| Author | Message | ||
| David S (Djs308)
New member Username: Djs308 Post Number: 2 Registered: 9-2002 |
I don't own either one but experienced both first hand (for brief stints): I got a ride in an 87 TR driven by a pro. The torque is incomparable!! FAST is an inadequate word. Looks fantastic but it's tough to navigate on urban streets. Ground clearance is low, expect to hit curbs or speedbumps if you fail to pay attention ($$$$$) plus the car is superWIDE. Great for highway cruising. As for the 348. I rented one on a vacation trip to Maui. It was a 94 spider. Got to drive it for 6 hours. By the way, watch the speed limits in Maui, patrol cars are waiting to nail you in their traps (just missed a ticket in the 348!) Acceleration is excellent but not as fierce as the TR. At 80mph, it felt like it was doing 40 and I thought the speedo was wrong because driving it is almost effortless (for a Ferrari). Really good on the twisties. More practical than TR if you are looking for a daily driver. Also, I got 25 mpg in those 6 hours (just lucky I guess). As for servicing, if you aren't a DYI'er, the TR will set you back much more per service. Other posters have provided more details on this. If I had the money, I'd start with a 348 and two years later, move into a TR and enjoy every moment in both. | ||
| bruce wellington (Bws88tr)
Member Username: Bws88tr Post Number: 915 Registered: 4-2002 |
T T G CHECK YOUR EMAIL... BEW | ||
| Todd Gieger (Todd328gts)
Junior Member Username: Todd328gts Post Number: 166 Registered: 6-2002 |
I don't own either but to me it's a no brainer...the TR! It's just more sinister, intimidating and makes a statement. I like the 348 yet something about it is just not as masculine and kinda kit car-ish at certain angles...unless it is all suped up like Martin's. | ||
| Mitch Alsup (Mitch_alsup)
Junior Member Username: Mitch_alsup Post Number: 158 Registered: 4-2002 |
I have gotten 21 MPG driving from Austin to Conroe at 65 MPH in a 95 F355B. | ||
| Dave Wapinski (Davewapinski)
Member Username: Davewapinski Post Number: 344 Registered: 8-2001 |
The 348, claimed milage 24,000, consignment $68k, price appears firm. TR, claimed milage 9,000, asking $75k Lambo 97 1/2 Diablo Roadster 15,000, asking $170k I am not from AZ, but have been in AZ many times. When I am not doing management and computer consulting, I do wildlife and nature photography for several magazines to include National Geographic. Right now I am consulting for Intel. In the Document/Knowledgement field there are two main players: Documentum & FileNET. I got interested in this field 10 years ago to do more in my life. The field includes tools to allow geographically distant groups to work together, automated workflows with business rules coded to do routine tasks, and much more. Documentum in particular is buggy; support is really bad; there are no published books; Factory support is $250 an hour plus expenses; clients need to interface Documentum with different databases like Oracle, DB/2, MS SQL, Informix, etc; clients need to interface Documentum to SAP, JD Edwards, etc; custom code needs to be written (Documentum has its own languages); etc. In addition, analysis has to be done to match business needs to computer technology. So one has to know many different things. Even Intel is having problems with Documentum. Average software costs are $1,000,000 to $5,000,000. It can get interesting at times. Sometimes very stressful: once I got called, "we do not know what was done, but we have 5,000 workers sitting idel (sp), get us back up as soon as possible." Then I had 3 Vice Presidents looking over my shoulder while trying to figure out what was wrong. After the bugs are worked out, Documentum can do great things and save millions of dollars. When the Italian casino in Las Vegas opened, they used FileNET. They interviewed, did all the paperwork, and hired about 5,000 workers in 60 calander days. This could not have been done without the technology. | ||
| Ben Cannon (Artherd)
Junior Member Username: Artherd Post Number: 63 Registered: 6-2002 |
The TR is a heavier, faster, more 'GT' car, the 348 is the tossable go-kart. The suspension of the TR does make you feel every little crevice, it's true. The 348 is much more 'street' sprung. The 348 I think actually leans more in turns, but it could be me. It certinly is more 'tossable.' The TR is one of the world's great challenges to drive at 10/10ths (due to engine on gearbox layout) but it sure is rewarding! Supercar vs Sports car? In a perfect world, BUY BOTH! :D) Best! Ben. | ||
| Stanley DiGuiseppi (Standig)
Junior Member Username: Standig Post Number: 58 Registered: 5-2002 |
Both great cars. The TR is heavy and you feel it in the steering especially in town. The 12 cycld is smooth and powerfull like driving a rocket ship. The 348 is smooth also not a much zip but the avg. miles is 18 to 20. Less if you have big boots. | ||
| ross koller (Ross)
Member Username: Ross Post Number: 317 Registered: 3-2002 |
my 512tr gets about 11-12mpg. city is low and i'm always gunning it on the highway. 24mpg seems virtually impossible. 2 different cars completely. you failed to fill us in on some important details like year and price, which would affect my choice at least. | ||
| Ben Lobenstein 90 TR (Benjet)
Member Username: Benjet Post Number: 784 Registered: 1-2001 |
Dave, Own a TR, less than familiar with 348, so I'm not the best to "compare". TR is rough when pavement is rough - base it on the very responsive NON power steering. I have gotten mid 20's in Fuel Econ based on 65 mph 5th gear driving ONLY. Around the city expect 10mpg, overall avg. ~15mpg. I have heard longer sprints in 5th will render high 20's (Who ever would want to do that?). If you right foot is heavy and you like the torque of 1st gear, could get as bad as 6-8mpg, like MichaelN said. -Ben | ||
| allan fiedler (Allanlambo)
New member Username: Allanlambo Post Number: 8 Registered: 6-2002 |
hey dave, looks like you live in arizona. ive seen both those cars at the dealerships off scottsdale rd. i looked at the 348 convert, looked nice on the outside, but interior is a little rough. same dealer had a nice diablo roadster inside. | ||
| Dave Wapinski (Davewapinski)
Member Username: Davewapinski Post Number: 338 Registered: 8-2001 |
Doing about 80 on these roads | ||
| Modified348ts (Modman)
Member Username: Modman Post Number: 308 Registered: 11-2001 |
It depends on your driving style..... | ||
| Dave Wapinski (Davewapinski)
Member Username: Davewapinski Post Number: 335 Registered: 8-2001 |
A different TR and a Mondail:  | ||
| Dave Wapinski (Davewapinski)
Member Username: Davewapinski Post Number: 333 Registered: 8-2001 |
TR with lesser vehicles.  | ||
| Dave Wapinski (Davewapinski)
Member Username: Davewapinski Post Number: 332 Registered: 8-2001 |
On this type of road, the 348 was much smoother. With the TR I could really feel the lack of smoothness of the road. Is this normal?   | ||
| Dave Wapinski (Davewapinski)
Member Username: Davewapinski Post Number: 331 Registered: 8-2001 |
Car no workie on test ride (but cause was minor)  | ||
| billy zissis (89tr)
Junior Member Username: 89tr Post Number: 220 Registered: 4-2001 |
24mpg? Maybe on the back of a trailer. With real easy driving I am lucky to get 15mpg. tops 17mpg. | ||
| Henryk (Henryk)
Member Username: Henryk Post Number: 275 Registered: 8-2001 |
Easy driving on the highway gets me about 16-17mpg in my US version 88TR. This is doing about 70mph in a 65mph zone. | ||
| Michael N. (Man90tr)
Member Username: Man90tr Post Number: 664 Registered: 4-2001 |
The salesman is right if you drive like a grandma on the highway at 55 in 5th gear -- then you might get 24 MPG,,but who the F*** drives a TR like that . Bruce is right on the money 15 if you are lucky, more like 12, hard driving 8 - 10. | ||
| Henryk (Henryk)
Member Username: Henryk Post Number: 273 Registered: 8-2001 |
I own an 88TR, and have driven a 348 GTS. The TR is more of a cruiser, than a "fling it about" car, as is the 348.....I like 12 cylinders. The look of the TR is MORE awesome, in my opinion. I think you must decide whether you want a convertible, or not. | ||
| bruce wellington (Bws88tr)
Member Username: Bws88tr Post Number: 874 Registered: 4-2002 |
true, my ass, it get about 15 if im lucky... | ||
| Dave Wapinski (Davewapinski)
Member Username: Davewapinski Post Number: 328 Registered: 8-2001 |
The salesman also said the TR got 24 mpg. This did not seem right. Is it true? | ||
| bruce wellington (Bws88tr)
Member Username: Bws88tr Post Number: 873 Registered: 4-2002 |
dave i own a 88tr and the power and torque is unreal..i cant comment on a 348, because i never have been in one,but once you drive a tr, there is no looking back...dont forget its 12 cylinders, so more $$ for service and repairs,but diffently worth it... good luck... bruce | ||
| Dave Wapinski (Davewapinski)
Member Username: Davewapinski Post Number: 326 Registered: 8-2001 |
Not trying to insulate anyone, but trying to learn which is best for me. Yesterday test drove a Testarossa and a 348 Spider. I was impressed that the Testarossa seemed to have unlimited smooth power. I was impressed that the 348 seemed more like a go cart. Shifting was different between the two, but both were acceptable. However, on uneven pavement, the Testarossa was much rougher and I had to go slower than with the 348. Is this typical or these particualar cars? |