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Manu Sachdeva (Manu)
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Username: Manu
Post Number: 439
Registered: 2-2002
| | Posted on Tuesday, September 17, 2002 - 6:29 am: | |
Yep Doody - it was pretty rare mate - the World Land Speed Record cars did come with it.
Actually a few 550 Barchettas have it too. |
Mr. Doody (Doody)
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Username: Doody
Post Number: 456
Registered: 11-2001
| | Posted on Tuesday, September 17, 2002 - 6:17 am: | |
[[[the 550 also came with optional FHP]]]
i believe this was only available for MY 2000 and 2001.
furthermore, i have yet to see a car listed on the secondary market with it - i think it was wildly rare.
doody. |
Manu Sachdeva (Manu)
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Username: Manu
Post Number: 438
Registered: 2-2002
| | Posted on Tuesday, September 17, 2002 - 5:26 am: | |
There is absolutely no way I would choose pretty much ANY car over the 575 - definitely no Vanquish (if I wanted the same interior fittings all I have to do is drive my 18 year old brothers ancient Ford Fiesta).
You guys have read our impressions on the Lamborghini - the Murcielago was a HUGE disappointment.
All I'd do is get the FHP on the 575 and unsilence the whole exhaust - the perfect car for me.
Ross - the 550 also came with optional FHP. |
ross koller (Ross)
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Username: Ross
Post Number: 302
Registered: 3-2002
| | Posted on Tuesday, September 17, 2002 - 4:58 am: | |
afterthought.....did the 550's have any kind of optional handling package that i should look out for? |
ross koller (Ross)
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Username: Ross
Post Number: 301
Registered: 3-2002
| | Posted on Tuesday, September 17, 2002 - 4:57 am: | |
this echoes a thread i started last week, so won't retread the same path. but i am slowly concluding that there soon won't be any reason to buy the 575 over the 550. given that i am a bargain hunter, it would take many more years for the 575 to get into my range, whereas the 550 is nearly there. and since the used 575 mkt is going to b mostly non fhp's w/ f1 shifters (neither of which i like), then price wise, there is a huge difference vs, more/less better guaranteed performance in the 550.
then again maybe i shouldn't advertise this logic too much lest everyone else feels the same and those 550's take a longer time to drop below $100k...... |
Vince (Manatee)
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Username: Manatee
Post Number: 40
Registered: 6-2002
| | Posted on Monday, September 16, 2002 - 6:50 pm: | |
I have a 575 F1, and am thoroughly enjoying it. I had a '98 355 F1. The 575 shifts slower, but smoother, in normal mode. The 575 feels happiest when kept above 3000. However, it will pull nicely at all revs.
I'm not intending it to be a track car. I wanted a fun car to drive around on weekends, and it is doing that very nicely indeed.
I had to make a choice between the Vanquish and the 575. I'm very happy with my decision.
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Andrew Menasce (Amenasce)
Junior Member
Username: Amenasce
Post Number: 230
Registered: 10-2001
| | Posted on Monday, September 16, 2002 - 6:20 pm: | |
Sure , but apparently Automobile got better track time for the vanquish , SL 55 and Murcielago and better acceleration times also !
Murcielago , ok , but SL 55 and vanquish ? Both are heavier and have less HP ...Im confused ! |
Matt Karson (Squidracing)
Junior Member
Username: Squidracing
Post Number: 172
Registered: 3-2001
| | Posted on Monday, September 16, 2002 - 5:37 pm: | |
Also, lets keep in mind that the 575 was NOT made with thrashing it around the track in mind. It reminds me of people who drive 550's and TR's (all variations) at track events who are suprised that they are not the most nimble of Fcars on the track.
It is a civilized street car, and in order to make it civilized, there has to be compromises.
For $2xx,xxx, I would not want to slam my kidneys around on a daily basis....but oh boy, is that Vanquish bespoke or what? |
Racer 001 (Mr_0011)
Junior Member
Username: Mr_0011
Post Number: 148
Registered: 3-2002
| | Posted on Monday, September 16, 2002 - 4:56 pm: | |
EVO is great but it isn't a holy book people. Didn't Ferrari get faster times in the 575M F1 then in the 550? |
Andrew Menasce (Amenasce)
Junior Member
Username: Amenasce
Post Number: 229
Registered: 10-2001
| | Posted on Monday, September 16, 2002 - 3:45 pm: | |
Did Ferrari really •••••• up with the 575 ? its getting bad reviews everywhere ?
Its slower than most of its competitors (Vanquish and SL 55 included ! ) and it has lost the 550 brilliant handling if EVO is right !
What's the problem ? Does the Fiorano package solve all those problems??
I hate seing a Ferrari being ranked last. |
David Burch (Merlyn)
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Username: Merlyn
Post Number: 14
Registered: 8-2002
| | Posted on Friday, September 13, 2002 - 3:38 pm: | |
Hugh, thanks for the imput
I have a friend who is going to Maranello in a couple of weeks to be fitted for his Enzo. He has a 360 F1 so I will be interested to hear his comments.
I'm interested in the follow-on model to the 575 as I would prefer a little more trunk room. Also it should have second generation active suspension. For sure it will offer more than the 575 if past history is any indication. |
Hubert Otlik (Hugh)
Junior Member
Username: Hugh
Post Number: 203
Registered: 1-2002
| | Posted on Friday, September 13, 2002 - 3:20 pm: | |
David,
From one of my previous posts:
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little more magazine racing:
September issue of 'evo' a UK mag, varient of 'car' if I remember correctly, did a road test featuring: the 575, murcialago(sp?), vanquish, and as a baseline used a modefied 911TT w/ larger factory turbos, all to define the best 'road car'. The authors, all of them, echoed the exact sentiments about the 575's mushy feel, they did rave about the 550/575 engine as being the 'greatest' road going 12 ever, but were terribly disappointed in the loss of handling, get the fiarano handling package on the 575 or stick to the 550.
Further, they had divided sentiments about the 575's F1 tranny-as nearly every uk review of any F1 tranny smacks of critique( an exception would be the latest enzo reviews where the brick in the chest 150 millisecond shifts are revered)- and said they would opt for the standard 'gated' shifter; interestingly, they did coment that the vanquish had a more refined F1 tranny; at the expense of noticably slower shifts, but with less 'clunk', smoother engagement and so on.
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I guess the chronology of 575 press review started w/ a 575 equipped w/ the 'Fiorano' handling package; stiffer shock settings/springs, bsuhings, maybe even different motor mounts to solidify the cars feel under gear changes. Now, however, the cars are getting publicity have the 'street' setup; softer springs, shock settings, bushings, etc., the most graphic display of this is the extreme changes in pitch angle(s); under heavy braking the car's nose dives-shaprly-; under heavy acceleration the nose lifts, and under heavy cornering the car runs out of suspension travel and the car 'bottoms out', and loses traction. Also, brake pedal feel has been 'coined' as mushy, don't know what the authors are comparing it to, but I'm sure mushy to them is not the mushy you meet at the track trying to slow a car off the straight. Lastly, w/ respect to the gearbox; it's seen as 'aggressive' and lacking 'fluidity'; this however was in comparison the vanquish gearbox which is both slower, in shift times, and purposfully more refined. All these elemnts combined, I suppose, are giving journalistst a tase of 'mushy', and leads them to see the whole car as soft or loose. I would get the 575 regardless, do get, however the Fiorano handling package. |
TomD (Tifosi)
Intermediate Member
Username: Tifosi
Post Number: 1308
Registered: 9-2001
| | Posted on Friday, September 13, 2002 - 2:07 pm: | |
get the 575 with the handling package and you won't be disappointed. Why wait for the next model - they ain't paying you interest |
David Burch (Merlyn)
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Username: Merlyn
Post Number: 13
Registered: 8-2002
| | Posted on Friday, September 13, 2002 - 1:14 pm: | |
I just read an article about the 575 Maranello in Sports Car International, which rated it over the 550. I have seen some remarks about the 550 out handling the 575. What gives I wonder? I have a 575 on order with the option to transfer the deposit to the next model after the 575. Are there any really objective reviews out there? I suspect a writer, who has just been given the keys to a 575 at the factory, isn�t going to pan it and expect to be invited back.
The article went on to praise the F1 system in the 575, finding some fault with the 355 and 360 system. I have a 355 F1, and have driven the 360 F1. I prefer the 355, as mine has performed flawlessly. I have heard that there is some variance from car to car in both. I guess mine was one of the good ones, as I have no complaints.
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