Post Number: 13 Registered: 12-2001
| Posted on Wednesday, May 15, 2002 - 2:09 am: | |
If they are going todo the time stamp thing. I will be more than happy to keep an old license plate in my car....blast down the highway...and switch it out before I get off. Track that!! |
G.Peters (Wfo_racer)
New member Username: Wfo_racer
Post Number: 7 Registered: 5-2002
| Posted on Wednesday, May 15, 2002 - 2:02 am: | |
We have those damn traffic cameras here in Ca. What I did was break the plate holders and keep the broken parts in a bag in the car with new holders to explain to the cop if I get pulled over. But like I said in other posts nothing beats a fast bike. With a 0 to 100 time in around 5 seconds the police are a minor annoyance. On the bikes we tuck the plate under the rear fender , legal here but very hard to read unless you follow directly behind. By the time the reach for the radio for help you are sitting at a gas staion up the road having a snack. |
Andrew (Mrrou)
Member Username: Mrrou
Post Number: 293 Registered: 3-2002
| Posted on Wednesday, May 15, 2002 - 12:08 am: | |
how about we beat this new thing of tracking your speed by driving fast after point A and pulling over right before point B and waiting? Should be interesting |
Robert Davis (H2oquick)
Junior Member Username: H2oquick
Post Number: 153 Registered: 8-2001
| Posted on Tuesday, May 14, 2002 - 8:38 pm: | |
Hey Ron, I live in Florida too...lucky that we have 70 mph speed limits. It does suck about going to jail, but there is way too much kiddie racing going on anymore. I can'nt hardly remember a time when I have gone cruising in the 308 that some loud mosquito sounding Honda with a wing bigger than the car has not bothered me. The Fast and the Furious has given new meaning to the younger generation of rodders. A slap on the hand with a ticket just does not get their attention anymore. |
Jim E (Jimpo1)
Member Username: Jimpo1
Post Number: 428 Registered: 7-2001
| Posted on Tuesday, May 14, 2002 - 4:23 pm: | |
I live in TX and haven't noticed all of our speed limits going back down to 55. I do recall a thread a while ago that Houston had lowered the limits. |
Mitchell L. Davidson (Jussumfastgi)
Junior Member Username: Jussumfastgi
Post Number: 51 Registered: 4-2002
| Posted on Tuesday, May 14, 2002 - 4:21 pm: | |
Yes, but no choice but to use the highways. They will track the cars via license plate. A computer will register your car at point A. The next time you pass one of the computers it will register you at point B and calculate the slowest speed you could have traveled to reach point B. I fear this is closer than we think. After they do that, we might as well all buy challenge cars as street Ferrari's will be all buy useless. |
TomD (Tifosi)
Member Username: Tifosi
Post Number: 716 Registered: 9-2001
| Posted on Tuesday, May 14, 2002 - 4:18 pm: | |
they can take pics but I think agreed not to give tickets because otherwise people would not use the autopay system |
Mitchell L. Davidson (Jussumfastgi)
New member Username: Jussumfastgi
Post Number: 50 Registered: 4-2002
| Posted on Tuesday, May 14, 2002 - 4:15 pm: | |
Ken, it was due to the fact that they could not ID the driver. They are talking about taking pictures now (much like a red light camara) |
Ken (Allyn)
Member Username: Allyn
Post Number: 415 Registered: 10-2001
| Posted on Tuesday, May 14, 2002 - 3:02 pm: | |
I believe issuing tickets based on time stamps was found to be unconstitutional many years ago but I can't remember why. It was something rather obscure. |
Edward Gault (Irfgt)
Intermediate Member Username: Irfgt
Post Number: 1381 Registered: 2-2001
| Posted on Tuesday, May 14, 2002 - 2:18 pm: | |
There was an incident recently in Florida where a young boy just got a car for his birthday and had an accident while drag racing and believe it or not ran into his Mother and killed her. Talk about a coincidence. This probably had a big influence on the new law that I as a Florida resident agree with. There are plenty of Drag Strips if you want to race. |
Paul Sloan (Sloan83qv)
Member Username: Sloan83qv
Post Number: 334 Registered: 3-2001
| Posted on Tuesday, May 14, 2002 - 1:48 pm: | |
The law is for DRAG Racing which involves 2 cars is does not have anything to do with speeding. |
Mitchell L. Davidson (Jussumfastgi)
New member Username: Jussumfastgi
Post Number: 49 Registered: 4-2002
| Posted on Tuesday, May 14, 2002 - 1:44 pm: | |
Yes, even in the VERY back freeway roads where you can see for 10 miles in every direction... absurd! Even worse is their excuse. "To reduce emissions" All the science points to an INCREASE of emissions AND accidents as the only thing the lower speed limit will accomplish is a larger differential of speed. All well... nothing complaining will do about it. We can and moan all we like on the Internet, and it won't do anything positive. |
TomD (Tifosi)
Member Username: Tifosi
Post Number: 709 Registered: 9-2001
| Posted on Tuesday, May 14, 2002 - 1:36 pm: | |
55 in all of texas??? we have 65 less than 10 miles outside of NY. Regarding the timing you between points they can do that here with the toll passes - but they have promised not to issue tickets - I would love to see the average speed people do on the Nj turnpike |
Mitchell L. Davidson (Jussumfastgi)
New member Username: Jussumfastgi
Post Number: 48 Registered: 4-2002
| Posted on Tuesday, May 14, 2002 - 1:33 pm: | |
Of course... A "speeding Contest" can also be you trying to cover a known distance in less time than someone else.... Think about this. Your are on the freeway in your Ferrari and the fourth lane merges into the third a short ways up. You are driving 65mph (ok ok, in theory..) A Honda civic with a few punk kids in it decides at the last minute THEY are going to merge in front of you. You see them coming up on you and you push the gas down 1/3rd the way to easily stay ahead of them. WAM! You get pulled over for "racing" and ARE guilty as the law is written. You where trying to outdistance another car and they where doing the same.... this could be bad. Talk about sucking the fun out of owning a Ferrari. It could be worse. In Texas they lowered the speed limits back down to 55 (despite ALL science pointing away from this) and are thinking about installing automated timing units to track your car between two points. If you travel between two markers faster than you could have while driving the speed limit (55) they ticket you for the minimum speed you could have been driving. And you know what... there is nothing we can do about it. ;) huray! |
Dave L (Davel)
Junior Member Username: Davel
Post Number: 139 Registered: 7-2001
| Posted on Tuesday, May 14, 2002 - 1:29 pm: | |
A wreckless driving charge at a given speed above the posted limit can always result in an arrest in most states. This is really nothing new and it shouldnt prevent you from winding your car up a bit. Just dont get caught whenever you do it no matter the law. |
Ron Thomas (Ronsupercar)
Junior Member Username: Ronsupercar
Post Number: 52 Registered: 5-2002
| Posted on Tuesday, May 14, 2002 - 1:22 pm: | |
This morning while getting ready to go to work, the news reported that the state of Fla. is working on a new law that states anyone racing on the road will no longer be given a ticket..you will be arrested and your license will be suspended on the spot.. I know that this is really directed towards the kids that drag race in their honda on public roads, but it concerned me. I can't own a Ferrari and not be able to "open it up" on the road every once and a while.. I know that many of you feel the road is nowhere to be racing and I agree, but you can't tell me every once and awhile you don't hit those 100mph numbers when the opportunity allows it. My question is do you feel one can be arrested if speeding alone without being involved in a race?. This scares me......... |