| Author | Message | ||
| Red Lindell (Redhead)
Junior Member Username: Redhead Post Number: 54 Registered: 12-2001 |
http://www.ferrari-uk.com/parts/worldwide.asp Top line says it all. Once again, your stuck with what you paid for. | ||
| jeff ryerson (Atheyg)
New member Username: Atheyg Post Number: 46 Registered: 8-2002 |
Ferrari has an exclusive agreement with the OEMs for 10 years, so any car older than 10 years IF you can find out the manufacturer will sell you the part, the hard part is finding who made it and what it specificaly was, many times the Auto Maker will scratch out the oems pt no and put their number on it to prevent this All of the parts resellers do their research and find out who they are so what is needed is a parts reference and source guide, but anyone who has all this info knows its worth alot of $ and would probably not give it for free | ||
| magoo (Magoo)
Advanced Member Username: Magoo Post Number: 3163 Registered: 2-2001 |
G.M., Ford, Chyrsler, foreign make cars etc.have had their parts copied and cores remanufactured by the aftermarket jobbers. Too much water under the bridge at this point for Ferrari to put a stop to it. This I don't think will ever happen and thank goodness for the aftermarket guys. | ||
| Martin (Miami348ts)
Advanced Member Username: Miami348ts Post Number: 2913 Registered: 5-2001 |
tried that already!  (with a heavy southern accent "is that some kind of Ford?" | ||
| Hubert Otlik (Hugh)
Junior Member Username: Hugh Post Number: 238 Registered: 1-2002 |
Peter, I don't see it happenening, like Martin said; a waterpump is a waterpump, and a rotor is a rotor, and a great majority of the parts used on modern cars aren't actually 'fabricated' at the factory; eg: waterpump, starters, radiators, alternators, calipers, mc, brake boosters, etc., but they are sourced from a manufacture specializing in those components. Also, a majority of the 'wear items'; eg, rotors, drums, brake pads, fluids, filters, etc., already have 'no-name' aftermarket oem spec alternatives available. Honestly, for a great majority of the items that 'fail' on cars, or have a sort of planned obsolecence, its isn't neccessary to use oem parts, however, some items, in my experience electrical, need to be sourced from the oem manufacture, not neccessarily Ferrari; but, perhaps Bosch, Magneti Marelli, Denso, etc. Martin, Next time you go to Napa, Kragen, or AutoZone for a replacement part for the 348, please take a video camera; I would love to see the counter persons face ..."..you want a uhhh cap and rotor for a what...ferrari..? uhhh..one moment please.." | ||
| '75 308 GT4 (Peter)
Intermediate Member Username: Peter Post Number: 2053 Registered: 12-2000 |
I don't want to stir things up here, but what are the legal ramifications of producing these "bootleg" aftermarket replacement parts? The designs/engineering of the parts I'm sure are copyrighted by Ferrari... Believe me, I'm all for it. I'm cheap and proud of it and where ever I can save a penny, I do. I wish success in even the ventures starting here (caps and rotors), but I'm worried that "someone" may order a cease-and-desist... | ||
| magoo (Magoo)
Advanced Member Username: Magoo Post Number: 3162 Registered: 2-2001 |
If this is true I think it gives the aftermarket more incentive. At least competition has started in the aftermarket business and it has already taken off. It's not like Ferrari is the only supplier of parts and you have to buy theirs. If they try and gouge the public like that their dealers will lose some business to the independents and then listen to the crying. If they were able to put the aftermaket guys out of business and lock up the sale of parts only from them then they could do something, but I don't see that happening. I am sure of all the guys on this site who are DIYs do not knock on a dealers door everytime they need a part or repair. Now those guys who need to go to a dealer for every repair they will have the problem. | ||
| Jason Godsil (Godsil)
Junior Member Username: Godsil Post Number: 134 Registered: 9-2001 |
I have been thinking about this business venture. What would be a popular part? 348 water pump or 355 heads or? I have a friend who owns a great machine shop, just wondering what part would sell well. Thanks. | ||
| Martin (Miami348ts)
Advanced Member Username: Miami348ts Post Number: 2899 Registered: 5-2001 |
A waterpump is a waterpump. At Ferrari those are for the 348 $1700 list retail. I got one from Nicks at $800 and I am sure if you produce them you can do them for $150 and still make a buck selling them for $600. With the price increase these would come to $ 3,000 and you are selling for $ 600, that would be a no-brainer. As for the Ferrari mechanics. I always say that you guys should step away from the F-dealers when it comes to maintaining your cars. It is nutz to go there and have a service done for a 10 year old car. You do not get a penny more when you sell and it was maintained by F of XX than buy Joe Schmo who is known in the Ferrari circles. | ||
| Ron Thomas (Ronsupercar)
Member Username: Ronsupercar Post Number: 336 Registered: 5-2002 |
Yeah, sounds great and all but what about those dealers that will have nothing to do with a car with after market parts.. I can see them saying this and also saying these parts will affect the value of the vehicle in the future.. For your information, I would be any parts for my car if I knew they would work.. I think you should do some serious research and make this happen..... Think of the Millions......... | ||
| Ernie Bonilla (Ernie)
Member Username: Ernie Post Number: 362 Registered: 11-2001 |
Manu I'm with you bro. Let me know when you are ready. | ||
| Rob Lay (Rob328gts)
Board Administrator Username: Rob328gts Post Number: 2279 Registered: 12-2000 |
I'm with Manu. Econ 101 there will be new entrants to the market if a profit opportunity exists. Companies do that for BMW and Porsche parts already, they find out who the OEM supplier was and they get bascially the same exact parts, maybe with a different brand name, but much cheaper. Once demand for parts directly from Ferrari goes down, then they'll have to lower prices if wanting to compete. | ||
| Manu Sachdeva (Manu)
Member Username: Manu Post Number: 449 Registered: 2-2002 |
Wrong - This is an opportunity. Who wants to start a company with me that fabricates replica Ferrari parts? | ||
| William H (Countachxx)
Intermediate Member Username: Countachxx Post Number: 1407 Registered: 2-2001 |
& parts are so cheap now | ||
| TomD (Tifosi)
Intermediate Member Username: Tifosi Post Number: 1431 Registered: 9-2001 |
not surprising - they are business people. Demand is probably fairly inelastic (not to many alternative) so raising the price goes right to the bottom line - oh well - you have to pay to play | ||
| Hans E. Hansen (4re_gt4)
Junior Member Username: 4re_gt4 Post Number: 200 Registered: 4-2002 |
The consequences of this are even worse than they first appear. Higher prices -> less demand. Less demand -> fewer sales. Fewer sales -> excuse to DISCONTINUE low volume parts. | ||
| Mitchel DeFrancis (4re308)
Member Username: 4re308 Post Number: 676 Registered: 6-2001 |
This is the first I've heard of this, and not what I want to hear as I wanted a Boxer or S1 TR for my next car. | ||
| Manu Sachdeva (Manu)
Member Username: Manu Post Number: 448 Registered: 2-2002 |
Doody - mate - 180%????? I haven't been watching FOREX trends in the last few months but I don't think that there has been and 80% movement in rates up OR down in Eurodollar or $/�.... Its Ferrari just robbing people. If I had bought a 412 on the basis that it's a bargain Ferrari I'd probably be crying. This is unbelievable. | ||
| Russ Fairbanks (Russf)
Junior Member Username: Russf Post Number: 56 Registered: 3-2002 |
Ferrari has the wrong business model. With parts prices where they are the company should give the cars away to generate more parts sales. | ||
| Mr. Doody (Doody)
Member Username: Doody Post Number: 485 Registered: 11-2001 |
could this be a currency conversion correction? doody. | ||
| Fred (Iluv4res)
Junior Member Username: Iluv4res Post Number: 138 Registered: 8-2002 |
Uh-oh...... | ||
| James Dixon (Omnadren250)
Member Username: Omnadren250 Post Number: 289 Registered: 7-2001 |
thats pathetic. The parts are already way overpriced as it is. Two years ago Porsche dramtically dropped the prices for parts, particularly for cars that were 6 years old and older. That made maintaining older cars a little more affordable. | ||
| Ron Thomas (Ronsupercar)
Member Username: Ronsupercar Post Number: 335 Registered: 5-2002 |
This may be a problem...... PLease keep us updated as developments arise.. | ||
| Manu Sachdeva (Manu)
Member Username: Manu Post Number: 447 Registered: 2-2002 |
Seriously bad news guys. My inside man has just reported that official Ferrari parts prices are set to rise - in some cases - DRAMATICALLY. How much? Prepare for a shock.... Some parts are set to rise to 180% of their current price!!!! All parts prices are going to rise - some more than others. I honestly don't know whether this only applies to the UK or not, but given what I know about US prices, I certainly wouldn't discount this price rise being an international one. Certainly trying to run an older 12 cylinder is going to become prohibitively expensive. |