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Bill Sebestyen (Bill308)
Junior Member
Username: Bill308
Post Number: 232
Registered: 5-2001
| | Posted on Saturday, May 18, 2002 - 9:27 am: | |
I bought my HPV-1 factory direct and didn't have to modify anything. Electromotive makes a special version for 2-distributor 308's to accomodate the tach signal (the HPV-1 is internally modified at the factory to simulate the signal of one distributor, as in the actual installation). In additiion to the HPV-1, I needed an MSD tach amplifier to make the signal compatible with the stock tachometer.
You will likely have to fabricate a mounting bracket to mount the control. I used a 1-1/4 aluminum angel with an attached 1/8 inch aluminum plate. The angle was drilled to hang from the former coil mounting studs. The plate was attached to hang vertically from the angle. The HPV-1 was mounted to the engine side of the plate and the amplifier to the wheel side of this same plate. The overall installation is reasonably neat and compact.
Electromotive recommends fitting the trigger wheel to the crankshaft mating portion of the damper, not the rubber mounted circumferential mass, for timing accuracy. I don't know how much inaccuracy is introduced if the trigger wheel is mounted to the circumferential mass. Understand, this mass is moving slightly, relative to the crankshaft, in order to dampen rotational vibration. The recommended mounting arrangement does require machining of the the damper assembly and trigger wheel to ensure accurate mounting surfaces, accomodate the retention bolts, and ensure free movement of the rotational damper mass. A local machine shop provided this service for about $125 and machined it to my specifications. They did a very nice job. During assembly, I found a slight interference between the trigger wheel teeth and the timing gear case in one spot. I accomodated this with a small, crescent shaped relief about 0.060 deep, with a die grinder.
Finally, you will have to fabricate a pickup mount. Existing bosses on the engine timing gear case cover can be trued, drilled, and tapped to hold this bracket. The bracket is designed to pinch the od of the pickup. This allows easy adjustment of the pickup to trigger wheel gap.
Electromotive's web site is:
http://www.emi.cc/
I have some high resolution photos if anyone is interested in seeing the installation.
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James H. (Jamesh)
Junior Member
Username: Jamesh
Post Number: 96
Registered: 5-2001
| | Posted on Friday, May 17, 2002 - 10:04 pm: | |
Does Electromotive have a website for us to check out and how much is the savings and how hard to modify to work. |
Greg Rodgers (Joechristmas)
Member
Username: Joechristmas
Post Number: 312
Registered: 3-2001
| | Posted on Friday, May 17, 2002 - 11:19 am: | |
Yes it is but it is a lot more $$$. |
Mark (Markg)
Junior Member
Username: Markg
Post Number: 203
Registered: 2-2001
| | Posted on Friday, May 17, 2002 - 8:16 am: | |
i believe Nick Sciana's kit is a direct fit, already modified... |
Greg Rodgers (Joechristmas)
Member
Username: Joechristmas
Post Number: 307
Registered: 3-2001
| | Posted on Thursday, May 16, 2002 - 6:49 pm: | |
It has to be modified to fit though. |
Edward Gault (Irfgt)
Intermediate Member
Username: Irfgt
Post Number: 1404
Registered: 2-2001
| | Posted on Thursday, May 16, 2002 - 6:36 pm: | |
It is available factory direct from Electromotive. |
Dr Tommy Cosgrove (Vwalfa4re)
Junior Member
Username: Vwalfa4re
Post Number: 132
Registered: 5-2001
| | Posted on Thursday, May 16, 2002 - 5:45 pm: | |
Who sells the direct fire ignition system? |
Edward Gault (Irfgt)
Intermediate Member
Username: Irfgt
Post Number: 1399
Registered: 2-2001
| | Posted on Thursday, May 16, 2002 - 3:12 pm: | |
I also have an 82 with the Direct fire and gutted cats and stock air filter along with my own updated timing belt system. I don't know how much HP I gained but there is a noticeable gain over stock. |
DHutchison (Hutch308)
New member
Username: Hutch308
Post Number: 32
Registered: 1-2002
| | Posted on Thursday, May 16, 2002 - 2:10 pm: | |
I have an '82 GTSi with the direct fire ignition system, a K&N, Tubi exhaust, Krank Vents, Mobil 1, and synthetic redline diff/transaxle fluid. The biggest noteable improvement was installing the ignition system, the throttle response improved dramatically. My next upgrade will be in the tires/rims, suspension area. |
Mitchell L. Davidson (Jussumfastgi)
Junior Member
Username: Jussumfastgi
Post Number: 78
Registered: 4-2002
| | Posted on Thursday, May 16, 2002 - 11:25 am: | |
Easy... Add a 4psi Supercharger to your car. Very low boost will not hurt your engine, and it will give you always on gains.
K&N is a basic performance mod, as is exhaust and high flow cats (keep the original, you may need to swap they back in for a smog test!) |
Jim E (Jimpo1)
Member
Username: Jimpo1
Post Number: 440
Registered: 7-2001
| | Posted on Thursday, May 16, 2002 - 11:12 am: | |
Rob got about a 17(?)HP boost by using a K&N air filter. Cheapest HP in the land. |
Mark (Markg)
Junior Member
Username: Markg
Post Number: 202
Registered: 2-2001
| | Posted on Thursday, May 16, 2002 - 11:11 am: | |
I also have an 82 GTSi. I have added a K&N air filter, Krank Vents and synthetic motor and gear oil. CAT replacement pipes on order; most people seem to feel an upgrade to direct fire ignition is a great boost to improving power also. |
Rene Jr Major (Maverick1001ca)
New member
Username: Maverick1001ca
Post Number: 1
Registered: 5-2002
| | Posted on Thursday, May 16, 2002 - 11:06 am: | |
i have 308GTSi 1982 only with 8000 km . i have only 214 hps . i want to know if possible upgrade the hps or any other modification for go more faster .. i do 0 to 60 mph in 7,0 sec i want to go in 5,9 ... let me know if you have any solution ... |