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Frank Parker (Parkerfe)
Intermediate Member
Username: Parkerfe
Post Number: 1262
Registered: 9-2001
| | Posted on Wednesday, August 28, 2002 - 10:33 am: | |
I like the single lug knockoffs much better than the five lug wheels. More exotic and it is just like F1 cars rather than like Nascar that also uses five lug nuts. |
Dr. George Petito (Doc18015)
Junior Member
Username: Doc18015
Post Number: 51
Registered: 12-2001
| | Posted on Wednesday, August 28, 2002 - 7:46 am: | |
Jim: There are a number of aftermarket single lug wheels available for the TR, in various sizes and widths. Try looking in Forza or a quick search on the net. I have an '87-single lug....absolutely no problems. Others on the chat like Adam will agree. The "ENZO" also has gone to the one lug look. In my opinion, its the little differences that score well with Ferrari...including the single lug. Good luck with your purchase. The TR is a very fine automobile! |
Jim Schad (Jim_schad)
Junior Member
Username: Jim_schad
Post Number: 112
Registered: 7-2002
| | Posted on Tuesday, August 27, 2002 - 10:08 am: | |
ah, I see. I had no idea they came in metric sizes. Makes sense I just never knew that. I would be very upset if I got one and then had to mess with finding specialty tires/rims etc. I think I will stick with a 5 lug 16" unless I just find a killer deal. Thanks for the help again. |
Steve Magnusson (91tr)
Member
Username: 91tr
Post Number: 989
Registered: 1-2001
| | Posted on Monday, August 26, 2002 - 4:41 pm: | |
Jim -- the TRX metric tires are just that -- metric (415mm) so they are not interchangeable with inch-series tire sizes. My '91 US TR OM shows that even the later 5-lug TRs could come with 16" or 415 wheels so I think all 4 combinations might be possible:
single-lug 415mm
single-lug 16"
5-lug 415mm
5-lug 16"
During my TR search I put a ~$5K value difference in my thinking for 16" vs 415mm and another $5K difference for 5-lug vs single lug -- JMO. |
Rijk Rietveld (Rijk365gtb4)
Junior Member
Username: Rijk365gtb4
Post Number: 51
Registered: 1-2002
| | Posted on Monday, August 26, 2002 - 4:03 pm: | |
The 88.5 did not only update the wheels, but the whole car had improvements (see buyers guide for the Testarossa in Forza). The 88.5 through 91 are the better cars to buy, after that you go to the 512 TR. |
Jim Schad (Jim_schad)
Junior Member
Username: Jim_schad
Post Number: 108
Registered: 7-2002
| | Posted on Monday, August 26, 2002 - 3:36 pm: | |
what are TRX tires? Are they 15" instead of 16"? |
Patrick S. Perry (Psp1)
Junior Member
Username: Psp1
Post Number: 104
Registered: 3-2001
| | Posted on Monday, August 26, 2002 - 3:35 pm: | |
The other consideration: I'm pretty sure that 87's use TRX tires vs 88's with 16" rims. My early 88TR has knock-offs and 16" rims which at least gives you a few tire options instead of basically only one. |
Martin (Miami348ts)
Advanced Member
Username: Miami348ts
Post Number: 2671
Registered: 5-2001
| | Posted on Monday, August 26, 2002 - 3:13 pm: | |
The correct torque is the most important thing. Hard to do unless oyu have the right tools. Kind of a headack, that is why they were discontinued after a few years and complains.
I guess this is an advantage of buying a 88 1/2 model with the 5 lugs.
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Jim Schad (Jim_schad)
Junior Member
Username: Jim_schad
Post Number: 107
Registered: 7-2002
| | Posted on Monday, August 26, 2002 - 2:59 pm: | |
alright, I am learning. Thanks. The reason I ask is I found a 88.5 tr with 22K miles and 87 TR with 11K miles, but they have the different wheels so I wondered if that would come back to bite me. I had never really considered the difference that much. Thanks again. |
Steve Magnusson (91tr)
Member
Username: 91tr
Post Number: 988
Registered: 1-2001
| | Posted on Monday, August 26, 2002 - 2:53 pm: | |
I don't think there's any extra locking device on the TR single-lug nut (which is why being able to torque them correctly, and checking them often, is a must). The wheel-to-hub connection is a spline design to transmit the torque -- anybody got a jpeg to post? |
Jim Schad (Jim_schad)
Junior Member
Username: Jim_schad
Post Number: 106
Registered: 7-2002
| | Posted on Monday, August 26, 2002 - 2:44 pm: | |
Oh, I see. yes, I have seen the center caps covering the lugs so don't know what is under there. Didn't know I could buy aftermarket knockoff wheels. I have zero experience with these. What holds the wheel in place? Does it have bare studs or what? You put the wheel on, screw down the single bolt and put in a cotter pin or something? |
Steve Magnusson (91tr)
Member
Username: 91tr
Post Number: 987
Registered: 1-2001
| | Posted on Monday, August 26, 2002 - 2:41 pm: | |
No, not necessarily -- there are also some aftermarket single-lug TR wheels available (I can't recall the company/companies, but their ads are always in FORZA). I was just trying to point out that 5-lug TRs can appear as a single-lug design (but actually aren't). |
Jim Schad (Jim_schad)
Junior Member
Username: Jim_schad
Post Number: 105
Registered: 7-2002
| | Posted on Monday, August 26, 2002 - 2:34 pm: | |
So are you saying if I want to buy some fancy new speedline wheels I better buy a 5 lug TR? |
Steve Magnusson (91tr)
Member
Username: 91tr
Post Number: 986
Registered: 1-2001
| | Posted on Monday, August 26, 2002 - 2:23 pm: | |
Jim -- I know the '88 US model year as the transition -- early = knock-off, later = 5-lug (remember the whole world does not use the US model year designation). The two designs are so different (spindles, A-arms, etc.) that it doesn't make $ sense to try to convert between the two. Sometimes an aftermarket 5-lug wheel will have a faux single-lug cover over the 5 bolt heads on a later TR (which adds to the confusion). |
Jim Schad (Jim_schad)
Junior Member
Username: Jim_schad
Post Number: 104
Registered: 7-2002
| | Posted on Monday, August 26, 2002 - 2:07 pm: | |
May be a dumb question, but on the TR's I see the old knockoff looking caps on the 84-87 cars. On the 88-91 I see 5 lugs. Question...if I buy an older model with knockoff type can I buy aftermarket wheels with 5 lugs or do you have to change the spindles? I am just not sure what is actually under that knockoff cap...5 lugs or 1 bigun'.
Also, I have seen 87's with 5 lug and knockoff...what's the deal? |