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TomD (Tifosi)
Intermediate Member
Username: Tifosi
Post Number: 1228
Registered: 9-2001
| | Posted on Thursday, September 05, 2002 - 7:27 am: | |
i might add they should flush the coolant as well a replace the a/c alt belts as part of this service |
TomD (Tifosi)
Intermediate Member
Username: Tifosi
Post Number: 1227
Registered: 9-2001
| | Posted on Thursday, September 05, 2002 - 7:26 am: | |
yeah that is essentially what people will do in thr traditional 15k service - a little surprised the valve clearences are done also. Anyway the 30k would add the changing of the belts. If you are confident the belts were done 3 years ago then I would hold off for a few more years on having the belts done - unless you want the piece of mind. There are some UK guys on this board who can point you to good service spots. post a new thread with uk service in the title or even search for old threads |
John (Johno)
New member
Username: Johno
Post Number: 4
Registered: 2-2002
| | Posted on Thursday, September 05, 2002 - 7:17 am: | |
Thanks for the feedback guys:
Tom - I'm based in the UK, but my car is imported from Monaco. the owner's manual specifies services at: 1000km (600m), 10000km (6250m), 20000km (12500m), 30000km (18750m), etc. The 12500 is a BIG service, with the following jobs listed.
Do these match with your 15000m schedule?
Engine oil & filter
Replace gearbox and differential oil
Check battery condition and charge
Brake fluid level, replace oil
Check braking surfaces
Check brake system and warning lights
Check tension of alternator, water pumps and air-con
Clutch pedal adjustment
Check brake pedal. Adjust and lube hand brake
Change air cleaner element
Spark plugs control, rotors and ignition connections
Adjust valve clearances and cylinder heads torque
Check cam-belts for wear
Check water pump and connections of cooling system
Replace fuel filter
Inspect pipes and connections if fuel injection system
Adjust carburation (CO -HC)
Check steering box and joints etc.
Lubricate doors, bonnet, engine lid hinges
Check air-con system. Check oil compressor level
Tighten all nuts, bolts and clamps
Check headlight aiming
Preventing chassis and body rust (?)
Dave - My manual has the belt change under the 30000 kilometer (18750 mile) service or every 24 months. They were last changed 3 years ago. 7 years seems a very long time.
Bill - I agree that they are time consuming, but 15 hours? Is that reasonable. I checked out your previous post on the subject, and I love the idea of asking the servicer to record the value clearances so I can track them over time. This will give me a bit more piece of mind that the job has actually been done! ;-) |
TomD (Tifosi)
Intermediate Member
Username: Tifosi
Post Number: 1224
Registered: 9-2001
| | Posted on Thursday, September 05, 2002 - 6:38 am: | |
As david mentions if there is no evdience of any belt service in the cars life I would agree it needs to be done asap. That said there are prob a few other items to be done as well. He is also right most people also follow a 5-7 year time interval for belts as well |
TomD (Tifosi)
Intermediate Member
Username: Tifosi
Post Number: 1223
Registered: 9-2001
| | Posted on Thursday, September 05, 2002 - 6:35 am: | |
Hey Bruce
yeah, I was over in italy for a few weeks (sorry I missed all the recent NJ fun). Just changed jobs so I have been a little swamped |
Bill Sebestyen (Bill308)
Member
Username: Bill308
Post Number: 337
Registered: 5-2001
| | Posted on Wednesday, September 04, 2002 - 8:04 pm: | |
John,
Setting valve clearances can be a very time consuming project. It all depends upon how close to nominal values you want to get and how lucky you are in having the correct replacement shims. I've posted on this subject before see
http://server.ferrarichat.com/~ferrari/ferrarichat.com/discus/messages/112/40762.html |
David Jones (Dave)
Member
Username: Dave
Post Number: 304
Registered: 4-2001
| | Posted on Wednesday, September 04, 2002 - 4:39 pm: | |
John, while both Tom and Bruce are both correct about the service intervals, You are also correct to do the belt change including the cam belts with this service as your car is now 13 years old.
The cam belts are usually changed at 30k miles or 7 years, which ever comes first. |
bruce wellington (Bws88tr)
Member
Username: Bws88tr
Post Number: 819
Registered: 4-2002
| | Posted on Wednesday, September 04, 2002 - 4:37 pm: | |
nice to see ya tom
you havent beeb here for a while, vacations??
regards,
bruce |
TomD (Tifosi)
Intermediate Member
Username: Tifosi
Post Number: 1222
Registered: 9-2001
| | Posted on Wednesday, September 04, 2002 - 4:29 pm: | |
yeah those extra 4 cylinders do have their occassional downside |
bruce wellington (Bws88tr)
Member
Username: Bws88tr
Post Number: 818
Registered: 4-2002
| | Posted on Wednesday, September 04, 2002 - 4:15 pm: | |
john,
im in agreement with tom
for my t.r the first service is 15k, no belts, and runs about 4-5k, while the next major is 30k, with belts is about 7-9k, but again this is for a testarossa, not a 328..... |
TomD (Tifosi)
Intermediate Member
Username: Tifosi
Post Number: 1221
Registered: 9-2001
| | Posted on Wednesday, September 04, 2002 - 4:06 pm: | |
never heard of a 12500 service - there is the 15k service no belts which runs from $1k (maybe less) at independants to prob 1,500 at dealer. then 30k service includes belts anywhere from slightly under 2k at independants to 3-4k at dealer. where are you located |
John (Johno)
New member
Username: Johno
Post Number: 3
Registered: 2-2002
| | Posted on Wednesday, September 04, 2002 - 3:46 pm: | |
I am shopping around at the moment for a 12500 mile service + belt change for my 328, and getting VERY confused!
It should be very simple: The quotes I've been getting for the belt change seem to be fairly straightforward, but the service seems to be a different matter! The interesting thing is that some of the independent specialists are quoting me higher prices for some jobs, even though their posted, per-hour labour rate is half that of the approved dealers.
One quote from a specialist equates to 15 hours labour just to check/adjust the valve clearances. I know that this is the biggest job on the list, but 15 hours!?
On one call to a Ferrari main dealer, I heard a background chat about 19 hours for the whole service, but they wouldn't give me a service time on the phone. My confidence was further shaken, by the guy telling me he was convinced the the belt change was part of the 12500m service!!
I've searched the web in vain for info in the Ferrari workshop manual about times per job for a 328. I've heard that these are quite pessimistic, but I'd much rather the dealers and specialists quoted these at me. At least I'd know where I was :-). I don't mind spending the money to look after my car, but I do want to know where it is going.
Does anyone out there have this info. for the 12500m 328 service, or other "choosing a servicer" advice? Many thanks in advance. John |