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Hans E. Hansen (4re_gt4)
Junior Member
Username: 4re_gt4
Post Number: 205
Registered: 4-2002
| | Posted on Monday, September 30, 2002 - 2:47 pm: | |
A friend has a F355F1 that has had a few problems. Once he was stuck on an on-ramp, and it wouldn't go into gear. He tried everything, ended up calling the dealer on his cell phone. They said that the system can get 'confused' under some circumstances, and - get this - needs to be 'rebooted'. (Disconnect the battery.) The funny part: The guy works for Microsoft. He said he "felt like he was calling Mickeysoft tech support." |
BretM (Bretm)
Advanced Member
Username: Bretm
Post Number: 2685
Registered: 2-2001
| | Posted on Sunday, September 29, 2002 - 7:10 pm: | |
The 355s are less sophisticated than the 360F1, but to be honest the 360s come in more often for F1 problems, although the 355s may have had these problems when they were new (before my automotive time). The 355s are more reliable than the 360s from a shear numbers perspective, and they are a bit easier to work on, in particular engine work. BUT the 360s are faster and more luxorious so it may be worth a little more maintenance.
Although some of you will know that I personally like the traditional manuals, I will give you that in the long run I feel the F1 will be a better trans, as long as you don't eat up clutches with it. The F1 has a lot less seals to leak and parts to break, a LOT less. Plus, fixing the F1s often is a simple (relatively)recalibration which can make it a quick (one again relatively) fix and get the car back in the owner's hands without delay. There are still some bugs though that have to be sorted out as you guys have noted. |
Ernesto (T88power)
Member
Username: T88power
Post Number: 697
Registered: 2-2001
| | Posted on Sunday, September 29, 2002 - 12:28 pm: | |
This seems to be contrary to every opinion I have heard/read, including my own. I have driven a 355F1, and it is pretty good but not nearly as good as teh 360 in almost every aspect. The 355 F1 systems have also been much more problematic...
Ernesto |
Dave Wapinski (Davewapinski)
Member
Username: Davewapinski
Post Number: 355
Registered: 8-2001
| | Posted on Sunday, September 29, 2002 - 12:25 pm: | |
I disagree.
From limited knowledge, it appears that the 360 F1 is not designed and/or built as good as the 355 F1.
I took a test drive in a 355 F1. Shifted like a charm, no problems, and felt totally confortable.
Then immediately took a test drive in a 360 F1. Same route. Minutes apart. 360 F1 stalled out on me starting from a stoplight. Got it restarted. Then next light, wanted to stall out again when starting.
355 F1 had none of these problems.
Dealer said that Ferrari had changed the way the 360 F1 controls the fuel.
If there are quality control issues, it is hard to tell if it is a design or quality control issue.
If a quality control issue, would explain why some have problems and others do not. |
Ernesto (T88power)
Member
Username: T88power
Post Number: 695
Registered: 2-2001
| | Posted on Sunday, September 29, 2002 - 10:45 am: | |
Stalling the car with an F1 gearbox is not F1 "failure". Any manual tranny car will stall if your RPM go too low, F1 included. This happened to me many times during the first months of ownership. On a manual, when it stalls, you turn off the key, depress the clutch, turn it back on, select first, and drive off (a little embarrassed). On an F1, when it stalls, you press the brake and flick both paddles to engage N, turn the ignition off, press brake and restart. Select first and drive off. Most people forget to press the brake and believe that the F1 system will not go into N, and hence will not start. This happened to me on my first week. After two hours I managed to get on my way... I had forgotten to press the brake when the iginition was "on" and believed I had F1 failure. Like anything else, you just have to learn how to use it... Most people dont even bother reading the manual and panic.
Ernesto |
Matt Lemus (Mlemus)
Junior Member
Username: Mlemus
Post Number: 183
Registered: 8-2002
| | Posted on Sunday, September 29, 2002 - 10:22 am: | |
3 weeks ago when my car was in the shop. They had 6 360's. One was only 2 days old. They were all f-1 trans and were in for stuck gears and one needed a new trans for a 3rd gear rattle.
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acw (Acw)
Junior Member
Username: Acw
Post Number: 117
Registered: 2-2002
| | Posted on Saturday, September 28, 2002 - 10:21 pm: | |
I have seen it twice. Once on my previous car. I was turning on a steep drive way and forgot to downshift. The engine stalled and I got the infamous F1 failure. The worst part was that the engine would not automatically switch in neutral before starting so for a minute or so, I thought I would be completely stuck. I eventually turn the key to the last position before ignition and then pressed both paddles to go back in neutral.
The second time was while going in reverse, just after starting the engine...
I would love to learn more about when and why this light comes on. Pretty scary to think the car can stay stuck in gears anywhere.
ACW |
tommy jones (360mode)
New member
Username: 360mode
Post Number: 16
Registered: 9-2002
| | Posted on Saturday, September 28, 2002 - 9:31 pm: | |
i'm no mechanic so i can't explain exactly what my specific problem was but it basically would not shift. based on the dealers reaction, seemed like a fairly common problem. ever since that happened i don't take my foot of the brake when i'm at a light for fear that it won't let me back into first (after it auto shifts into neutral). |