| Author | Message | ||
| Modified348ts (Modman)
Member Username: Modman Post Number: 304 Registered: 11-2001 |
True dat and easy to do... | ||
| Frank Parker (Parkerfe)
Intermediate Member Username: Parkerfe Post Number: 1336 Registered: 9-2001 |
Dave, Ferraris that have cam belts do not have fan belts as the fans on such cars are electric. They do have accessory belts for the a/c,alternator, ect.. that came be changed without engine removal. | ||
| Dave Penhale (Dapper)
Junior Member Username: Dapper Post Number: 221 Registered: 4-2002 |
FAN BELTS!!!!! Where are they then? | ||
| Modified348ts (Modman)
Member Username: Modman Post Number: 301 Registered: 11-2001 |
Of course you would feel better about your car after a major service, who wouldn't unless it breaks your wallet or the major service becomes excessive when not needed. Let's face it, the major reason for the major service even on a low mileage Ferrari is that you don't want to risk the car having problems, but has it been proven you would have problems with belts and so on with normal interval belt changes at 30K? who knows? my car did well after almost 10yrs before the major service and the belts were fine but a few cars need to be examined in the same manor to see if the results would be the same. I hate garage queens especially a Ferrari unless it was an older one. A shame to see a car meant to be driven, driven rarely... | ||
| Frederick Thomas (Fred)
Member Username: Fred Post Number: 614 Registered: 2-2001 |
I talked to a guy from a Ferrari service dept. and he told me that while they are told not to say so the belts are good for 30k no problem. This is not taking into account belts that may have only 10k on them but are 8 years old. That may be a different story. I am not saying 8 is the magic # I just threw it out as an example. | ||
| Noelrp (Noelrp)
Junior Member Username: Noelrp Post Number: 59 Registered: 8-2001 |
Lets face it, who amongst here have done the major service & regretted it? Speaking from experience, the last thing I want to do is worry whether my belt is going to snap when driving my Ferrari at high speed/redline. Get smart, get all the belts/service done now & enjoy it to the fullest. You are eventually going to have to do it anyway. | ||
| Frank Parker (Parkerfe)
Intermediate Member Username: Parkerfe Post Number: 1330 Registered: 9-2001 |
As posted before, it is often the tensioner bearings on a garage queen that go bad and seize and that causes an otherwise good timing belt to break which causes havoc in the engine. If bearings are not rotated through regular use, flat spots develope which can cause such seizures. Bearings also dry out due to non-use which also can result in seizure. I would dare say that if one drove his Ferrari 15-20k miles a year it would go 100k miles or more with the stock cam belt. But, few do and that's why we have to have all this service done. | ||
| Fred (Iluv4res)
Junior Member Username: Iluv4res Post Number: 89 Registered: 8-2002 |
Has anyone run a car-fax on it???? Please, no personal opinions on car-fax, just was one run????? | ||
| Modified348ts (Modman)
Member Username: Modman Post Number: 296 Registered: 11-2001 |
I had my belts changed at 33k miles on a 91 348 after 11 years the timing belt still looked good as if it could go another 20K. I wouldn't worry about the belts on a 94 with 12K miles, drive it a couple more years & put on at least 10k miles and you'll realize how well the timing belt will hold up as I did. Of course the only thing that might shorten the lifespan on the belt is how much you romp on the car, in this case the 348 spyder for sale belongs to and older gentleman who drives leisurely from what I was told. | ||
| Chris A. (Asianbond)
Junior Member Username: Asianbond Post Number: 56 Registered: 5-2002 |
I compeletly understand the notion of preventive maintenance, especially on airplanes. But my point is that a majority of ferrais are not daily drivers and thus have very low mileage. So for fanbelts that look visibly worn, yes by all means change it, but for fine looking fan belts and seals that are not leaking I rather hold off on those repairs. I would bet even the spark plugs are fine after only 15k miles of usage. This is much different from a ten year old porsche which undoubtly had seen over 80km and could use a full service. | ||
| Allen Shelley (Allen_97_993)
New member Username: Allen_97_993 Post Number: 12 Registered: 3-2002 |
Chris, I kind of agree to some extent, but there are certainly items that need to be changed BEFORE they fail, like any kind of belt or hose. A car that is has 8 year old belts, needs to have the belts replaced. I'm not sure what a 348 timing belt failure is like, but I bet it's not pretty, or cheap. I asked my Porsche mechanic why he insisted on changing my fuel filter at my last check-up...I figured if it started to get clogged up, I would get symptoms, and then get it replaced. He said "if you get symptoms, you probably already have a bigger (read more expensive) problem. I guess that's why he fixing them, and I'm driving them :>) | ||
| Chris A. (Asianbond)
Junior Member Username: Asianbond Post Number: 54 Registered: 5-2002 |
You guys are too stuck on these 15k and 30k services. Just change the oil and get out and drive the car. The car will not self destruct if you don't do these services right away. If the seals don't leak why change it? So what's wrong with changing it later when they do leak? It's going to be the same cost. Besides the factory is ultra conservative on changing the cam belt every 15k, I don't think it's necessary. A f-car engine is no different from any other gasoline engine, it is not a nasa design exotic piece of machinery. | ||
| Noelrp (Noelrp)
Junior Member Username: Noelrp Post Number: 58 Registered: 8-2001 |
Allen, The car has only 12k miles so do not let the service records bother you. If the book is there, there will be just change oil(s) & 15k service. Having said that, it's important that all fluids must be changed in the car. Do both 15k & 30k service, if there is such. What's important now is the PPI. Make sure that the condition of the car & engine is consistent with the mileage. -noel | ||
| Allen Shelley (Allen_97_993)
New member Username: Allen_97_993 Post Number: 10 Registered: 3-2002 |
I talked with the folks at Silver Recycling and he has the service history since '98...basically the oil was changed, I don't know if that's bad or normal. As far as the service records BEFORE '98, there are none...which really bothers me. I called Ferrari of Los Gatos where the car was bought in '98, and they put me in touch with "their" service department...Ferrari of Beverly Hills. Beverly Hills wouldn't give me any service history on the car (I have the VIN)without actually being there with the car. The car would need a 30K service for sure. The fact that the car doesn't have records prior to '98 says to me that there is something about the car that someone didn't want passed along with it...I mean who would NOT keep records on a Ferrari especially one they bought new! | ||
| Gene Agatep (Gagatep)
New member Username: Gagatep Post Number: 10 Registered: 8-2002 |
'94 spy for $64K - good price but consider the 30K service which it needs due to its 8 year old belts as Martin said $5K unless you do it yourself - then just parts. Its the seller that I may have concerns with. They are a dismantling house / insurance recovery. Verify mileage before purchase. Do compression and leak down test. If it is mechanically sound, and its the true mileage, you're 80% there. The 20% is to find out it is truely a no damage history. (At the price they are asking personally I wouldn't worry that much). Try to negotiate lower at a cash price to ease the 20% anxiety. Call F of Los Gatos for their knowledge, seller said thats where it was originaly purchased. | ||
| Mitch Alsup (Mitch_alsup)
Junior Member Username: Mitch_alsup Post Number: 140 Registered: 4-2002 |
Note: With the GTB and GTS you can run in the fast groups, but the Cabrio is often only allowed to run in the slowest run group.* So if you have any real inclinations to high performance track driving, you might want to consider your options carefully. (* depending upon the sactioning body, and those who run that particular event) | ||
| Martin (Miami348ts)
Advanced Member Username: Miami348ts Post Number: 2767 Registered: 5-2001 |
Allen, yes the cover can be changed. I have both, the black and tan on the car we have for sale.  | ||
| Modified348ts (Modman)
Member Username: Modman Post Number: 295 Registered: 11-2001 |
This recycler is just around my corner! If I have the chance I'll go and check it out personally. Sounds like a really great deal but of course pictures can only tell you so much. If it was a blk interior and it was as good as they say, it would be mine. | ||
| Allen Shelley (Allen_97_993)
New member Username: Allen_97_993 Post Number: 8 Registered: 3-2002 |
Can the covertible top cover be changed from black to tan? | ||
| Chris A. (Asianbond)
Junior Member Username: Asianbond Post Number: 52 Registered: 5-2002 |
FOlks, watch out for flooded cars, it won't show collision damage, you must check for water marks, rust marks. Some flooded cars come back on the market with clean titles depending on the state. | ||
| John Bicsak (Funshipone)
Junior Member Username: Funshipone Post Number: 115 Registered: 1-2002 |
Hello Allen I am also looking for a 94-95 348 Spider see my report(348 owners) of one I found in Detroit where I live the one you found sounds like better deal if all checks out correct.I believe 348,355 and 360 market is going down.I have seen 348's all the way from $55,000 to $80,000 depends on car and owner. | ||
| Martin (Miami348ts)
Advanced Member Username: Miami348ts Post Number: 2738 Registered: 5-2001 |
Another car with Cruise Control and Power Seats...tse tse tse! Silverstar recycling is a insurance accident vehicle dealer. Just make sure to have the car checked before you buy it. The car likely had no 30K done, which it needs soon ($5K)but the price is great. The Miles worry me, sounds too good to be true but then....have it chekced. Overall the car appears clean! | ||
| Chris Tanner (Ctanner)
New member Username: Ctanner Post Number: 30 Registered: 5-2001 |
Your right. That's an awfully nice car for $64K. Although the car has no accidents and says it is perfect, Silver Star Recycling usually lists cars on Ebay that have been hit or have some kind of story. However, if this car has no story, it looks like a good buy. | ||
| Allen Shelley (Allen_97_993)
New member Username: Allen_97_993 Post Number: 6 Registered: 3-2002 |
I currently have a '97 Porsche 993 Coupe and have been thinking about a Ferrari every since I went to a Ferrari Club track event about a year ago...I'm going to another one next weekend. I initially thought about a '95 355 Coupe, but really think a Spider would be better for me, and I can't afford a 355 Spider, so I am looking at 348 Spiders. I have been looking all over the Internet trying to learn the market for the cars and came across this one that looks good, but the price seems low to me. I would appreciate your opinions. http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1856757030 |