| Author | Message | ||
| Mark (Markg)
Member Username: Markg Post Number: 264 Registered: 2-2001 |
I had a Saturn SL1 4dr - made my '82 GTSi seem fast.... | ||
| Omar Hameed Butt (Auraraptor)
New member Username: Auraraptor Post Number: 5 Registered: 9-2002 |
IMO BMW 760Li...I love my 750iL, but the 760 gets 80 more hp  and .6 more diplacemnt | ||
| Fred (Iluv4res)
Junior Member Username: Iluv4res Post Number: 133 Registered: 8-2002 |
Here's the list of 35 luxury cars. Take your pick. http://carpoint.msn.com/advice/windowshop.aspx?contentid=2899&src=Luxury%20Cars | ||
| Frank Parker (Parkerfe)
Intermediate Member Username: Parkerfe Post Number: 1383 Registered: 9-2001 |
Yea, for my daily driver it is and will be an M5. I had an e34 M5 and now have an e39 M5 with a deposit on the new V10 SMG M5 which should be out in 2004. My wife wants a little bigger back seat so I'll most likely go with the MB S Class. | ||
| ross koller (Ross)
Member Username: Ross Post Number: 341 Registered: 3-2002 |
oliver, does the clk430 have seatbelts for the rear middle seat? or is it an optional thing you can get put in by the dealer? have been looking at that car for the future but never sea any visible belts. | ||
| Oliver Cagle (Ocagle)
New member Username: Ocagle Post Number: 35 Registered: 10-2001 |
We have been MB owners almost forever. Had C280's, CLK 430, 300SD, 500SEL, 500SL, 300D, 300E 5 Speed, SLK230, C230 and currently C320, C230 and S500. For my money the CLK 430 was rocket with great lines and holds 5 snugly. The S500 also holds its own and very comfortable and will handle the road very well when asked to. The C320 also comfortable and performs super and holds 5. The new model is tricked up a little more than ours. I have not checked out the new S or the E class, but it looks great. Don't forget MB pays for all your maintenace up to 50,000 miles and we get free loan cars in CA when they are in for service. My vote is MB, it just depends on how much money you want to spend. I've had BMW's, but they just weren't there for me and I did have a little trouble. Have two friends who have the M5's and they run like a stripped ass ape. Good luck. | ||
| Tenney (Tenney)
Junior Member Username: Tenney Post Number: 241 Registered: 2-2001 |
S55. Though forthcoming supercharged car may make Dino of current model. | ||
| Ernesto (T88power)
Member Username: T88power Post Number: 663 Registered: 2-2001 |
Audi RS6 Ernesto | ||
| Tyler (Bahiaau)
Member Username: Bahiaau Post Number: 366 Registered: 12-2001 |
Frank, since you have an M5 in the stable I would suggest the Jag XJR or a slightly used Bentley Arnage. Nothing quite like the British saloons. If you require a german coachbuilder get the S500 with the sport package. | ||
| Najib Amanullah (Najib)
Junior Member Username: Najib Post Number: 199 Registered: 4-2001 |
Bruce I would classify the M5 as the best sports saloon - even a Ferrari killer. The Lexus is a very competent and comfortable, if a little bland car. I personally do not look for the highest performance in a family luxury saloon. It should be quick but the key word is LUXURY. I dont think the new 7 series shape does it any favours. So if Frank already owns an M5, he might not want another one. But then again.... | ||
| bruce wellington (Bws88tr)
Member Username: Bws88tr Post Number: 919 Registered: 4-2002 |
najib my 2 cents...there is nothing wrong with the japanese lexus and infiniti...but, as far as my own opinion goes, the best luxury,street car out there is the bmw m5....nothing compares to that, with MB running 2nd.. REGARDS, BRUCE | ||
| Najib Amanullah (Najib)
Junior Member Username: Najib Post Number: 198 Registered: 4-2001 |
Japanese and American are out. Which leaves European manufacturers. Who in your opinion make the most desirable cars out of these possible "luxury" saloon car makers: MB BMW Audi VW Renault Citroen Peugeot Saab Volvo Jaguar MG Alfa Romeo The choice is fairly limited if you come to think of it. The Jags look more like a hearse or London Cab than a luxury saloon. The Alfas are attractive but mostly front wheel drive and unreliable. Which only leaves the BMW and MB as true luxury saloons. Moreover, your wife probably wont be looking to outgun every boy racer at the lights. If price was my worry, I'd go for a slightly used MB and save a small fortune on initial depreciation. | ||
| Joseph Furer (Mojo)
New member Username: Mojo Post Number: 3 Registered: 9-2002 |
You should consider Japanese Lexus ls430 is the nices sedan I have seen. Build Quality top notch Total class. | ||
| Ernesto (T88power)
Member Username: T88power Post Number: 661 Registered: 2-2001 |
I LOVE the G35, and will probably pick up a six-speed coupe soon... If it drives anything like the 350Z which I drove a few weeks ago, then it will be one hell of a car. Ernesto | ||
| Noah Weinberger (Noahweinberger)
New member Username: Noahweinberger Post Number: 4 Registered: 8-2002 |
understand this is Japanese, but the G35 (which I have recently test drove), is verrrrryyyyyy comfortable, and 260 hp makes it pretty peppy. Also under 30k base price, bargain car. Has anyone else had any experience with the G35? | ||
| Kenny Herman (Kennyh)
Member Username: Kennyh Post Number: 384 Registered: 8-2001 |
The Saab 9'5 Aero could possibly be the coolest 5 seater under 50k- its an amazing looking (subjective obviously), reliable car that you don't see everyday. | ||
| Michael Yurinko (Gage)
New member Username: Gage Post Number: 34 Registered: 8-2002 |
The new Saab 9-5 is very nice. Seating 5 might be tough though. I have a 1999 9-3 and very happy with it. I've driven the 9-5's and their sweet. Nice pick up. | ||
| Frank Parker (Parkerfe)
Intermediate Member Username: Parkerfe Post Number: 1379 Registered: 9-2001 |
According to the specs published by MB and BMW, the interior of the MB E class is considerably smaller than the BMW 5 series. And, I don't find Cadillac much competition to a BMW or MB nor do I find BMW and MB trendy cars. In fact, they are the staple of modern performance sedans. | ||
| John Delvac (Johndelvac)
Junior Member Username: Johndelvac Post Number: 91 Registered: 11-2001 |
I would strongly consider the VW Passat with the W8 engine. It comes with all of the toys standard & lists for about $42K. The W12 is not available yet. If you have more money, go for the Audi A8 or S8. I really like the M5. But I love the MB E55 AMG. I don't care about shifting gears in a sedan. | ||
| Najib Amanullah (Najib)
Junior Member Username: Najib Post Number: 197 Registered: 4-2001 |
Wait for the new facelifted S350 with a 3.7 liter engine. It is very nicely made and is quite brisk (7.6 secs). I don't think the E class is smaller than a BMW 5 series for interior space though. They are deceptively sleek. | ||
| ross koller (Ross)
Member Username: Ross Post Number: 334 Registered: 3-2002 |
does it have to be a sedan? if you need the 5 seats and you already have an m5, my choice would be an e55 station wagon. great hauling capacity and fantastic performance. very subtle as well so you/she won't attract a lot of negative attention, especially from the boys with radar guns. | ||
| Dan Patel (Dpatel)
New member Username: Dpatel Post Number: 3 Registered: 9-2002 |
How about the new AFFORDABLE (smaller) Bently that is coming out? | ||
| Ernesto (T88power)
Member Username: T88power Post Number: 657 Registered: 2-2001 |
Cadillac is indeed the American auto manufacturer offering the most improved products, from the CTS to the new RX-like SUV to the new convertible. However, they are still ages behind Lexus, BMW, Audi and Mercedes in almost every category. The STS is a complete, front-wheel-drive joke. Ernesto | ||
| Edward Gault (Irfgt)
Intermediate Member Username: Irfgt Post Number: 2039 Registered: 2-2001 |
If you overlook what Cadillac has to offer you are depriving yourself of some worthy competition to the fad and trendy cars. Take a look, you'll be surprised. | ||
| 89TCab (Jmg)
Member Username: Jmg Post Number: 268 Registered: 9-2001 |
We have the Jaguar VDP s/c, highly recommend. Highs - lots and lots of power, comfort and the ride is perfect for cruising. Backseat space is out of this world. Goes great in the snow with snow tires, not so great with all season. Lows - space utilization will drive you crazy! The trunk looks large until you put much of anything in it. (We had trouble packing for a 5 day ski trip *without ski equipment* with two kids.) Make sure that you can live with this.) Two large suitcases will not fit... The next generation is just around the corner, early pictures suggest the same lines with lower weight and better space. We will be trading in to get this when it comes out as the car is a delight. - JMG PS, will hold 5 easily in VDP but middle rear is not as comfortable as others. | ||
| BobD (Bobd)
Member Username: Bobd Post Number: 652 Registered: 3-2001 |
Geez Frank, you've shot down the Lexus and Infinity. You don't like the styling of the new BMW 7-series. The Audi and Jag's rear seats aren't big enough to seat five. And you feel SUVs are too big and impractical. Sounds like you're down to a Lincoln Towncar with a vinyl top and the gold package. Hey, if you get one of these, will you add a couple Scudi shields on the front fenders and post a pic for us? :-) | ||
| Andrew Menasce (Amenasce)
Member Username: Amenasce Post Number: 252 Registered: 10-2001 |
The outgoing XJR has really small rear seats ..You could fit two adults max . Great car otherwise . Dont know if the new one will have more legroom..It looks bigger though. | ||
| Andrew Menasce (Amenasce)
Member Username: Amenasce Post Number: 251 Registered: 10-2001 |
The outgoing XJR have really small rear seats ..You could fit two adults max . Great car otherwise . Dont know if the new one will have more legroom..It looks bigger though. | ||
| Andrew Menasce (Amenasce)
Junior Member Username: Amenasce Post Number: 250 Registered: 10-2001 |
What about the new Jag XJR with 400 hp ? | ||
| Frank Parker (Parkerfe)
Intermediate Member Username: Parkerfe Post Number: 1377 Registered: 9-2001 |
E Class is smaller than my M5 and it is already too small for her needs. | ||
| Ken Thomas (Future328driver)
Junior Member Username: Future328driver Post Number: 180 Registered: 12-2001 |
Frank, I just bought an MB E55 which is a little smaller than the S class, but seats 5 comfortably with great performance. The S class is bigger, but I think you might end up paying more for the S class with less performance than the E55. Also, I believe that 2002 is the last year for E55s so wheeling and dealing with MB might be easier. | ||
| bruce wellington (Bws88tr)
Member Username: Bws88tr Post Number: 902 Registered: 4-2002 |
how about the cadilac sts,,it looks beautiful, with the northstar 32v,,any input on that?? | ||
| Fred (Iluv4res)
Junior Member Username: Iluv4res Post Number: 120 Registered: 8-2002 |
Since you excluded Japan (Lexus LS 430), I think the best all around car would be the MB S-Class. Not my personal taste, however, another option would be a Cadillac. | ||
| Hubert Otlik (Hugh)
Junior Member Username: Hugh Post Number: 221 Registered: 1-2002 |
Frank, Go for either the a4/a6 avant; great cars. | ||
| TomD (Tifosi)
Intermediate Member Username: Tifosi Post Number: 1396 Registered: 9-2001 |
I don't think the A6 and S6 are big enough for 5 adults, maybe 4 and a kid | ||
| Harlan Mott (Hmott3)
Junior Member Username: Hmott3 Post Number: 198 Registered: 12-2001 |
I would say an Audi all the way .. either an S8, A8, S6 avant or A6 avant. The S6 Avant is a station wagon with 340hp and 310lb of torque. | ||
| Frank Parker (Parkerfe)
Intermediate Member Username: Parkerfe Post Number: 1374 Registered: 9-2001 |
The Maybach is a little out of my price range. | ||
| Fred (Iluv4res)
Junior Member Username: Iluv4res Post Number: 119 Registered: 8-2002 |
How about the new Maybach? | ||
| Frank Parker (Parkerfe)
Intermediate Member Username: Parkerfe Post Number: 1373 Registered: 9-2001 |
No SUVS ! They are the biggest fraud ever pulled on the American consumer and I will not be pulled into it. There big, ugly, perform poorly, guzzle gas and are of no use to 99.99% of the population. Oh yea, did I say thet were ugly ? If not,they are, ugly that is ! | ||
| Adam Goldman '86 TR (Icnsltmfg)
Member Username: Icnsltmfg Post Number: 407 Registered: 8-2001 |
The S430 is a good choice, and not bad on lease $1000 / month no money down. The A8 is great, but not real exciting looking. The Jag is very nice looking, but I cannot stand driving or sitting in it ( my mother has driven them for years ). I just find it cramped even on the VP version. Go for the new Range Rover. But the MB is prob the way to go. | ||
| TomD (Tifosi)
Intermediate Member Username: Tifosi Post Number: 1393 Registered: 9-2001 |
how about the audi the A8's rear seat is huge and lots of leg room. all aluminum design | ||
| Frank Parker (Parkerfe)
Intermediate Member Username: Parkerfe Post Number: 1372 Registered: 9-2001 |
It would get her an M5 to match mine before i would consider the E class. She needs more room in the rear seat than either of those offer. | ||
| Noelrp (Noelrp)
Junior Member Username: Noelrp Post Number: 65 Registered: 8-2001 |
The S-class is nice esp. the upcoming S600, twin-turbo V12. How about the new E-class. The performance specs of the E500 is not bad either. The only caveat is it's new (you are the prototype driver). | ||
| Martin (Miami348ts)
Advanced Member Username: Miami348ts Post Number: 2848 Registered: 5-2001 |
A8 what a wonderful car! Wolf in a sheap skin! | ||
| TomD (Tifosi)
Intermediate Member Username: Tifosi Post Number: 1392 Registered: 9-2001 |
five comfortably? does audi still make the A8 or S8. MB's are so expensive relative to comparables. | ||
| Frank Parker (Parkerfe)
Intermediate Member Username: Parkerfe Post Number: 1370 Registered: 9-2001 |
I'm looking to buy a new 4 door sedan for my wife. It must seat five comfortably and can not be made in Japan. I don't like the looks of the new BMW 745 so that's out. I'm thinking MB S Class or Jaquar XJ8 Vanden Plas or Vanden Plas supercharged. Does anyone have any experience with either of these vehivles ? Or, does anyone have any suggestions of others to consider ? |