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Modified348ts (Modman)
Member
Username: Modman
Post Number: 331
Registered: 11-2001
| | Posted on Tuesday, September 24, 2002 - 2:27 pm: | |
Hey Martin, how's business doing in Florida or businesses in general? The aftermarket industry? are there ricers out there too? I was thinking of possibly moving or starting another business down there, maybe selling cars! J/K! no but really, I was thinking for a change of pace.... |
Martin (Miami348ts)
Advanced Member
Username: Miami348ts
Post Number: 2865
Registered: 5-2001
| | Posted on Tuesday, September 24, 2002 - 10:07 am: | |
74K Miles sounds right. As for the service, well there is those that service at FofXXX and those that go independant and save save save.
I like both cars. The First is a little overpriced but the full engine rebuilt is interesting for long term use.
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Bill Sawyer (Wsawyer)
Member
Username: Wsawyer
Post Number: 460
Registered: 2-2002
| | Posted on Tuesday, September 24, 2002 - 9:28 am: | |
Interesting. since when are Ferraris supposed to be quiet? The Maserati has chains. Hopefully the new 360 replacement will also. |
Bruno (Originalsinner)
Member
Username: Originalsinner
Post Number: 563
Registered: 5-2002
| | Posted on Tuesday, September 24, 2002 - 9:15 am: | |
Belts are quieter.Thats why they "claim" they did it. |
Modified348ts (Modman)
Member
Username: Modman
Post Number: 327
Registered: 11-2001
| | Posted on Tuesday, September 24, 2002 - 1:53 am: | |
Not sure if true but I asked why belts are used in the 8 cyl. F cars and was told that belts are easier to turn for being lighter whereas 12 cyl have more power to move and the chain can handle the torque. I can see a vintage car not being driven as much or not at all but a modern day car, it should be driven.. |
Bruno (Originalsinner)
Member
Username: Originalsinner
Post Number: 558
Registered: 5-2002
| | Posted on Monday, September 23, 2002 - 10:32 am: | |
It's mainly a time to play with them issue for me.Also some of my vintage stuff is just to valuable to insure and drive.I will say one thing.The operating cost of a front engine 12 cylinder is far less than that of the rear engine v-8's. And 30k maintenance is much cheaper.Maybe I should drive the 12's and park the 8's!!! I dont question durability issues.I simply say that if you pull out the scheduled maintenance for a 308 and go to a Fcar dealer and have everything done from oil changes.air horns oil,etc,etc,etc.It adds up. If you drive the car 30,000 miles between maintenance and before to many years pass then the cost per mile will average down.People dont.Look at how many 308's still claim 35k miles.If the car is 25 years old and you did a 30k by dealer every 5 years.cost is well over $1.00 per mile.Another reason front engine 12's are cheaper to operate.engine stays in car.chain not belts. |
Modified348ts (Modman)
Member
Username: Modman
Post Number: 323
Registered: 11-2001
| | Posted on Monday, September 23, 2002 - 2:49 am: | |
Bruno, well it is very hard for me to understand why one would not want to drive such car or cars for 10 years- it's almost a sin and I would think the cars would be in starve of good excercise. Even if it was for investment it is still considered a loss to me since if you sell it, it would benefit the new owner since you paid for maintenance for not driving it and worst of all not experiencing the car to its fullest potential and from this I can see how many Ferrari owners will never realize how long these cars will drive before a new car is needed so the question will still remain to a lot of potential Ferrari buyers of how durable or reliable these cars could be. I for one would drive these type of cars to it's fullest potential and put it to its test and ignore how many miles that are on it |
Bruno (Originalsinner)
Member
Username: Originalsinner
Post Number: 557
Registered: 5-2002
| | Posted on Sunday, September 22, 2002 - 11:27 am: | |
I have owned 9 Ferrari's over the years.And 1.00 a mile still seems right.74k is nothing hard to believe.I have cars I havent driven in 10 years.Before this spring I have not driven any of my cars for 5.I know plenty of people,some here on the chat,that have had their cars sit for 10 years.I beleive our #1 poster had his car in storage for 10 years.I know many other enthusiast who parked their cars at the end of the 80's hype and still have not returned them to the road.Bad Ferrari experiences.Not really.But I know how expensive it can get to maintain 1.When in doubt get the guys records and check.If it's dealer serviced all mileage will be recorded.JMO |
Ben Cannon (Artherd)
Junior Member
Username: Artherd
Post Number: 67
Registered: 6-2002
| | Posted on Sunday, September 22, 2002 - 1:50 am: | |
I work in the imaging buisness, and I'd say that just looks like *really* high JPEG compression. (JPEG works on chroma and lumina discreet cosine averages over square pixel regions; hence the different sized 'squares' of solid color/value you see in the image.) Compression that high could conciveably mask retouching, but I doubt it in this case.
Best!
Ben. |
Modified348ts (Modman)
Member
Username: Modman
Post Number: 319
Registered: 11-2001
| | Posted on Sunday, September 22, 2002 - 1:28 am: | |
But it's not the years were talking about, it's the miles! 25 years for me I would have much more miles than just 75K, I can't imagine one would drive only 3k a year and call themselves a Ferrari enthusiast cause I don't buy that garbage, you'd be better off buying 1/16 scale model cars if that's the case. I still think a dollar a mile for this 308 is wrong, I'm with ED on this one, it better be something worth that dollar per mile. The 360 isn't even a dollar per mile on maintenance and I believe you can ask Ernesto on this unless you only drive 3k per year? Bruno you must have a bad Ferrari experience? or just accept it? 3k per year? 8k for 308 30K service? what did they do? new valve heads and pistons? my 348 major service replacing water pump all belts,fluids ,adjustments, replacement of faulty sender unit and a whole bunch of nonsense parts was 9K. It normally be about 6K but the car had a few problems which needed correction in the first place that would have ended the dilemna a long time ago. The 308 don't look that hard to work on compared to a 348, 355, and so on. |
Bruno (Originalsinner)
Member
Username: Originalsinner
Post Number: 555
Registered: 5-2002
| | Posted on Saturday, September 21, 2002 - 10:57 am: | |
Dollar a mile seems about right from my F car experience.And I have own several.Is it nuts.YES.
Ferrari dealer in Phila now gets 8k for 30k+.on 308.If you follow Ferrari recommendations and take it to the dealer and get your stamps in your owners book 70k over 25 years is about right. |
Edward Gault (Irfgt)
Intermediate Member
Username: Irfgt
Post Number: 2021
Registered: 2-2001
| | Posted on Saturday, September 21, 2002 - 4:58 am: | |
No 308 is worth a dollar per mile to drive. No car is worth a dollar a mile to drive. Well, maybe a F-1 Ferrari. |
Modified348ts (Modman)
Member
Username: Modman
Post Number: 315
Registered: 11-2001
| | Posted on Saturday, September 21, 2002 - 1:30 am: | |
Was just thinking of this 74K car, I don't believe it. It probably has at least double the mileage, picture if this could ever be you, this car, this low mileage and money spent on maintenance. Don't sound right. |
Modified348ts (Modman)
Member
Username: Modman
Post Number: 314
Registered: 11-2001
| | Posted on Saturday, September 21, 2002 - 1:12 am: | |
So for an average of 3100 miles a year, the total maintenance cost for driving this many miles is about $3171. annually? what the hell is wrong with this picture? It's kinda like going for a 30K service on a Ferrari and it costing over $30.000 or even half of that! is not worth owning, it's more maintenance time than enjoyment driving time, give me something else.... |
Bruno (Originalsinner)
Member
Username: Originalsinner
Post Number: 546
Registered: 5-2002
| | Posted on Friday, September 20, 2002 - 5:02 pm: | |
Even better
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1862288116&ssPageName=ADME:B:LC:MT:1 |
Patrick Pasqualini (Enzo)
New member
Username: Enzo
Post Number: 43
Registered: 2-2002
| | Posted on Friday, September 20, 2002 - 7:58 am: | |
Sounds good John. Let me know when the drive is. thanks |
John J Stecher (Jjstecher)
Member
Username: Jjstecher
Post Number: 302
Registered: 1-2002
| | Posted on Friday, September 20, 2002 - 1:55 am: | |
Congrats on the daughter Patrick!! I hope she brings you lots of joys. As far as my baby she is full of life and louder than ever with her new Tubi! :o) We have a Fall drive coming up in Minnesota, I will let you know details when I find out more. |
Patrick Pasqualini (Enzo)
New member
Username: Enzo
Post Number: 42
Registered: 2-2002
| | Posted on Thursday, September 19, 2002 - 10:43 pm: | |
Things are going good John good to hear from you. Lifes been pretty busy since our daughter was born about 3 weeks ago. My first Ferrari is going to have to wait a year or so sad to say. But in the meantime as a little present from my dad he handed over the keys to my new 1966 Lemans Convert that he has owned for about 15 years. So that keeps my car habit quiet for a little bit. Looking forward to seeing and hearing the 348 with the new exhaust. |
Adam R (Arymarcz)
New member
Username: Arymarcz
Post Number: 8
Registered: 8-2002
| | Posted on Thursday, September 19, 2002 - 10:20 pm: | |
Maybe it's just the nap being roughed-up after being washed. |
John J Stecher (Jjstecher)
Member
Username: Jjstecher
Post Number: 301
Registered: 1-2002
| | Posted on Thursday, September 19, 2002 - 9:51 pm: | |
Hey Patrick how are you? Any luck finding the first Ferrari yet?? If your interested I know of someone selling a 328 for around $35K excellent service records and the car has been taken care of. Anyway, hope that everything is treating you well and I hope to see you again soon!
John |
Patrick Pasqualini (Enzo)
New member
Username: Enzo
Post Number: 41
Registered: 2-2002
| | Posted on Thursday, September 19, 2002 - 9:36 pm: | |
Thats what i thought right away too but the pixels are too far off to be normal. The colors look different. I think he is trying to pull something over on someone. |
chris (Wrench_turner)
New member
Username: Wrench_turner
Post Number: 40
Registered: 5-2002
| | Posted on Thursday, September 19, 2002 - 9:29 pm: | |
maybe, but it also could just be the pictures were taken with a really, really bad digital camera and blown up to a much bigger size. |
Patrick Pasqualini (Enzo)
New member
Username: Enzo
Post Number: 40
Registered: 2-2002
| | Posted on Thursday, September 19, 2002 - 9:24 pm: | |
When looking at this on E-bay i noticed the pictures of the interior look as though they have been touched up. Look at the floormats.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1862169689 |