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Sal Ant (Ny308gtb)
New member Username: Ny308gtb
Post Number: 5 Registered: 8-2002
| Posted on Saturday, September 07, 2002 - 10:51 pm: | |
In a 77 308GTB am getting the wierd sensation of having to push the clutch pedal further down to the floor before the engine falls into neutral and I am able to shift. The clutch grabs fine with plenty of free play (maybe too much). Can I adjust to fix or is this something else. I have a new clutch and all the pieces but am not convinced I have to change it b/c it is not slipping. |
Martin (Miami348ts)
Advanced Member Username: Miami348ts
Post Number: 2664 Registered: 5-2001
| Posted on Saturday, August 24, 2002 - 3:26 am: | |
Nika, baby will you come down to the Miami GP in first week of Oct? ALMS, CART and something else. Also likely a parade lap with Ferraris  |
Nika (Racernika)
Member Username: Racernika
Post Number: 672 Registered: 12-2001
| Posted on Friday, August 23, 2002 - 11:38 pm: | |
I'll be at Laguna Seca OR I may work a ride and Drive - have to think abiut getting a job soon and well - to get PAID to drive great cars........that's great! I brought the car up to ALMS at Mosport just last week |
J. Grande (Jay)
Member Username: Jay
Post Number: 522 Registered: 10-2001
| Posted on Thursday, August 22, 2002 - 2:12 pm: | |
Make that Sept 17th  |
J. Grande (Jay)
Member Username: Jay
Post Number: 521 Registered: 10-2001
| Posted on Wednesday, August 21, 2002 - 11:14 pm: | |
BTW September 16th is Ferrari track day at Mosport, you coming? |
J. Grande (Jay)
Member Username: Jay
Post Number: 520 Registered: 10-2001
| Posted on Wednesday, August 21, 2002 - 11:13 pm: | |
Nika, I need a new clutch also (Because I never had one to begin with). If you can't adjust yours and you do end up having to get one, maybe we can get a deal getting them together. Rocco can get the original AP clutch from a Canadian supplier. email me and let me know. I've got the money burning a hole in my pocket!! |
Nika (Racernika)
Member Username: Racernika
Post Number: 669 Registered: 12-2001
| Posted on Wednesday, August 21, 2002 - 9:00 am: | |
Thanks Guys - appreciate it. It's funny how we notice such small changes on our cars - I will certainly have it checked out!!!
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Greg Rodgers (Joechristmas)
Member Username: Joechristmas
Post Number: 435 Registered: 3-2001
| Posted on Wednesday, August 21, 2002 - 5:15 am: | |
I am not sure if I read this wrong but the 308 QVs I thought were all cable driven not hydraulic. The adjustment on my QV was at the rear near the bellhousing. It has locking nuts on either side and an adjustment nut in the middle. When I first purchased my QV the pedal was extremely high and I figured it probably needed a new clutch. I adj. it and found that I have plenty of clutch left. I think I may have some info on it if you are interested Nika. I would check this first. |
magoo (Magoo)
Advanced Member Username: Magoo
Post Number: 3058 Registered: 2-2001
| Posted on Wednesday, August 21, 2002 - 1:12 am: | |
Nika, Stop thinking flywheel. Do as Ed suggests and have the clutch adjusted first. If no correction then look in to having the pressure plate and disc replaced and check out the flywheel at that time which probably isn't bad unless the car has been dogged and I doubt that. |
billy bob (Fatbillybob)
New member Username: Fatbillybob
Post Number: 15 Registered: 8-2002
| Posted on Wednesday, August 21, 2002 - 12:54 am: | |
If you clutch starts to engage and grab about 3/4 to 1 inch off the floor the adjustment is correct. The 308s have a small hole in the bellhouse and the clutch lever that fits a small drill. You line these up and you are set. The QV's that use a hydralic system are preset by the throw of the hydralic cylinder and basically never fail unless the piston fails |
James H. (Jamesh)
Junior Member Username: Jamesh
Post Number: 138 Registered: 5-2001
| Posted on Tuesday, August 20, 2002 - 10:38 am: | |
Nika, George Evans seems to have the best price for clutch, pressure plate, throw out bearing and pilot bearing for a meager 300.00. |
Nika (Racernika)
Member Username: Racernika
Post Number: 668 Registered: 12-2001
| Posted on Tuesday, August 20, 2002 - 10:20 am: | |
Babe??? hmmmmmmmm Normally I'm VERY picky about resurfacing flywheels - it threw the geometrics off the AWD Talon I had and made it shift notchy. But I've had fellow Ferrari owners say the Flywheel on 308s is much better and this shouldn't happen. |
Martin (Miami348ts)
Advanced Member Username: Miami348ts
Post Number: 2637 Registered: 5-2001
| Posted on Tuesday, August 20, 2002 - 7:36 am: | |
I would bring it to the mechanic as well. Just to be on the safe side. The flywheel and clutch on the 308 is a fairly inexpensive item compared to the 348/355 clutches and flywheels. The damn flywheel in the 348 oosts $ 3000 just for the part. I had my clutch recently resurfaced instead of replaced and it works fine. Always takes a few miles to get used to the new feel of the clutch. Get it checked babe! |
Mitchell Minh Le (Yelcab1)
Member Username: Yelcab1
Post Number: 302 Registered: 11-2001
| Posted on Monday, August 19, 2002 - 11:55 pm: | |
It can be adjusted in about 30 minutes. If your components are way off the wear limits, then ... $600 for a flywheel, $400 for a clutch kit, and about $500 in labor. Plus oil changes and misc of another $150-$200. |
John J Stecher (Jjstecher)
Member Username: Jjstecher
Post Number: 268 Registered: 1-2002
| Posted on Monday, August 19, 2002 - 11:15 pm: | |
Nika, I just went through what you are going through now with your clutch. In my 348 I noticed that the clutch grab point was at the top of the pedal and within two weeks and 500 miles I started to feel the clutch slip under hard accelleration, within 50 miles after that it slipped at any RPM above 3K. I wouldnt wait for it to start slipping as you can warp your flywheel and then have to fork out a boat load more money to replace it as well. I am not that familiar with the 308 clutch and the effort it takes to replace it but I would do a little preventative maintanence now instead of possibly doing more damage down the road. |
Nika (Racernika)
Member Username: Racernika
Post Number: 667 Registered: 12-2001
| Posted on Monday, August 19, 2002 - 10:01 pm: | |
Yes Edward - a 1985 308 GTS - 31,000km......it just caught me...I am very sensitive to car changes......not slipping but I am watching with eagle eyes the top gears..... thank you Art and Edward - very much appreciated |
Edward Gault (Irfgt)
Intermediate Member Username: Irfgt
Post Number: 1833 Registered: 2-2001
| Posted on Monday, August 19, 2002 - 9:04 pm: | |
If we are working on a 308, It can and should be adjusted. |
arthur chambers (Art355)
Member Username: Art355
Post Number: 602 Registered: 6-2001
| Posted on Monday, August 19, 2002 - 8:44 pm: | |
I'd wait for it to start slipping. I'd also check around, there are people who rebuild those clutchs for a number far less than what you'd paid for an original clutch. Given the mileage, i.e., low, this is the better way to go. My guess is, no more burn-outs for you, until you get this fixed. Art |
Nika (Racernika)
Member Username: Racernika
Post Number: 666 Registered: 12-2001
| Posted on Monday, August 19, 2002 - 8:37 pm: | |
I hear there really isn't much adjustment for it - not being a 1985 car. (sigh) Should I go right away or in a few KM's |
arthur chambers (Art355)
Member Username: Art355
Post Number: 600 Registered: 6-2001
| Posted on Monday, August 19, 2002 - 8:32 pm: | |
Nika: It shouldn't be that high. It's either worn out, or needs adjustment. This is a case where only your mechanic will know. Take it in for adjustment, and if he tells you there is no more, expect to start paying soon. Art |
Nika (Racernika)
Member Username: Racernika
Post Number: 665 Registered: 12-2001
| Posted on Monday, August 19, 2002 - 8:30 pm: | |
Hey guys - I am finding that the friction point for my clutch is at the top of the pedal. It isn't slipping but just seems tooooooooo close to the top for being right. Am I losing my mind? Should I be watching it now? What should I expect as a cost for clutch plate repairs? Thank you NIka www.racerchicks.com |