| Author | Message | ||
| Martin (Miami348ts)
Advanced Member Username: Miami348ts Post Number: 2869 Registered: 5-2001 |
That is not true Ernesto, my religious question has attracted a lot of post and courious eyes, right guys? | ||
| J. Grande (Jay)
Member Username: Jay Post Number: 559 Registered: 10-2001 |
Sorry I offended anyone by posting in the wrong section, Sheesh! I never even noticed an off topic section until now. Only one way to settle this...call the commission of the 5 families for a sit down! | ||
| Ernesto (T88power)
Member Username: T88power Post Number: 659 Registered: 2-2001 |
People are not going to use the "Off Topic" Section, simply because it will not attract as many eyeballs and responses. Ernesto | ||
| Dave (Maranelloman)
Member Username: Maranelloman Post Number: 409 Registered: 1-2002 |
Mr. Doody is right. | ||
| bruce wellington (Bws88tr)
Member Username: Bws88tr Post Number: 910 Registered: 4-2002 |
JEWISH THING DOODY...  | ||
| Martin (Miami348ts)
Advanced Member Username: Miami348ts Post Number: 2867 Registered: 5-2001 |
Its a christian thing Doody !  | ||
| Mr. Doody (Doody)
Member Username: Doody Post Number: 471 Registered: 11-2001 |
i thought we had an off-topic section? it'd be very cool if people used it! doody. | ||
| Lawrence Coppari (Lawrence)
Member Username: Lawrence Post Number: 275 Registered: 4-2002 |
Two of my grandparents were born in Sicily. My other two grandparents were born in Naples. I don't think the show does disservice to anyone. It is entertaining. I enjoy it. People are far too thin skinned these days. Ethnic jokes are among the funniest. Ethnicity carries predispositions. | ||
| bruce wellington (Bws88tr)
Member Username: Bws88tr Post Number: 909 Registered: 4-2002 |
dave i agree with you 100%, next they will be telling us "the godfather" was a terrible movie with ethnic slurrs... btw, i loved " all in the family" and "sanford and son", im sure i will get bashed for those shows,, my best friend growing up in LONG ISLAND, NY WAS ITALIAN AND HIS FATHER OWNED 2 GARBAGE COMPANYS IN THE BRONX...I SAW AND HEARD NOTHING AS FAR AS THE "M" WORD.. BEING USED OR PRESENTED.. its entertainment, thats all.... | ||
| Martin (Miami348ts)
Advanced Member Username: Miami348ts Post Number: 2857 Registered: 5-2001 |
Isn't this an off-topic? | ||
| Dave (Maranelloman)
Member Username: Maranelloman Post Number: 407 Registered: 1-2002 |
Come ON, y'all! It's the movies! The Sopranos is supposed to be a fantasy--entertainment!!!--not a documentary. Cracks me up when all the self-righteous talking heads get all huffy about some group's "depcition" on film, when they need to realize that it is supposed to be fantasy/fiction/entertainmemt, and NOT a documentary. After all, are all Arabs terrorists? All rappers misogynistic thugs? All southerners ignorant rednecks? All Germans Nazis? All lawyers noble & virtuous? All corporate executives villains? etc etc etc. C'mon, folks: have some perspective here. | ||
| TomD (Tifosi)
Intermediate Member Username: Tifosi Post Number: 1398 Registered: 9-2001 |
my father in law refuses to watch the sopranos | ||
| ross koller (Ross)
Member Username: Ross Post Number: 333 Registered: 3-2002 |
i am an italophile from way back (married one, cook like one, lived there, drive their cars etc). i also appreciate some of the mobster movies. i also watch the sopranos because i think its well done. but one of the reasons i like the tv show is because they have removed the romantic or glamourous aspects of the mob, to leave only the reality that the characters are, for the most part, low-lifes leaching off the rest of the community. i like that they show how the same people shooting each other then go grocery shopping or go to their kids ball game; thats realistic. that they don't glorify their seeminess is good for debunking the mafia's mystique. however, because of this the show is not good for the italian american image in the usa. it does nothing to play up the myriad of positive aspects of the country or the courageous and ambitious immigrants who made it in america. imho | ||
| Modified348ts (Modman)
Member Username: Modman Post Number: 324 Registered: 11-2001 |
Interesting as one of the actors for Sopranos stopped by my shop in a black 355 with yellow fender badges to ask for directions to Granite Bay, they happen to be filming in our area. | ||
| JPR22 (Cavallini)
New member Username: Cavallini Post Number: 7 Registered: 6-2002 |
Jay, that's just slightly better. ; ) Film and TV have been largely far below par, both thematically and in plot. At bottom, however, I could care less. I have never taken cues from pop culture on how to live or seen it as a reflection of my life. It puzzles me that so many Americans do. | ||
| JPR22 (Cavallini)
New member Username: Cavallini Post Number: 6 Registered: 6-2002 |
Just slightly better. ; ) Film and TV have been largely far below par, both thematically and in plot. At bottom, however, I could care less. I have never taken cues from pop culture on how to live. It puzzles me that so many Americans do. | ||
| J. Grande (Jay)
Member Username: Jay Post Number: 557 Registered: 10-2001 |
Okay, how about "Boys in the Hood"? Well done, but not your average Afro-American family. | ||
| JPR22 (Cavallini)
New member Username: Cavallini Post Number: 5 Registered: 6-2002 |
Jay, maybe the Italians I've known were mafioso and had very good covers. LOL I failed to mention, however, that the Sopranos is extremely well done. The Jefferson's, Good Times, et al were pathetic. | ||
| J. Grande (Jay)
Member Username: Jay Post Number: 555 Registered: 10-2001 |
Johnathan that is an excellent point. My wife is black (from the West Indies) and she feels the same way. I don't judge her family according to George Jefferson and they don't judge me like Tony Soprano. I have to disagree with the thought that mobsters don't act like that in real life. Ever heard Henry Hill give an interview? or ever read any of the former FBI agents books? They portray them to a T (that is if we are to believe the FBI). | ||
| Anthony Randazzo (Antroc)
New member Username: Antroc Post Number: 18 Registered: 4-2002 |
I am Italian also, my father is from Sicily. I love watching the Sopranos. I don't think it hurts the Italian image, most people know its Hollywood, but they do show little things that all Italian families do, not the Mafia part. Ed, I am also an auto mechanic and I hate when people call us grease monkeys, I rather somebody say I was Connected instead. | ||
| Edward Gault (Irfgt)
Intermediate Member Username: Irfgt Post Number: 2040 Registered: 2-2001 |
If you went by what the media portrays, all Auto Mechanics are a bunch of Redneck, greasy haired, smelly, toothless, knuckle dragging, ripoff artists. I take offense to the portrayal as I am not smelly. | ||
| Anthony Acunzo (Yank05)
Junior Member Username: Yank05 Post Number: 91 Registered: 8-2001 |
I am very much Italian too. My parents and many of my Italian friends love the Sopranos and most mafia-themed movies. They do not think it is a diservice either. I do not really watch TV (except for the Yankees) so I can't say that I have seen much of the show. The mafia thing never really bothered me, but now I am kind of fed up of watching a movie made about Italian mobsters who say the F-word every 5 seconds. I think in a way it does do somewhat of a diservice in the way people view Italians (especially in my area (CT/NYC). Many times when people find out I am Italian from this area, they crack mafia jokes - all in good fun, of course (and I think it is funny on the surface too). So, what I am trying to say is that many times these movies give some people the wrong impression - which is not good. I do not particularly care for these movies, but others do..to each his own..... Thanks, Anthony "Shoulders" A. | ||
| Johnathan Phillips Rogers (Cavallini)
New member Username: Cavallini Post Number: 3 Registered: 6-2002 |
As an African-American with Sicilian ancestry I don't think the show is any more a reflection of Italian-Americans than The Jefferson's was of African-American. I've never known any Italians who behave that way except on film, just as I've never met an AA who is as absurd as George Jefferson. Hollywood likes its illusions. | ||
| Ricky Nardis (Rickyn_f355)
Junior Member Username: Rickyn_f355 Post Number: 65 Registered: 8-2002 |
I think the Sopranos is a bad depiction of most italian-americans but also a bad depiction of what real mafiosi are. I grew up around a good amount of them here in Westchester and they dont look/act like the Sopranos characters. Me and my friends (all italians) watch the show for laughs. All of us and our parents work hard, dont steal, and pay income taxes! | ||
| Bruno (Originalsinner)
Member Username: Originalsinner Post Number: 561 Registered: 5-2002 |
I think it's bad for Italians also. Most Italians are tenors. | ||
| J. Grande (Jay)
Member Username: Jay Post Number: 554 Registered: 10-2001 |
I'm Italian and I love the Sopranos. I don't think that mafia movies hurt the image of Italians or that it does a diservice to Italians. I was curious about how others on the board feel about it. Actually, all mafia movies in general. |