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Dave (Maranelloman)
Member
Username: Maranelloman
Post Number: 342
Registered: 1-2002
| | Posted on Monday, September 02, 2002 - 9:04 am: | |
Geeeez, I've GOT to remember to proof my messages before posting them! |
Scott A. B. Collins (Scott)
Junior Member
Username: Scott
Post Number: 71
Registered: 6-2001
| | Posted on Sunday, September 01, 2002 - 9:11 pm: | |
I had a paint blister on the fender of my 360 repainted. I absolutely can't detect where this was done, in spite of having visited the car in the shop and having seen the area primered.
Have someone else do it. |
Dave (Maranelloman)
Member
Username: Maranelloman
Post Number: 341
Registered: 1-2002
| | Posted on Sunday, September 01, 2002 - 7:44 pm: | |
Peter, FYIm Ferrari of Houston, the sister store to FOD, has a brand-new Ferrari factory paint shop. I believe it is the only factory-spec one in a large radius. I have only used it once--when I repinted the front end of my 550 due to road gravel chips, etc this past January--and I was VERY satisfies.
You might want to tell the FOD folks about your poor experience with their recommended shop, and have them trailer your car to Houston to get it done RIGHT. |
Nick Berry (Nickb)
New member
Username: Nickb
Post Number: 5
Registered: 8-2002
| | Posted on Sunday, September 01, 2002 - 4:06 pm: | |
I had a similar problem. To cover license plate holes my bumber had to be remove and repainted. My 360 Spider is Ferrari Light Yellow (F.L.Y.)
The shop was recommended by my Ferrari dealership. They did a nice job in covering the holes but the paint was slightly off from the rest of the car. I took it back to them and on their second try the color is perfect.
The shop has a computer program to match the colors. I believe PPG the present supplier of paint used by Ferrari sells the program.
I would take it back. But before you do let your dealership look at it and ask them for their opinion regarding the match. If they agree with you I can assure you that the shop that did the first job will get it right the second time especially if they want future referrals from the dealership. |
Hans E. Hansen (4re_gt4)
Junior Member
Username: 4re_gt4
Post Number: 135
Registered: 4-2002
| | Posted on Sunday, September 01, 2002 - 3:51 pm: | |
Occasionally so called "factory pack" paints are available for late model cars. These are *supposed* to be exact matches, but as any body shop will tell you, they usually have to do slight adjustments to get it right. Do what used car lots do to avoid this situation: Two-tone it! (JUST KIDDING) |
Robert Davis (H2oquick)
Junior Member
Username: H2oquick
Post Number: 165
Registered: 8-2001
| | Posted on Sunday, September 01, 2002 - 3:06 pm: | |
If you were in Florida I could match it for you. This is what I do for a living and have better than 20 years shooting colors. Chris is right on variations of colors it is usually variations of the same color which can be chart matched. If the mishap is in a area very obvious a color blend will be recommended. Bumper covers usually can be painted alone and color variations (since most covers do not match exactly anyways)are not quite as noticeable as they would be as in a door or panel damage. Pearls usually take a little more, because most are 3 stage the base sometimes needs to be tinted to get the correct color match. Just remember when you blend a panel, it is a deception to the eye where the color starts and ends. Someone with enough paint knowhow should be able to do a very presentable job without a noticeable difference in color variation. |
Chris Richardson (Boozy)
Junior Member
Username: Boozy
Post Number: 205
Registered: 11-2001
| | Posted on Sunday, September 01, 2002 - 1:48 pm: | |
It is nearly impossible to exactly match a paint color especially if it is a metallic, pearl, or combination of both. Even if you have paint code ### and match it exactly and mix it properly, the factory color will differ from day to day on the assembly line. Slight color variations result from settling in their large vats of paint. You can also get a visible difference from the clear. Different clear can actually cure to a slightly different color especially since the factory tends to use about 1/2mil of clear and a body shop will tend to use about 2mils. The only way to make sure any small differences in color are not apparent is to paint the whole side. Usually you can blend the color and clear in a strategic area to make the difference indeterminable. Especially on a Ferrari the body shop should not have sent a car out the door without doing the necessary blends to make it at least as good as new. In my experience if they couldn't do it right the first time giving them a second try will make things worse. The only person I know who does perfect paint work is about 1000 miles from you in Manassas, VA and it takes him quite a while to complete a job but his work is second to none.
Autocrafters
Robert Appel
703-335-9646
Good Luck |
Craig Dewey (Craigfl)
Member
Username: Craigfl
Post Number: 441
Registered: 1-2001
| | Posted on Sunday, September 01, 2002 - 1:15 pm: | |
I'm not a paint expert but I question how some of the paint match systems actually work. I understand the theory but reality is that some mixes take only 1 or 2 drops of a pigment in a gallon so you would have to have that system calibrated as well as clean all the time or your color could be off. Even with these systems it would require careful prep and testing to be sure before the final spray. |
Frank Parker (Parkerfe)
Intermediate Member
Username: Parkerfe
Post Number: 1286
Registered: 9-2001
| | Posted on Sunday, September 01, 2002 - 12:44 pm: | |
Try Bo Pirkle of Pirkle Auto Body in Tucker, Georgia. He is the BEST. He has Ferraris shipped there from all over the world. |
magoo (Magoo)
Advanced Member
Username: Magoo
Post Number: 3085
Registered: 2-2001
| | Posted on Sunday, September 01, 2002 - 11:34 am: | |
If your car is that new, The orig. pt. code should have matched up with no problem. sounds like the paint jobber messed up on the mix. I would take it back and have them do it again. |
Henryk (Henryk)
Junior Member
Username: Henryk
Post Number: 224
Registered: 8-2001
| | Posted on Sunday, September 01, 2002 - 11:29 am: | |
Peter: Some of the paint shops have a special "camera" that should be able to match your paint......this is what I am told. They put it up to a flat area and record the paint code, or something. You may want to campare that with the Ferrari code to see if they match.
Good luck! |
Peter Allen Dysert II (Peterd)
New member
Username: Peterd
Post Number: 2
Registered: 9-2002
| | Posted on Sunday, September 01, 2002 - 11:19 am: | |
My 2 week old Fly Yellow 360 Modena received a scrape, no real body damage, and the local body shop recommended by my Ferrari dealer has done a lousy job matching the paint color on essentially a new car. I would like a suggestion for someone I could send my car to. Ideally someone in Texas but at this stage I will transport it to someone people say is the best if that's what is required. After waiting 2.5 years to get this car and have this happen and then get a lousy outcome, you could say I am upset. I would appreciate a referral to someone who does great work. I live in Dallas.
Thanks,
Pete |