| Author | Message | ||
| L. Wayne Ausbrooks (Lwausbrooks)
Junior Member Username: Lwausbrooks Post Number: 112 Registered: 8-2002 |
Edvar, quick response before i check out your site: You are correct, the original 1989 Mythos is at the Gallery Abarth about 4km from Yamanakako in Japan. Erich, if you're interested in getting the real thing, give them a call at 0555-62-4884. =) | ||
| Edvar van Daalen (Evandaalen)
Junior Member Username: Evandaalen Post Number: 70 Registered: 10-2001 |
Regarding the Mythos, I thought that the original car (built on a Testarossa chassis) is now in Japan. The car is driveable, so if you have a large bag with money, you can perhaps buy this one. Another option is to go to Brunei and have a chat with the Sultan. He owns at least two "Mythos" cars, specially built by Pininfarina for the Sultan. Both are RHD. I thought one was blue and the other red. At least this is better than a "Fiero Mythos" ;-) | ||
| Erich Walz (Deleteall)
Junior Member Username: Deleteall Post Number: 115 Registered: 12-2001 |
Fishy isn't correct. The correct term is scam. Last year this guy was sellig his MC-12, which looked like a McClaren. He even had photos in his ad-of a Real McClaren. Touted it up and had a really good website, but no car. He later posted the MC-12 again, acknowledging that a prototype hasn't even been built yet and using photos of the plug. Now he's got just the body panels for sale. Interestingly, he uses the same photos of the same plug always in the same state, but assuring us it only 6 months from being completed. Oh, and that yellow Diablo is not even his. | ||
| NGSVDO (Azspider)
Junior Member Username: Azspider Post Number: 77 Registered: 6-2001 |
Here is an interesting one. If it is real, they will be shut down quickly. It sounds pretty fishy though. http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1850693277 | ||
| Ben Cannon (Artherd)
Junior Member Username: Artherd Post Number: 51 Registered: 6-2002 |
As a Fiero owner, I agree, don't tart up a Fiero to look like a 308, it's just not classy. (it'll cost more, and never quite be The Dream. Stick a N* in the Fiero and save for the F-car ;) Now, a true *Replica* (eg AC Cobras, and GT-40s built on tube frames that surpass the orgional dynamically, and can pay homage asthetically) are great! I'd throughly enjoy a true well thought out and executed Replica. Especially a car that was never actually produced. That'd be simply stunning! PS: you'll find carbon to be a great material, and EXPENSIVE as all heck to work with. Don't do wet-layups (fibreglass style) with it, it's a real waste of weight, you've gotta autoclave and vacumm bag! | ||
| Erich Walz (Deleteall)
Junior Member Username: Deleteall Post Number: 114 Registered: 12-2001 |
Thanks for the replies. Yea, I know it not original and so will everyone else. First, as mentioned, it was never produced. Second, if i'm driving it, it will only be because its finished to a degree comparable with most production cars and I'll be proud to say I built it. I do plan on using TR mechanicals eventually. My plan is to first build a mule using a stretched fiero chassis just to see how everything works together and test various fittings, etc. For example, the front overhang is low and long. Would like to see how that works on everyday streets or see if there's a solution without altering the body shape. Better to screw up a fiberglass body at 1.50 sq yrd then a carbon fiber one at 15.00 sq yrd. | ||
| Jim E (Jimpo1)
Member Username: Jimpo1 Post Number: 628 Registered: 7-2001 |
James, I remember that 250TR 'replica'. You'd have to be a concours judge to know that car wasn't the real thing! | ||
| James Gardner (Jhg)
New member Username: Jhg Post Number: 5 Registered: 12-2001 |
Erich, Great idea!!!! I have actually thought of it in the past and talked to a few guys about it that actually know a thing or two about building one-offs. First of all IMO a "replica" is just something that resembles the original. A "rebody" is a much better and more qualified reproduction from the original. The Ferraris that I have seen have all been made from Ferrari frames using Ferrari parts. The only thing not actually original is the body. I had the great pleasure of being able to drive an alloy body pontoon fender TR built on a 250 chassis with a 250 race motor. Man was it awesome. It used all the same parts that the original cars used, right down to the steering wheel. I think that if you build a car, use a TR for a base car, don't listen to what others say about value of the car, it's your money and its your time. | ||
| wm hart (Whart)
Member Username: Whart Post Number: 456 Registered: 12-2001 |
Never drove a real one, but had a ride in a very good conversion, which allegedly used factory rear clip, had curved side windows, etc. and while beautiful, the thing seemed loose as hell. If that is typical of cut cars, or of real spyders, i would much rather drive the coupe. | ||
| L. Wayne Ausbrooks (Lwausbrooks)
Junior Member Username: Lwausbrooks Post Number: 81 Registered: 8-2002 |
Personally, I've always thought the coupes looked better, anyway. The cut spyders, even the Straman conversions, are still worth the same as a coupe. That means, that if you like the look and the open air experience, you can buy a cut car, enjoy it, and sell it for the same $ as if it were an uncut car. As far as dealing with the constant question of "Is it real?" from onlookers, as Michael Sheehan says, you can "take solace knowing that owners of the real thing get asked the same question. They just have a different answer." | ||
| Bill Sawyer (Wsawyer)
Member Username: Wsawyer Post Number: 404 Registered: 2-2002 |
What is your opinion of Daytona Coupes that have been converted into Spiders? | ||
| L. Wayne Ausbrooks (Lwausbrooks)
Junior Member Username: Lwausbrooks Post Number: 79 Registered: 8-2002 |
"Sanction II", Terry. Aston people would cringe at your use of the word "replica." | ||
| Terry Springer (Tspringer)
Junior Member Username: Tspringer Post Number: 208 Registered: 4-2002 |
They dont all look like replicas and sometimes buying the real thing is simply impossible. There are some true down to the nut and bolt 250 GTO replicas out there that cannot be distinguished from the real thing except by chassis plate. They can be bought for $200K or so. A real one, if/when you can find one for sale, will set you back $8,000,000+. Same basic story is true for 250GT SWB's, 550 Spyders, Cobra Daytona coupes, GT40's and other limited production crazy expensive cars. Clearly, there is a place for a very high end replica. To me, the term replica is much abused. A "replica" should be a replication of the original. This means it should be exact in cosmetic detail and extremely close in mechanical specification. No 308 "replica" based on a Fiero qualifieds! They are not replicas, they are cheap copies. A big difference. I would kill for one of the Aston DB4 GT Zagato "replicas" produced by Aston Martin with sequential serial numbers a few years ago. Were these just cheap copies? | ||
| Fred (Iluv4res)
New member Username: Iluv4res Post Number: 20 Registered: 8-2002 |
Don't get a replica. They ALWAYS look like a replica and always will be just a replica. Save some $ and then go and buy the real thing. Or buy something else now within your price range. | ||
| Willis Huang (Willis360)
Member Username: Willis360 Post Number: 853 Registered: 8-2001 |
The Mythos was built on Testarossa mechanicals. Get a Testarossa and rebody it if you really want one. | ||
| chris (Wrench_turner)
New member Username: Wrench_turner Post Number: 25 Registered: 5-2002 |
Not knowing what a Mythos was, I typed Ferrari Mythos into google - if what I saw is what you are talking about I'd say you should start with at Diablo 6.0 because that's pretty much what it looks like. | ||
| Ron Thomas (Ronsupercar)
Junior Member Username: Ronsupercar Post Number: 235 Registered: 5-2002 |
Erich, Would you be using a TR to build this kit or a Fiero.. I ask because I'd hate for you to rip apart a real TR to go through the trials and errors that come with putting a kit car together.. If you are looking to use a Fiero or tube chasis, it will be expensive but your not ripping up a beautiful work of art.... My 2 cents  Let us know what you decide... | ||
| Jack (Gilles27)
Member Username: Gilles27 Post Number: 541 Registered: 3-2002 |
Erich, if the Mythos wasn't ever produced, then technically yours wouldn't be a replica! Hart, are you gonna get it? If you do, then the only proper thing to do is hunt down the bat boat. Imagine the looks you'd get driving around town towing the bat boat behind the batmobile! | ||
| wm hart (Whart)
Member Username: Whart Post Number: 450 Registered: 12-2001 |
I'd rather have a real Batmobile (one was offered recently, from the Adam West TV show era, and had the flamethrower, and other accessories restored).So, if anybody gave you any •••• about its authenticity, just toast 'em. | ||
| Mitchel DeFrancis (4re308)
Member Username: 4re308 Post Number: 617 Registered: 6-2001 |
Wayne is right man. For the mula you will end up spending on a replica, you can get into a real one for less. I hate to mention this but, everyone will know it is a fake. You will have a hard time fooling any Ferraristi. Just my .02 But whatever floats your boat!.... | ||
| L. Wayne Ausbrooks (Lwausbrooks)
Junior Member Username: Lwausbrooks Post Number: 59 Registered: 8-2002 |
Erich, If it makes you happy, why not? Don't expect to come out of it without taking a huge financial hit, though. building it will be unbelievably expensive, selling it will be next to impossible. But, hey, if you have the dough and want to be happy, go for it! | ||
| David Jones (Dave)
Junior Member Username: Dave Post Number: 229 Registered: 4-2001 |
If I were to ever own some sort of replica like that, it would have to have some special powers, like a ray gun, or deflector shield, or be able to make me invisible... You know, some real cool reason for being. | ||
| Erich Walz (Deleteall)
Junior Member Username: Deleteall Post Number: 112 Registered: 12-2001 |
It's been like 13 years now and I'm fairly sure the Mythos isn't headed into production. How would you guys view a replica of a car which was never actually produced. Don't get me wrong I have no intentions of selling them, just a one-off for myself. It'll be ferrari sourced of course. |