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James Christian (Jimc)
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Posted on Thursday, September 19, 2002 - 11:03 pm:   

Scott (jscott),

Go out in your garage, take that K&N back out of the box, and put it in your car!

Enjoy...

JC
Ernesto (T88power)
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Posted on Thursday, September 19, 2002 - 10:59 pm:   

For every "skilled, knowledgeable and experienced automotive technician" that recommends one thing, I'll find you three that recommend the complete opposite. This is all opinion. I, and many friends, have been using K&N for over ten years, with no problems whatsoever.

Ernesto
Barry Wolinsky (308gtb)
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Posted on Thursday, September 19, 2002 - 6:47 pm:   

I've learned, in my career, to defer matters ouside my area of expertise to other specialists. And so I chose not to replace my UFI air filter with the K&N filter.

You can learn a lot from the skilled, knowledgeable and experienced automotive technicians in this forum.
j scott leonard (Jscott)
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Posted on Thursday, September 19, 2002 - 6:21 pm:   

Well, I for one learned a lot and I appreciate it! Thanks for the discussion however animated it may have been.
Edward Gault (Irfgt)
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Posted on Thursday, September 19, 2002 - 5:37 pm:   

People, this is exactly my point. The cars that I repair are daily drivers and there are definately some problems with using a performance filter that uses oil and allows it to pass through to the intake. I have seen many Mass Airflow meters either ruined or damaged by debris that passes through these filters. Just because you don't have a Mass Airflow Sensor does not mean that the crud does not get inside your engine. To me it just tells me that it is getting in there where it should not be. I could care less whether anyone uses one of these filters or not. It does not effect me in any way. This is my opinion and the evidence is there and I have seen it. If your car needs more power and the risk is worth the price then go for it. My car has a paper filter in it. End of my comments.
Ernesto (T88power)
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Posted on Thursday, September 19, 2002 - 4:58 pm:   

For once I agree with Frank! The end of the world must be near!

Ernesto
Frank Parker (Parkerfe)
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Posted on Thursday, September 19, 2002 - 4:57 pm:   

Come on guys, you would think someone had called their 360 a Dino ! I think it is true that a K&N filter may let more dirt in an engine than a stock paper type filter. And for your daily driver that may be important. But, for most of the Ferraris out there that are driven only a few thousand miles a year on paved roads I doubt there is much risk to the engine by using a K&N. And, while you get a better intake sound I doubt you get any noticable HP gain . I have used K&N filters on all of my cars and motorcycles for years with no problems until my 2000 M5. I had to remove them it that car as it caused problems with the air sensors which caused my check engine light to come on. Once I removed the K&Ns, the problem disappeared. I still have a K&N in my 348, my wife's Honda Odyessey,my Harley Fatboy and my golf cart. I would not use them though if I planned to drive on a lot of dirt roads or lived in a dusty environment. Just my $0.02 worth.
Ernesto (T88power)
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Posted on Thursday, September 19, 2002 - 4:41 pm:   

I don't know, you tell us!

Ernesto
Edward Gault (Irfgt)
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Posted on Thursday, September 19, 2002 - 4:10 pm:   

Cancer does not show up immediately. How did all the children find this site?
Todd Gieger (Todd328gts)
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Posted on Thursday, September 19, 2002 - 3:16 pm:   

So take that! Hee Hee
Ernesto (T88power)
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Posted on Thursday, September 19, 2002 - 11:09 am:   

Install the KN filter.. you'll be fine. I have used them for years with no problems, and they wouldn't sell so many if they were breaking engines. Change your oil every 3,000 miles and everything will be ok.

Ernesto
Edward Gault (Irfgt)
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Posted on Thursday, September 19, 2002 - 10:57 am:   

In my opinion your approach is worse than mine. Some people just do not understand logic and therefore you must use a different approach. Some don't understand any way.
j scott leonard (Jscott)
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Posted on Thursday, September 19, 2002 - 10:51 am:   

I'm sold, I was going to install a K&N but won't now! Not worth the risk or the wrath of E.G.
Todd Gieger (Todd328gts)
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Posted on Thursday, September 19, 2002 - 9:35 am:   

With all due respect, it is a crying shame...his nasty approach. Then again, everyone IS different...and hey, it doesn't make you a bad person.

DUH! DUH! DUH!

LOL

TTG
bruce wellington (Bws88tr)
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Posted on Thursday, September 19, 2002 - 6:02 am:   

todd
i have had a run in with mr gault several months ago..yes he is a s.o.b. and has an animalistic approach to answer questions and give answers,but the man knows his s#$%it, and always willing to give his honest answers whether their sugar coated or not..thats the nature of the beast

regards my friend,

bruce
Todd Gieger (Todd328gts)
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Posted on Thursday, September 19, 2002 - 12:18 am:   

Exactly!?
Oh well...I give up :-)

Lots of Love,

TTG
Edward Gault (Irfgt)
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Posted on Wednesday, September 18, 2002 - 9:46 pm:   

I am not angry. I am the happiest SOB in the world. I am just trying to make some of you people think for a few minutes. You will spend hundreds to put a bra on the front of your car so it won't get nicked. You will argue over where to park your car where it will not be damaged. You will debate for weeks over the best oil filter, and then you will go out and buy the air filter that will allow the most dirt into your engine and pay big bucks for it. DUH! DUH! DUH!
Todd Gieger (Todd328gts)
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Posted on Wednesday, September 18, 2002 - 9:13 pm:   

I sincerely do appreciate the expertise given...in fact hats off to you Ed and I am not too big of a man to say, this guy REALLY knows his stuff. Yet, stuff like "While you are at it why not cut out half of the filtering material in your oil filters for even more power"...and the many other negative comments just isn't necessary and almost masks your real value to people like me that are not even near as knowledgeable as you. Please don't take my suggestion as condescending or confrontational b/c I am neither of the two...I am simply suggesting that you try not to be so angry...life's too short to be name calling etc...If this upset you in anyway..it sincerely was not my intention...In fact, I always look forward to reading your replies b/c of your expertise. Anyway, all the best to you and yours.

Kind regards,

TTG
Jack (Gilles27)
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Posted on Wednesday, September 18, 2002 - 8:15 pm:   

I think my "inner voice" agrees with what Ed has suggested. It isn't as if a K&N is going to turn my 328 into an Enzo. For what it's worth, I like the whistle. Kind of unique.
Edward Gault (Irfgt)
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Posted on Wednesday, September 18, 2002 - 5:21 pm:   

Why is it that when someone gets the truth rather than the the answer that they want, they get pissy? Do a little research and you will find my answers CORRECT! I have not been doing this successfully for over 30 years for nothing!
Todd Gieger (Todd328gts)
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Posted on Wednesday, September 18, 2002 - 9:30 am:   

Whatever Ed
Edward Gault (Irfgt)
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Posted on Wednesday, September 18, 2002 - 9:00 am:   

All cars will not make the whistle sound. Is is caused by the air going around the throttle plate. It usually is muffled by the original efficient filtering paper air filter. If you go outside and look at your other transportation you will probably see a maze of plastic plumbing and chambers before the air reaches the throttle. This is to silence the air induction noise. Not everyone wants to hear the sounds that an engine makes thus the additional plumbing.
Todd Gieger (Todd328gts)
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Posted on Wednesday, September 18, 2002 - 8:43 am:   

I really didn't notice the whistle...probably because the aftermarket exhaust (ANSA w/out cats) is masking the sound? I only went for a quick spin though. I also cranked the cover down pretty hard...I'm still wondering if it's too tight...it hard to tell when you're using a small single Allen wrench
Thoughts?
david handa (Davehanda)
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Posted on Wednesday, September 18, 2002 - 12:47 am:   

Well the whistle noise is not from the exhaust resonators either, I made some inserts from ss sheet and it did not get rid of the noise like did on my 308. So, maybe the K&N does cause the whistle, I only had my car for a week before the K&N was put in, but the mechanic had it for a month before I got it back, so I can't recall, and don't have the old filter...
david handa (Davehanda)
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Posted on Monday, September 16, 2002 - 10:03 pm:   

Well, the whistle doesn't appear to be from an airbox leak, I put blue masking tape all around the edges and it didn't stop the noise. Having had some experience with the "exhaust whistle" problem, I am going to go ahead and eliminate that possibility later in the week. I'll report back again... :-)
david handa (Davehanda)
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Posted on Monday, September 16, 2002 - 10:12 am:   

I think the problem with the whistle lies somewhere with the fit of the filter in the air box. I think there is an air leak around the edge of the box. I will mess with it later this week and see what I can find...
Rob Lay (Rob328gts)
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Posted on Monday, September 16, 2002 - 9:34 am:   

One good layman's test is to hold both up to the light. You can see through a K&N, but not a stock air filter. Dirt can see that same light.

BobD, I had significant gain in HP and also just a slight increase in torque.

I actually like the whistle sound, it does sound like a little turbo.

In other makes of cars I've heard problems with the oil on the K&N messing up the Mass Air Flow sensor.

Another positive on the K&N is that they're cheaper long term than a stock filter. Unless you have to rebuild your engine. ;)
Steve Magnusson (91tr)
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Posted on Monday, September 16, 2002 - 9:22 am:   

BobD -- You've got Ed G.'s strong opinion and for the opposite (and probably slanted) viewpoint see:
http://www.knfilters.com/facts.htm

With regard to "if these things are so great and provide more HP, why aren't they provided as standard equipment by the manufacturer?", a manufacturer usually likes to keep the initial cost of things down (maximum profit on selling price) and build-in periodic required replacement (future service revenue) so a disposable paper air filter works perfect for them. For me, the reusability of the K&N, at about the same (or lower) cost than a stock filter, is the plus side (although I do agree somewhat with Ed G. about the debris issue so I don't over-clean the K&N).
Edward Gault (Irfgt)
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Posted on Monday, September 16, 2002 - 9:09 am:   

In my experience, the low restriction air filters do not filter as well as the factory designed original equipment filters. If the miniscule power gain to is worth the risk of dirt entering your engine and you feel the trade off is worth it then go ahead but I personally would not put one of those things on my car if you gave it to me. I have seen problems caused by these filters and if your car needs some more HP I would buy one that had it.
BobD (Bobd)
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Posted on Monday, September 16, 2002 - 8:52 am:   

My 328 has a stock filter and also has a slight whistle at 3-4K. A guy once doing the state inspection thought the whistle came from the turbo. Nope.

Since we're on the K&N subject, if these things are so great and provide more HP, why aren't they provided as standard equipment by the manufacturer? Any downside to these things??? Does hp gain = torque loss??? It just seems too simple.
bruce wellington (Bws88tr)
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Posted on Monday, September 16, 2002 - 8:23 am:   

YEA TOM

YOU ARE A GOOD GUY :-)

BRUCE
TomD (Tifosi)
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Posted on Monday, September 16, 2002 - 8:18 am:   

just tighten it down snug. check it after a few weeks and retighten if needed - no sarcasm here :-)
bruce wellington (Bws88tr)
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Posted on Monday, September 16, 2002 - 8:16 am:   

SEE TODD,

ALOT OF SARCASISM HERE..

HAVE A GOOD DAY..

BRUCE
Todd Gieger (Todd328gts)
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Posted on Monday, September 16, 2002 - 8:10 am:   

Yeah really Lawrence, what's up with that? All I did was ask a simple question...of which was not answered.
Let's try this again...does anyone know how hard/soft the air box filter cover needs to be tightened down?

Thanks
Lawrence Coppari (Lawrence)
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Posted on Monday, September 16, 2002 - 6:51 am:   

Are we detecting a touch of sarcasm here?
Edward Gault (Irfgt)
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Posted on Sunday, September 15, 2002 - 9:59 pm:   

The whistle sound you hear is the air going around the throttle plate. Since you no longer have as much filtering media keeping dirt out of your engine you can now hear this annoying sound. While you are at it why not cut out half of the filtering material in your oil filters for even more power.
Rob Lay (Rob328gts)
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Posted on Sunday, September 15, 2002 - 9:19 pm:   

I know the old stock filter for me didn't whistle.
david handa (Davehanda)
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Posted on Sunday, September 15, 2002 - 8:55 pm:   

Not sure how tight, but snug should do it (mine was installed by mechanic doing the major). BTW, Rob and Steve M., I DO notice a little whistle noise from around 3k to 4k rpms. Strange, don't remember it before, and a forgot to ask to save the old filter to compare with...
Todd Gieger (Todd328gts)
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Posted on Sunday, September 15, 2002 - 4:03 pm:   

Installed the K&N Air Filter...Fits perfect! Can't test it yet b/c it's raining in NJ. Anybody know how much to tighten the cover? I couldn't find any reference in the manual. I just used a little allen wrench but I don't know if it's supposed to be just snug or cranked down.

Thanks!
Todd Gieger (Todd328gts)
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Posted on Monday, September 09, 2002 - 10:02 pm:   

I don't know where the previous owner got it. I'll ask him if I can catch him...he's never home. Let me know when you get the K&N installed. I haven't reveived mine yet...I'll tell you when I do.

Later,

TTG
John L. Jordan Jr. (Up2nogd)
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Posted on Saturday, September 07, 2002 - 7:10 pm:   

Todd, You know I'm from the deep South! We don't even inspect our cars anymore!!! he he he! About 6-7 years ago they quit with the inspections because the local garage guys could not keep up?? Do you see a door opening here?? I'm thinking test pipes and then the TUBI!! Hey, where did you get your test pipes -- I think K&N makes one for the 328??

Johnny
Andr� Ferreira da Costa (Oporto328)
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Posted on Friday, September 06, 2002 - 9:32 pm:   

Just would like to say where I bought my exhaust system. At first I wanted a Tubi because everybody (specially here in Ferrari shop) said it was great sound. I've never really heard it in a 328. But they've showed me and revved a 512tr and a 355 and it was awesome. What a sound! Just like F1! But then, there was the price! Very expensive for me.
So I made a research on the net And bought it at www.stainlessexhaust.com. It's in England. And it is very good. Specially in tunnels!! The whole system with manifolds was cheaper than the single tubi rear box.
Neverthless, tubi is really something. The problem is the price.
John A (Jarends)
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Posted on Friday, September 06, 2002 - 6:40 am:   

Good morning Todd. I need that buddy of yours for the 328 (with the test pipe) and the 1978 T/A (with no cat). Where is this life saver????


John
Todd Gieger (Todd328gts)
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Posted on Friday, September 06, 2002 - 12:31 am:   

John,
My car came with it from the previous owner. My mechanic likes it and assures me it was a very good move...yet he said don't ask him to give me a NJ inspection sticker when it's due...that's OK...a buddy of mine will hook me up.
John L. Jordan Jr. (Up2nogd)
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Posted on Thursday, September 05, 2002 - 11:17 pm:   

Todd,

Ordered my K&N yesterday!! And by the way - I found the acorns and leaves as well! Wasn't very pretty?? Hey how hard was it to eliminate the cats -- is it worth it with stock exhaust??

Johnny
Todd Gieger (Todd328gts)
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Posted on Thursday, September 05, 2002 - 9:32 pm:   

Welcome aboard Andre. I think you are right in regards to the K&N filter...I'll find out for sure next week...I have a Ansa exhaust with no cats and am very pleased.

I'll catch up with you Johnny!
Andr� Ferreira da Costa (Oporto328)
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Posted on Thursday, September 05, 2002 - 8:47 pm:   

I noticed I made a mistake while regestring my name. It's not Ferrarira da Costa but Ferreira da Costa. I think i have solved the problem. Thanks
Andr� Ferrarira da Costa (Oporto328)
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Posted on Thursday, September 05, 2002 - 8:41 pm:   

Hi there! I'm new here and would like to welcome every members of this board. Specially 328 owners.
This is a great net site. Fabolous.
I have a 1987 328GTB nr72981 and have K&N filter installed. I think it's the same as 308 model because on the box says model 308. Also have stainless sport exhaust with stainless manifolds and no cats. Great sound.

Greetings
John A (Jarends)
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Posted on Thursday, September 05, 2002 - 3:12 pm:   

Todd, I'll wait for your appraisal, let me know. Bruce is going that route as well. I guess I'll just have to leave the 328 in the garage and take the TransAm to keep up with you guys.

Regards, John
Barry Wolinsky (308gtb)
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Posted on Wednesday, September 04, 2002 - 4:32 pm:   

Just a reminder:

Keep the K&N filters clean and re-oil it periodically - more frequently than K&N's recommendation - as a neglected K&N filter will let in all sorts particulate matter and will not be as protective of the engine as a standard filter at that point.

Yes, Todd, those air intakes let in all sorts of stuff. A good reason for a non-restrictive air intake screen as installed on European versions.

Barry
Todd Gieger (Todd328gts)
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Posted on Wednesday, September 04, 2002 - 4:31 pm:   

I would suggest anyone who has a 328 to check their current air filter...mine looks like it has been in the gutter with acorns, propellars, dirt, etc...
Looking forward to the new one.

Thanks again for everyone'e help.

Kind regards,

Todd
david handa (Davehanda)
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Posted on Wednesday, September 04, 2002 - 2:35 pm:   

Every car I have installed a K&N filter on, there is more induction noise...Most pronounced on hard acceleration...
John (Johno)
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Posted on Wednesday, September 04, 2002 - 2:32 pm:   

Interesting thread. I was considering a performance filter for my 328, but didn't think they would make a great deal of difference, but Rob's +10hp is an amazing figure!

Are there any other benefits? I'd love a bit more noise from the engine!!! Do you notice any difference in the induction noise volume?

Cheers, John
James H. (Jamesh)
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Posted on Tuesday, September 03, 2002 - 10:46 pm:   

Thanks for the sharing the information. I also just order a K&N filter for my 328.
Todd Gieger (Todd328gts)
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Posted on Tuesday, September 03, 2002 - 5:10 pm:   

Guess what?...Scott just called me back from www.performanceintl.com and has to order it from Europe and will take 8 weeks! So, he was cool enough to recommend www.4filters.com
They do have 33-2518 in stock, so I cancelled with www.performanceintl.com
and ordered from www.4filters.com and I will have within 5-7 days (for 37.97 plus S/H)

Hip Hip Hooray

Thanks again guys!
Todd Gieger (Todd328gts)
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Posted on Tuesday, September 03, 2002 - 4:38 pm:   

It gets better...I ordered 33-2518 from www.performanceintl.com (it was actually a few dollars less now b/c they recently lowered their price)and the guy told me he has to get it from K&N so I'll have it next week. The guy at K&N is telling me that don't have it here in the US and they have to get it from Europe...and the 33-2518 is for 83-85 308.

We'll see.
david handa (Davehanda)
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Posted on Tuesday, September 03, 2002 - 3:52 pm:   

Steve,
My car is having a major service done, so I don't know about the whistle, but will report if there is in a day or so.d
Rob Lay (Rob328gts)
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Posted on Tuesday, September 03, 2002 - 3:39 pm:   

I'll check Steve, but yes, it may not be the actual K&N, but with it there, something is whistling.
Steve Magnusson (91tr)
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Posted on Tuesday, September 03, 2002 - 3:24 pm:   

Rob -- I believe you when you say the unwanted "whistle" occurs only with the K&N installed, but I'd be more suspicious of a leak in the airbox housing(s) somewhere causing the noise. Are the perimeter areas which seal the airbox absolutely identical on the stock and K&N filters?

Dave H. -- Do you have the same problem on your 328 with the K&N?
Todd Gieger (Todd328gts)
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Posted on Tuesday, September 03, 2002 - 3:17 pm:   

Very Very Interesting!
The guy at ICP is telling me his part # is his #. Anyway,I am going to check with www.performanceintl.com

All I know is this (33-2518) better be the one that Rob has b/c I'll take the extra HP!

Good stuff guys.

Hey Johnny how's everything!

david handa (Davehanda)
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Posted on Tuesday, September 03, 2002 - 3:05 pm:   

The part number for the 328 is 33-2518. The part numbers posted on the ferrariclub.com website FAQ should be correct, we used all the published sources for them, and verified as many as possible with K&N/Ferrari owners...If you ever find an error, let the webmaster know!
Dave (Maranelloman)
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Posted on Tuesday, September 03, 2002 - 2:56 pm:   

Dang! I wish I had known about Perf. Int'l when I bought mine! But ICP was the least expenseve source I found back in Feb. when I bought the filter. Oh, well...
John A (Jarends)
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Posted on Tuesday, September 03, 2002 - 2:56 pm:   

Hey Todd, how are you

So what is the part number for the 328 K&N?

John
Rob Lay (Rob328gts)
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Posted on Tuesday, September 03, 2002 - 2:39 pm:   

David, it only happens with the K&N in there. It's not a big deal, I would rather have the HP.
david handa (Davehanda)
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Posted on Tuesday, September 03, 2002 - 2:33 pm:   

Bob,
I have actually found ICP charges above what my local dealer does on several items...
BobD (Bobd)
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Posted on Tuesday, September 03, 2002 - 2:28 pm:   

David, now you know what kind of margins Italian Car Parts is making! Think of the margins Ferrari dealers make.... since they're the only game in town!
david handa (Davehanda)
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Posted on Tuesday, September 03, 2002 - 2:14 pm:   

I can't believe that Italian Car Parts sells the exact same K&N filter for the 328 for over double what Performance International charges. They even charge over double on the shipping as well.

Here's the comparison:
ICP $89.95 plus $11.50 = $101.45
PI $37.07 plus $5.00 = $42.07

david handa (Davehanda)
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Posted on Tuesday, September 03, 2002 - 2:06 pm:   

Rob, the "exhaust whistle" thread!? Are you sure it is not the exhaust resonators? There are lot's of easy fixes for that...

David Jones (Dave)
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Posted on Tuesday, September 03, 2002 - 1:57 pm:   

Don't forget that Cosworth Vega....
david handa (Davehanda)
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Posted on Tuesday, September 03, 2002 - 1:55 pm:   

Best price for K&N is at www.performanceintl.com
They do not stock the ferrari applications, and in fact, don't even list many of them, but if you have the part number they will quote it, and ship it promptly. I just bought one for my 328 and it was only $42.07 delivered. And took only about 10 days to get.
Rob Lay (Rob328gts)
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Posted on Tuesday, September 03, 2002 - 1:34 pm:   

Only thing I don't like is little turbo type whistle at 3,500-4,000 RPM because of the flow over the filter.
Lawrence Coppari (Lawrence)
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Posted on Tuesday, September 03, 2002 - 1:33 pm:   

Well, I guess a Dodge Aries is better than a Chevrolet Vega.
Rob Lay (Rob328gts)
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Posted on Tuesday, September 03, 2002 - 1:33 pm:   

That link Steve posted is where I got my part # and it fits perfect.

Unrelated to this thread, but check out the improvements in my hp/torque as we did a same day comparison between a new stock and new K&N filter...

http://ferrarichat.com/events/dyno2002/
Frank Parker (Parkerfe)
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Posted on Tuesday, September 03, 2002 - 1:25 pm:   

You can always measure the size of the stock filter and call K&N and they can matvh it up to a part number that you can then order. That's what I had to do for my 328 back in the early 1990s before K&N make a specific filter for the 328. It seems that the size is an exact match for the filter in a Dodge Aries.
Todd Gieger (Todd328gts)
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Posted on Tuesday, September 03, 2002 - 1:09 pm:   

Thanks Dave/Steve.
I would still like to know who else is using K&N for their 328 and what Part # they are using.

I called K&N and they do not have the italian car parts # on file. They do have the FCA # but they say it's not for 86-89 328 GTS.

I'll call Italian Car parts and see if they can explain...it's good to know it works for you Dave.

Thanks.
Steve Magnusson (91tr)
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Registered: 1-2001
Posted on Tuesday, September 03, 2002 - 12:57 pm:   

Todd -- I really don't know if the K&N table on Steve J.'s FCANWR site is 100% accurate (other than I know the K&N PN for the TR is OK). I do think you can do better on price than ICP.
Dave (Maranelloman)
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Posted on Tuesday, September 03, 2002 - 12:43 pm:   

Todd, I'm using the one Italian Car Parts indicates. Perfect fit.
Todd Gieger (Todd328gts)
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Posted on Tuesday, September 03, 2002 - 11:56 am:   

Thanks Steve.

I was ordering something from www.italiancarparts.com and noticed they sold K&N Air Filters yet they have a different part # listed (KNFR4V instead of KNFE4V)
What's up with this?

Can anyone confirm the exact K&N Filter they are using on their 328GTS?

Thanks in advance.

TTG
Dave (Maranelloman)
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Posted on Tuesday, September 03, 2002 - 11:51 am:   

K&N fibbed to you! They do make a filter for a 328---I have one in mine!

I bought it from here:
http://www.italiancarparts.com/K_Nfilters/K-Nfilters.html
Steve Magnusson (91tr)
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Posted on Tuesday, September 03, 2002 - 11:10 am:   

Todd -- try this for K&N fitment information:

http://www.ferrariclub.com/faq/knfilter.html
bruce wellington (Bws88tr)
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Posted on Tuesday, September 03, 2002 - 10:50 am:   

GET SOME WORK DONE, DOG MAN

ME
Todd Gieger (Todd328gts)
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Posted on Tuesday, September 03, 2002 - 10:40 am:   

I just called K&N for an air filter for my 86 328GTS and they said they didn't have one. My mechanic told me to give them the measurements and they might have a universal one that works. Does anyone have a K&N Air Filter on their 328? If so, what is the part #

Thanks!!

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