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J.D. Smythe (Jeff)
New member
Username: Jeff
Post Number: 47
Registered: 2-2001
| | Posted on Thursday, August 29, 2002 - 5:25 pm: | |
Frank
You are correct. My dealer confirmed that the F1 is causing too much clutch slip which leads to premature clutch wear.
Willis,
My dealer wouldn't elaborate but the clutch problem on the 6 speed is not the same as the F1. |
Frank Parker (Parkerfe)
Intermediate Member
Username: Parkerfe
Post Number: 1277
Registered: 9-2001
| | Posted on Thursday, August 29, 2002 - 4:10 pm: | |
I too have heard that both the Ferrari F1 and BMW SMG gearboxs eat clutches. And to me it makes sense. The system is made to slip the clutch is the auto mode to smooth out the shifts. Even in the sport modes it has to slip the clutch some which causes wear. Stick with the manual tranny.The shift gates look better too IMHO. |
Willis Huang (Willis360)
Member
Username: Willis360
Post Number: 904
Registered: 8-2001
| | Posted on Thursday, August 29, 2002 - 11:00 am: | |
Didn't someone said there's a problem with the manual shifting cars? A bearing or something needed to be replaced. Perhaps it's the same part in the F1 cars? Please ask that dealer and see if the two problems are connected, Jeff. |
J.D. Smythe (Jeff)
New member
Username: Jeff
Post Number: 46
Registered: 2-2001
| | Posted on Thursday, August 29, 2002 - 10:55 am: | |
Willis
You are correct this topic has been discussed before. But I believe most owners were under the impression that the F1 was better for the clutch because everything was "computerized". This is the first time I have heard from a dealer that there is a problem with the F1 in regards to clutch wear. The reason why Ferrari will not cover this under warrarnty is because they cannot pinpoint the exact part that is causing the problem. They just know it has something to do with the F1. They probably don't want to spend the time or money trouble shooting the problem or they figure the next version of the F1 will solve the problem.
Your instrument panel is a different situation. They know the exact problem and it is only on "one" car not "thousands" as in the case of the F1.
BTW, I too have an F1 and just find it discerning that this potential problem has/will exist and there is not much I can do about it. All in all I still would buy the F1 again. |
Willis Huang (Willis360)
Member
Username: Willis360
Post Number: 903
Registered: 8-2001
| | Posted on Thursday, August 29, 2002 - 10:28 am: | |
You're not wrong, Ron. |
Ron Thomas (Ronsupercar)
Member
Username: Ronsupercar
Post Number: 294
Registered: 5-2002
| | Posted on Thursday, August 29, 2002 - 10:25 am: | |
Jeff,
I've heard that they tend to be a bit jerky in normal driving conditions in the hands of a new driver..The F1 works very well for high speed and track use..
Willis, correct me if I'm wrong... |
Willis Huang (Willis360)
Member
Username: Willis360
Post Number: 901
Registered: 8-2001
| | Posted on Thursday, August 29, 2002 - 10:01 am: | |
Do a search on 360 F1 or F1 transmission. This topic has been debated to death on several old threads.
The bottom line is. For me, after nearly 12,000 miles, I have not noticed any clutch problems.
I don't see why Ferrari would refuse to cover a $1,200 item. Recently, I had to have my instrument panel and main computer replaced (long story). That was as $4,000+ item covered under warranty. |
J.D. Smythe (Jeff)
New member
Username: Jeff
Post Number: 45
Registered: 2-2001
| | Posted on Thursday, August 29, 2002 - 9:39 am: | |
My dealer (who does not want to be named) told me that the F1 on the 360 cars is causing premature clutch wear. This has been happening on all 360 F1's (not 355 F1)since the 1999 model. Ferrari Spa is aware of the problem but refuses to acknowledge it because they don't want to cover clutch problems under warranty. I don't know what "premature wear" relates to in mileage. The solution has been to repair the clutch ($1200 est) at the owner's cost.
Has anyone noticed premature clutch wear? |