| Author | Message | ||
| Barry Wolinsky (308gtb)
Junior Member Username: 308gtb Post Number: 230 Registered: 2-2002 |
 Angle of Incline: 51� 52' | ||
| Kevin Marcus (Rumordude)
New member Username: Rumordude Post Number: 44 Registered: 9-2001 |
It has like 3700 miles. i think the enzo looks like crap but i'm sure the ride will make up for it! i have a deposit in for the enzo but i doubt they are going to allocate one to me since my "racing career" just started this year. If they give me one i'll take it. | ||
| Kenny Herman (Kennyh)
Member Username: Kennyh Post Number: 357 Registered: 8-2001 |
How many miles do you have on it now- driving it more? You looking into the newer Enzo (and what do you think of it)? | ||
| Kevin Marcus (Rumordude)
New member Username: Rumordude Post Number: 43 Registered: 9-2001 |
the f50 seats are not custom fitted (to me at least). i think you're confusing it with the f40. the stereo is right behind where you sit. It only plays one station though which is alwyas playing ferrari engine music.  there is heating but no ac. the blower is actually pretty powerful and the air comes out pretty powerfully especially if you keep some of the vents closed. | ||
| Warren L. (Warren)
Junior Member Username: Warren Post Number: 89 Registered: 2-2002 |
Kevin, You have an F50? Wow, that's awesome. I sat in Mike Tyson's F50 that was being worked on in NJ. At the time he was getting a stereo put in and they had to cut through a lot of the carbon fibre dash. Is it true that the F50s doesn't come with a radio, AC, heating? Are the seats custom fitted to you too? How do you like it and where do you get it worked on? I have NEVER seen one of these on the roads. | ||
| Kevin Marcus (Rumordude)
New member Username: Rumordude Post Number: 42 Registered: 9-2001 |
it's in the shop (again). Are you seeing a recurring theme here? | ||
| Kenny Herman (Kennyh)
Member Username: Kennyh Post Number: 355 Registered: 8-2001 |
Kevin, how is your F50? | ||
| Kevin Marcus (Rumordude)
New member Username: Rumordude Post Number: 41 Registered: 9-2001 |
Well, I guess now i know for sure i should never become an artist. First everyone thinks I am making ski slopes or mt. rainier images, and now it's a subaru giving people nightmares! | ||
| Warren L. (Warren)
Junior Member Username: Warren Post Number: 84 Registered: 2-2002 |
Thanks to this post, I had nightmares about that car in the diagram. I dreamt my 355 became that car and I woke up with tears in my eyes. | ||
| John J Stecher (Jjstecher)
Member Username: Jjstecher Post Number: 280 Registered: 1-2002 |
You guys are scaring the hell out of me....I am having flashbacks to grade school and geometry class!! ahhhhhhhhhhh | ||
| D B (Threesixty)
New member Username: Threesixty Post Number: 30 Registered: 8-2002 |
I feel like I'm back in grade 10 | ||
| Warren L. (Warren)
Junior Member Username: Warren Post Number: 83 Registered: 2-2002 |
I'm very scared now. | ||
| L. Wayne Ausbrooks (Lwausbrooks)
Junior Member Username: Lwausbrooks Post Number: 142 Registered: 8-2002 |
That's a nice diagram but, why did you choose to use a Subaru instead of a 355? | ||
| Kevin Marcus (Rumordude)
New member Username: Rumordude Post Number: 40 Registered: 9-2001 |
whoops sorry that was posted twice? | ||
| Kevin Marcus (Rumordude)
New member Username: Rumordude Post Number: 39 Registered: 9-2001 |
Yes, 45 degrees is 45 degrees regardless of the length. However, we're talking abou a change of degrees. So lets say you are super flat stuff at 0 degrees and then you all of a sudden in this infestesmally tiny spec turn upwards at 45 degrees - your car isnt' oing to make it unless it's only a few inches high (ala speed bump). But if the rate of change of the angle is low then it shouldn't be a problem at all. In other words, the different here is I'm talking about a nice smooth curve of sorts to connect (0,0) to (50,50) and many people are talking about it as if it were a straight line. But enough of this nonsense. lets assume tire pressure and little rocks don't count:  | ||
| Kevin Marcus (Rumordude)
New member Username: Rumordude Post Number: 38 Registered: 9-2001 |
Yes, 45 degrees is 45 degrees regardless of the length. However, we're talking abou a change of degrees. So lets say you are super flat stuff at 0 degrees and then you all of a sudden in this infestesmally tiny spec turn upwards at 45 degrees - your car isnt' oing to make it unless it's only a few inches high (ala speed bump). But if the rate of change of the angle is low then it shouldn't be a problem at all. In other words, the different here is I'm talking about a nice smooth curve of sorts to connect (0,0) to (50,50) and many people are talking about it as if it were a straight line. But enough of this nonsense. lets assume tire pressure and little rocks don't count:  | ||
| Warren L. (Warren)
Junior Member Username: Warren Post Number: 82 Registered: 2-2002 |
ok this thread is getting kinda geeky now. Do you want me to call my ol' geometry teacher to get us the correct angle and then I'll call my calculus teacher to work out a formula for Martin's driveway. | ||
| Ricky Nardis (Ttforcefed)
Junior Member Username: Ttforcefed Post Number: 53 Registered: 4-2001 |
bill, you hit the nail on the head! I could probably ski down it! :-) | ||
| Bill Sawyer (Wsawyer)
Member Username: Wsawyer Post Number: 423 Registered: 2-2002 |
That isn't a driveway, it's a ski slope... | ||
| Ricky Nardis (Ttforcefed)
Junior Member Username: Ttforcefed Post Number: 52 Registered: 4-2001 |
that's assuming we are talking about a straight line...most driveways have some curve to them, so over time and space the slope varies from point to point | ||
| Tim N (Timn88)
Intermediate Member Username: Timn88 Post Number: 1417 Registered: 6-2001 |
45 degrees is 45 degrees, no matter how long of a distance its over. | ||
| Jim Schad (Jim_schad)
Junior Member Username: Jim_schad Post Number: 79 Registered: 7-2002 |
jeez, do you live on Mt. Ranier? | ||
| Kevin Marcus (Rumordude)
New member Username: Rumordude Post Number: 37 Registered: 9-2001 |
hey martin, i liked your picture so i decided to use it to help clarify what i mean.  hell, I've gone over 40 degree slopes in my cars, but they are only inches high. I usually just call them speedbumps though. | ||
| Ricky Nardis (Ttforcefed)
New member Username: Ttforcefed Post Number: 47 Registered: 4-2001 |
the driveway is flat at the beginnig and runs about 70 ft long, no problems getting the car out at the top, which is closer to 40% degrees than it is to 30%. | ||
| Jim Schad (Jim_schad)
Junior Member Username: Jim_schad Post Number: 71 Registered: 7-2002 |
psp is right I think. A 40% driveway would be like living in the hollywood hills with your driveway exiting off you deck overlooking LA. I say put an eye bolt on the front bumper and just winch it up like a boat. | ||
| steve (Honky)
New member Username: Honky Post Number: 15 Registered: 5-2002 |
I had that happen to me after only having the car for 2 weeks :-( had to have a fibre glass job and respray for $400. If you just "try it" as someone suggested, then I would get someone to act as a spotter - it's not a very nice feeling listening to the front scape up along the ground... ouch...even the memory is painful. | ||
| Martin (Miami348ts)
Advanced Member Username: Miami348ts Post Number: 2648 Registered: 5-2001 |
and 18� is pretty bad itself. | ||
| Patrick S. Perry (Psp1)
Junior Member Username: Psp1 Post Number: 103 Registered: 3-2001 |
It seems more likely it's a 40% slope - equal to approximately 18 degrees. If I remember correctly, slope in % is measured as the ratio of rise/run, so that a 45 degree slope would be a 100% slope. | ||
| Peter K. (Bubba)
Junior Member Username: Bubba Post Number: 134 Registered: 5-2002 |
That looks pretty damn steep. It almost looks as if the bumper will hit the driveway before the front wheels even begin the climb. | ||
| Martin (Miami348ts)
Advanced Member Username: Miami348ts Post Number: 2641 Registered: 5-2001 |
This is 40� for your better understanding:  | ||
| Martin (Miami348ts)
Advanced Member Username: Miami348ts Post Number: 2640 Registered: 5-2001 |
Kevin it does not matter if it is over 100 feet or 2 feet. At the entrance if it is 40� it is not enough for a regular car to enter. | ||
| Martin (Miami348ts)
Advanced Member Username: Miami348ts Post Number: 2639 Registered: 5-2001 |
40� is impossible for a driveway. You need a Hummer to get in there. | ||
| Kevin Marcus (Rumordude)
New member Username: Rumordude Post Number: 36 Registered: 9-2001 |
40 degrees gradually over 100 ft is different from 40 degrees abruptly over 15 ft. what's the rate of change of the slope? be sure to go in/out at a 30-45 degree angle. | ||
| Ben Cannon (Artherd)
Junior Member Username: Artherd Post Number: 56 Registered: 6-2002 |
No chance most likely, if that measurment is accurate. Time to find a backhoe Best! Ben. | ||
| Ricky Nardis (Ttforcefed)
New member Username: Ttforcefed Post Number: 41 Registered: 4-2001 |
looks like i wil have to move! thnx for the responses | ||
| Mitch Alsup (Mitch_alsup)
Junior Member Username: Mitch_alsup Post Number: 107 Registered: 4-2002 |
I have a direvway with about 25 degrees of angle. I have to be exceedingly careful at the top (underbody scrape) and I had to make a couple of boards to increase nose clearance when I finally inch down to the garage. 40 degrees--no chance to avoid scratching. | ||
| Warren L. (Warren)
Junior Member Username: Warren Post Number: 67 Registered: 2-2002 |
The car will definitely scrape. You will have to do something with your driveway | ||
| Ricky Nardis (Ttforcefed)
New member Username: Ttforcefed Post Number: 34 Registered: 4-2001 |
the bottom of the driveway isn't bad at all, alot like a ramp....it's getting out at the top fromt first that worries me because the all the weight will be in the back of the car...we'll see tomorrow! keeping my fingers crossed! | ||
| Mark Eberhardt (Me_k)
Junior Member Username: Me_k Post Number: 92 Registered: 5-2002 |
I have to angle the approach at a lot of places I take the car. If it's your own drive way I would have to believe you will be able to find a way in or rework the bottom so there is a way in. Buy the 355 and get a look out for the first attempt in. I just bought a different house, and like Steve I trained the realtor to look at driveways and garages. | ||
| Steve Magnusson (91tr)
Member Username: 91tr Post Number: 948 Registered: 1-2001 |
I think you need to do an actual test. "Angling" the approach helps, but if the transition is too abrupt you could high-center on the bottom of the chassis. | ||
| Ricky Nardis (Ttforcefed)
New member Username: Ttforcefed Post Number: 32 Registered: 4-2001 |
so what do you think, will i destroy the underbody? | ||
| Steve Magnusson (91tr)
Member Username: 91tr Post Number: 947 Registered: 1-2001 |
I've had this problem the other way around -- our Realtor learned very quickly that the first requirement was an F compatible driveway/garage . | ||
| Ricky Nardis (Ttforcefed)
New member Username: Ttforcefed Post Number: 31 Registered: 4-2001 |
In the excitement of searching for a 355 i forgot to ask something i should have inquired about at the start: i have a long driveway that slopes 40 degrees, maybe more at the top....I�m thinking i will have some clearence issues getting the car out of the driveway and I fear I will ruin the underbody (my stock M3 makes it with less than 2 inches of room once the front wheels make it over)....have any of you had any experience getting on top of some 35-45 degree slopes? Am i out of luck? |