| Author | Message | ||
| Paul Newman (Newman)
Member Username: Newman Post Number: 498 Registered: 12-2001 |
The suggested belt change on a new Phord focus for example is 200k. The car wont last that long. | ||
| Edward Gault (Irfgt)
Intermediate Member Username: Irfgt Post Number: 2027 Registered: 2-2001 |
No, I am sorry but they are not. The HSN belts may someday but without changing the pulleys, the HTD belts will not work. | ||
| Dr Tommy Cosgrove (Vwalfa4re)
Member Username: Vwalfa4re Post Number: 300 Registered: 5-2001 |
Are the newer HTD HSN belts available for my 308 QV? | ||
| Edward Gault (Irfgt)
Intermediate Member Username: Irfgt Post Number: 2025 Registered: 2-2001 |
From my experience age makes little difference as these things simply do not deteriorate as quickly as some would want you to believe. The primary structure of a belt is Fiberglass. If it was my car I would not replace them until the factory suggested mileage was attained. Heat and oil on the belts is the biggest cause of failure. You can look on the back side of the belts and if there are no cracks in it then age is not affecting it. The newer HTD HSN belts will last indefinately which is what most modern cars now have. | ||
| Dr Tommy Cosgrove (Vwalfa4re)
Member Username: Vwalfa4re Post Number: 295 Registered: 5-2001 |
I had mine replaced in April 1998. That was 20,000 miles and almost 5 years. Should I change them then again this next April??? | ||
| Bruno (Originalsinner)
Member Username: Originalsinner Post Number: 554 Registered: 5-2002 |
Mine was then I quit and went into buisness for myself.Much more stress but very interesting. | ||
| Edward Gault (Irfgt)
Intermediate Member Username: Irfgt Post Number: 2019 Registered: 2-2001 |
It does get boring at times especially since 75% of them are Honda belts, but that's what I do. Probably most everyones job is repetition as well. | ||
| Paul Newman (Newman)
Member Username: Newman Post Number: 495 Registered: 12-2001 |
Thats a pile of money Bruno, I dont get tired of making that. | ||
| Bruno (Originalsinner)
Member Username: Originalsinner Post Number: 552 Registered: 5-2002 |
Thats a pile. U dont get tired of doing them after a while? | ||
| Edward Gault (Irfgt)
Intermediate Member Username: Irfgt Post Number: 2017 Registered: 2-2001 |
Last January I started throwing all the old timing belts in a pile that I replaced this year. Here is the pile so far. The picture didn't come out as clear as I hoped but it is hard to get a picture of a big black pile.  | ||
| Edward Gault (Irfgt)
Intermediate Member Username: Irfgt Post Number: 2016 Registered: 2-2001 |
If I recall correctly, it got most of the exhaust valves. I do not remember how many intakes. I believe I replaced them all since the customer gave me a blank check. This has been a year or so ago and I usually cannot remember past yesterday anymore. Check out my next post! | ||
| Bruno (Originalsinner)
Member Username: Originalsinner Post Number: 551 Registered: 5-2002 |
ya the 944's are easy.80k original belt? How many valves bent? | ||
| Edward Gault (Irfgt)
Intermediate Member Username: Irfgt Post Number: 2015 Registered: 2-2001 |
I had one Porsche 944 to break a belt with 80,000 miles on it. Fairly simple to replace the valves in it as a result. | ||
| Bruno (Originalsinner)
Member Username: Originalsinner Post Number: 545 Registered: 5-2002 |
my 944 had 100k before I did the belt.balance belts also.I wouldnt do a Porshe before 100k.They just run. | ||
| Bruno (Originalsinner)
Member Username: Originalsinner Post Number: 544 Registered: 5-2002 |
My Audi 5000 had 225,000 miles on the belt. 50-60k on a belt.No problem.tensioners,bearings,water pumps,valves adjust,cam seals? Broke a belt on my 80 308 at 45k.car was 12 years old with original belt.no piston damage.3 valves needed.Price wasnt much more than a good 30k anyway. | ||
| Edward Gault (Irfgt)
Intermediate Member Username: Irfgt Post Number: 2007 Registered: 2-2001 |
I replaced the belts on a 1990 Accord last week that had over 200,000 miles on the belts. FYI all 4 cyl. Accords have a cam belt and a balance shaft belt. The belts still looked good and were 12 years old too. | ||
| David White (Dwhite)
Junior Member Username: Dwhite Post Number: 69 Registered: 7-2002 |
Ron - I agree with you, if Honda belts last 100K spinning at 8,000 rpm, why would Ferrari use less quality parts. However, it is a very expensive myth to disprove. The other side is, they are probably the least expensive parts in the whole car and can be done by a competent owner. | ||
| Ron Thomas (Ronsupercar)
Member Username: Ronsupercar Post Number: 320 Registered: 5-2002 |
If the manual calls for 52k before belt changes, wouldn't that mean Ferrari has already factored that some people will go over that amount before changing the belts.. I really believe that 30k belt change is a myth and a way for dealers to make more money quick | ||
| Dave328GTB (Hardtop)
Junior Member Username: Hardtop Post Number: 247 Registered: 1-2002 |
I would still do valves at 15K and valves and belts at 30K. Lots cheaper than engine parts. DAve | ||
| Frederick Thomas (Fred)
Member Username: Fred Post Number: 623 Registered: 2-2001 |
I think so. The manual for my 308 doesn't call for the belts to be changed untill 52k. Now I personally would not go that long but I don't think you need to at 15k | ||
| Dave Wapinski (Davewapinski)
Member Username: Davewapinski Post Number: 327 Registered: 8-2001 |
If someone did what most would consider not sane and drove a Ferrari 15,000 miles a year, could the miles between minors/majors be extended? Of course, still have fluid changes at 3,000 miles. |