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Mitchel DeFrancis (4re308)
Intermediate Member
Username: 4re308

Post Number: 1058
Registered: 6-2001
Posted on Tuesday, September 16, 2003 - 4:46 pm:   

My age nahhhh. When I was a wee lad, I remember bugging Steve Ahlgrim and Ric Schumann until they took me for a ride in the latest Ferrari. They are among the nicest people I know, and I owe a lot of my passion of the marque to those guys. Instead of kicking a kid aside, they took me for rides, gave me brochures, and invited me to lots of events. God only knows how much money I have spent there. Surely enough to BUY a car. :-)

Mike, I will have to check tomorrow as I have left the office already.
Mike Charness (Mcharness)
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Username: Mcharness

Post Number: 991
Registered: 8-2002
Posted on Tuesday, September 16, 2003 - 2:32 pm:   

Mitch, I know it's off topic, but would you see if Gerald's database has anything on
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I've already run a CarFax on it... it's a car a friend of mine is considering.

Thanks!
Andy Falsetta (Tuttebenne)
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Username: Tuttebenne

Post Number: 269
Registered: 3-2003
Posted on Tuesday, September 16, 2003 - 2:21 pm:   

Mitchel,

Thanks for checking the archives; I appreciate the new information. I have a couple of other questions and will contact you off line.

Andy
Jeffrey Davison (Jeffdavison)
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Username: Jeffdavison

Post Number: 205
Registered: 7-2002
Posted on Tuesday, September 16, 2003 - 1:25 pm:   

Mitchel,

showing your age?


Jeff
Mitchel DeFrancis (4re308)
Intermediate Member
Username: 4re308

Post Number: 1056
Registered: 6-2001
Posted on Tuesday, September 16, 2003 - 12:54 pm:   

Andy, with a little research in Gerald's amazing database: the car was offered by Centennial Motorcars , Boulder, CO with 19,000 miles in Ferrari Market Letter 0614. It was then offered in mid 1981 by University Motorcars in Auburn, AL and was in an ad in Autoweek Sept 7 1981. FAF offered it for sale in late 1981.

Hope that helps!

As far as former FAF folks, there is John Apen, Gerald Roush, Harold Lovinger, Ken Irwin, Steve Ahlgrim, Ric Shumann, Rich Rudiger, Jim Weed, Terry Girone, Serio Sartor and many others that are still around. I have been a fixture at FAF since 1981.
Dr Tommy Cosgrove (Vwalfa4re)
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Username: Vwalfa4re

Post Number: 1289
Registered: 5-2001
Posted on Monday, September 15, 2003 - 4:20 pm:   

Ted used to work in the parts dept (big suprise). That's where he got started.
Dr Tommy Cosgrove (Vwalfa4re)
Intermediate Member
Username: Vwalfa4re

Post Number: 1288
Registered: 5-2001
Posted on Monday, September 15, 2003 - 4:16 pm:   

I would contact either John Apen or Steve Ahlgrim. (I bought my 308 from John)
I believe John got FAF started back in the 70's. I do know he was majority owner.
Email me privately and I will give you contact #'s if you would like.
John Delvac (Johndelvac)
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Username: Johndelvac

Post Number: 417
Registered: 11-2001
Posted on Friday, September 12, 2003 - 12:24 pm:   

Oh yeah...Mitch DeFrancis was probably there that day trying to get free brochures. Ha! Just kidding , Mitch.
John Delvac (Johndelvac)
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Username: Johndelvac

Post Number: 416
Registered: 11-2001
Posted on Friday, September 12, 2003 - 12:22 pm:   

Don't forget Terry G. at Deutchland (AKA: Old World Motorcars) and Jim Weed @ Dr. Honda (AKA: Mr. Enzo). Harold L. at FoA was also at FAF. The other FAF owner with John Apen was Hunter (I forget his first name). I believe Gerald Rousch had some involvement as well (but, I've been wrong before). But as Mike said...Ahlgrim was the man in-the-know.
Mike Charness (Mcharness)
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Username: Mcharness

Post Number: 982
Registered: 8-2002
Posted on Thursday, September 11, 2003 - 7:39 pm:   

Interesting... I didn't realize that Ted used to work for FaF.
Andy Falsetta (Tuttebenne)
Member
Username: Tuttebenne

Post Number: 261
Registered: 3-2003
Posted on Thursday, September 11, 2003 - 6:12 pm:   

Mike and Jeffrey,

Thanks for the quick replies. I'll dial up T. Rutlands first and see what Steve can recall. If he can't help I'll contact FoA next.

Since I'm up in NY I won't be able to make the event at Lake Lanier but thanks for the suggestion.

Andy
Jeffrey Davison (Jeffdavison)
Junior Member
Username: Jeffdavison

Post Number: 200
Registered: 7-2002
Posted on Thursday, September 11, 2003 - 6:01 pm:   

I know of three former employees, One of them was a co-owner and the other was one of their best techs, and one was their parts manager
John Appen, Rick Charles and Ted Rutland.

John may be able to help as he is a noted authority. Rick is now an independant consulting engineer and machinist. Ted Can be found at "T" Rutlands / Marenello parts

I don't think any of them would have records of cars specific to their serial numbers as FAF was long ago and far away.

FOA might have inherited the service records when they took the franchise. So check with them.
John and Rick will be at Italian Car Day October 4th at Buford Dam Park off of Lake Lanier.

Jeff Davison
Mike Charness (Mcharness)
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Username: Mcharness

Post Number: 981
Registered: 8-2002
Posted on Thursday, September 11, 2003 - 5:53 pm:   

Contact Steve Ahlgrim -- he now works for T. Rutlands in Atlanta. He was the original salesman at FaF on my '84 308QV and has a pretty good memory for those sorts of things.

Andy Falsetta (Tuttebenne)
Member
Username: Tuttebenne

Post Number: 259
Registered: 3-2003
Posted on Thursday, September 11, 2003 - 5:44 pm:   

I could use the help of some Southeast Region folks. While trying to piece together the history of my 77 308GTB s/n 23153, I was informed that in 1981 the Ferrari Market Letter had an ad in it listing the car for sale at FAF. I was hoping some folks in the Southeast Region might be former FAF employees and could help me track down any information on the former owner or on the sale of the car. Any help would be appreciated.

Andy

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