| Author | Message | ||
| L. Wayne Ausbrooks (Lwausbrooks)
New member Username: Lwausbrooks Post Number: 12 Registered: 8-2002 |
Edward, I believe the GTO replicas Terry's referring to are those built on 250 GTE or even 330 GT (4 liter) chassis. Good ones can not be distinguished from the real thing. Several of these were done in the late 80's as the market for real GTOs was nearing $15 million and the cost of a good rebody at the time was somewhere around $250-300K. Now these cars can be bought for around $150K. They offer an attractive alternative to either a Lusso or Boano/Ellena for similar money. Personally, I'd buy the Lusso, but that's just me. For more, check out this link: http://www.ferraris-online.com/Articles/SCM_0011.html | ||
| Edward G. Salla (350hpmondial)
Junior Member Username: 350hpmondial Post Number: 147 Registered: 2-2002 |
Ok terry, I agree with all but the 250GTO's. They are usually datsun 280Z's Even with a V-8 in a 280Z, they were downright slow and dangerous. The McPherson strutted rear end is of the poorest design. | ||
| Manu Sachdeva (Manu)
Member Username: Manu Post Number: 362 Registered: 2-2002 |
99% of the replicas I've seen look absolutely appaling - and don't fool ANYONE. They really annoy me too. Still, each to their own..... | ||
| Bill Sawyer (Wsawyer)
Member Username: Wsawyer Post Number: 392 Registered: 2-2002 |
What bugs me is the lack of imagination these guys show. It takes a fair amount of talent to build a great replica. Why not go the extra step and make it something you can be proud of? It shows a lack of self confidence to expend that much talent and then hide it behind someone else's design. | ||
| Willis Huang (Willis360)
Member Username: Willis360 Post Number: 834 Registered: 8-2001 |
Kits might be faster but they still ain't a Ferrari. Anyone tries to pass one off as the real thing is only fooling himself. Rather than copying a Ferrari, why not design something original? | ||
| Terry Springer (Tspringer)
Junior Member Username: Tspringer Post Number: 188 Registered: 4-2002 |
Yes, I think the replica very may well lap faster. However, to prove it I would have to buy it and I cant/wont/wouldnt. If that F40 replica is built on a racing tube frame chassis with lightweight glass bodywork, has racing suspension and brakes and a 600+ hp engine... then it is likely both lighter and more powerful than a stock F40. Should be faster. This of coarse is given equal, highly skilled drivers. It is also assuming the F40 replica has really been build correctly. For that price, I am assuming you are getting basically a GT chassis racecar with fake F40 bodywork. Otherwise nobody would ever pay that money. There are many replicas out there that will blow the doors off the originals. The days of VW beetle engines and pans topped with 246 Dino bodywork are long gone. There is also a huge gap between low end replicas like the fake 308's out there and high end replicas like Cobra Daytona coupes, GT40's, RS60's, Lightweight E-types, 250GTO's and the like. | ||
| Frederick Thomas (Fred)
Member Username: Fred Post Number: 536 Registered: 2-2001 |
Come on!!For that kind of money you can buy a 355 spyder. | ||
| Bruno (Originalsinner)
Member Username: Originalsinner Post Number: 344 Registered: 5-2002 |
I hate to admit it but those pics look good.I dont know what the second one cost but for 25k. I think its a deal.As long as I had a real Ferrari at home. | ||
| Horsefly (Arlie)
Junior Member Username: Arlie Post Number: 132 Registered: 5-2002 |
They say, "I guess it doesn't matter what kind of car it is, the price of the gasoline is still the same whether it's a Ferrari or a kit car!" | ||
| Dave Trbizan (Davidt)
New member Username: Davidt Post Number: 27 Registered: 1-2002 |
So when they're at the gas station with there $100K kit car and the young lad asks them, "what kind of car is it?" What do you think they say? Cheers | ||
| Tim N (Timn88)
Intermediate Member Username: Timn88 Post Number: 1379 Registered: 6-2001 |
You could have a built 600hp small block (lighter than a big block)and a T-56 or whatever they put in vipers for all under $15. Its so much cheaper for american stuff. For the price of a 30k service on an F355, you could have a whole new highly modified engine for your chevelle. | ||
| Edward G. Salla (350hpmondial)
Junior Member Username: 350hpmondial Post Number: 146 Registered: 2-2002 |
So,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, you think the replica would lap faster on the track? Prove it. | ||
| Terry Springer (Tspringer)
Junior Member Username: Tspringer Post Number: 184 Registered: 4-2002 |
I bet you could build a very hot (500hp+) big block with trans. for only about $30K to run in that replica F40. Then you would probably have a car that looks like an F40 but costs only 50%... and is a good bit faster to boot. I bet the replica would lap faster on any track and if you smash it, not as much at risk. Sounds like a fun track day car to me. I still would not buy it, simply because for $140K you can do even better in track cars.... Also, while fast and fun this car would probably be an orphan. ie: if you decided you want to really race, it has no class. | ||
| Mitchell L. Davidson (Jussumfastgi)
Junior Member Username: Jussumfastgi Post Number: 185 Registered: 4-2002 |
100k and you would know it was a fake? Bah! If you can afford 150k (engine and trany) Then you can save another 80k for a real F40. | ||
| Erich Walz (Deleteall)
Junior Member Username: Deleteall Post Number: 111 Registered: 12-2001 |
Yea, 100K does seem high. I always wondered what a F-40 powered by a Grand National V-6 would do, but at 100K I'll keep wondering. | ||
| Frederick Thomas (Fred)
Member Username: Fred Post Number: 535 Registered: 2-2001 |
100k and no engine or tranny!? Why not just by the real thing if you are going to sink that much into it. The engine and tranny have to be plenty expensive. | ||
| Erich Walz (Deleteall)
Junior Member Username: Deleteall Post Number: 110 Registered: 12-2001 |
The second one was made from splash molds off a real f-40. It has tube frame, custom alloy suspension, 6 caliper brakes, electronic dash, ZF transaxle, and a twin turbo v-8. Without engine/tranny it goes for $90,000-$100,000. | ||
| Ron Thomas (Ronsupercar)
Junior Member Username: Ronsupercar Post Number: 222 Registered: 5-2002 |
I agree with Doody but that first one is really bad..If it's done right they can be look pretty cool... Remember, not everyone can afford a Ferrari but everyone in their right mind wants one... | ||
| Mr. Doody (Doody)
Member Username: Doody Post Number: 353 Registered: 11-2001 |
oh c'mon guys. don't beat these folks up that much. it's just a car. they're having fun in a manner they enjoy. i wouldn't buy one of these things, but i understand why they might dig it. doody. | ||
| Ken (Allyn)
Member Username: Allyn Post Number: 491 Registered: 10-2001 |
I want to put a Ferrari engine in a Fiero. | ||
| Ron Thomas (Ronsupercar)
Junior Member Username: Ronsupercar Post Number: 219 Registered: 5-2002 |
I must admit dispite the added air scoops and wind deflectors on the nose, the 2nd replica is dead on from what I can see......... | ||
| Martin (Miami348ts)
Advanced Member Username: Miami348ts Post Number: 2566 Registered: 5-2001 |
I still think we should buy a Fiero Kit car and have the "First Annual FerrariChat Burn-A-Kit Bonfire". Everybody chip in $100 and we will have a blast (literally) We could create a charity to rid the earth of bad Ferrari Kits and the donation would be tax deductable.  | ||
| David Jones (Dave)
Junior Member Username: Dave Post Number: 218 Registered: 4-2001 |
I wonder if they have watch contests like they do for kit cars.... And winner of the best Rolex knock off is.... | ||
| Manu Sachdeva (Manu)
Member Username: Manu Post Number: 360 Registered: 2-2002 |
The first replica is just plain sorry. The second one is pretty amazing. | ||
| Dave Penhale (Dapper)
Junior Member Username: Dapper Post Number: 157 Registered: 4-2002 |
oh dear | ||
| Chris Horner (Cmhorner17)
New member Username: Cmhorner17 Post Number: 11 Registered: 4-2002 |
Boy it looks so......real. The automatic trans console lifted straight out of a Camaro, the engine in the FRONT, the GM standard-issue controls and floormats, etc etc etc. | ||
| Erich Walz (Deleteall)
Junior Member Username: Deleteall Post Number: 109 Registered: 12-2001 |
Someone had previously mentioned having different topic sections. I think we need one for ebay & kit car monstrosities. Anyway, that's bad F-40 replica. Take a look at good F-40 replica.    | ||
| Jim E (Jimpo1)
Member Username: Jimpo1 Post Number: 613 Registered: 7-2001 |
Hmmm....you could buy a nice GT4 for the same money and have a Ferrari. | ||
| Christian (Christiank)
Member Username: Christiank Post Number: 381 Registered: 1-2001 |
Why??? A real one is 10 x the money, some people just don't have the pocket money. | ||
| Jim E (Jimpo1)
Member Username: Jimpo1 Post Number: 612 Registered: 7-2001 |
http://photos.yahoo.com/stuartr98 What a waste of man hours. |