| Author | Message | ||
| Racer 001 (Mr_0011)
Junior Member Username: Mr_0011 Post Number: 218 Registered: 3-2002 |
Now THAT looks great! I love it.  | ||
| Ernesto (T88power)
Member Username: T88power Post Number: 742 Registered: 2-2001 |
Is this clear engine cover factory from Lambo or aftermarket?  | ||
| Dave Penhale (Dapper)
Junior Member Username: Dapper Post Number: 229 Registered: 4-2002 |
Sorry but its gonna take more than that teeny weeny bit of video to whet my appetite for one of those ugly mothers. Not being one of those who has to have the knigs new clothes and the most expensive I'd still rather an F50 | ||
| Andrew Menasce (Amenasce)
Member Username: Amenasce Post Number: 271 Registered: 10-2001 |
oh no ! an Enzo i that fucking stupid movie ? There goes the mystique ! | ||
| Rijk Rietveld (Rijk365gtb4)
Junior Member Username: Rijk365gtb4 Post Number: 60 Registered: 1-2002 |
This week there is an Enzo on exhibit in the Armory on 23rd street in NYC. I have not been there, I will go tomorrow and report back. | ||
| D B (Threesixty)
Junior Member Username: Threesixty Post Number: 69 Registered: 8-2002 |
You are correct, there will be a red Enzo in the new Charlie's Angles movie! I had a picture of it, but I can't find it now. | ||
| Mitchell L. Davidson (Jussumfastgi)
Junior Member Username: Jussumfastgi Post Number: 229 Registered: 4-2002 |
What are you doing watching Extra? lol. ;) | ||
| Red Lindell (Redhead)
Junior Member Username: Redhead Post Number: 56 Registered: 12-2001 |
OK--On a limb on this one...I was watching one of those nightly hollywood shows, like Extra or something along those lines...and Demi Moore is in the Charlies Angels movie. They showed a shot-freeze frame-of her on set, standing in front of what LOOKED LIKE--not saying for sure--a red Enzo. Remember in the 1st one Cameron Diaz drove a red 360M, so, maybe there already is one in the US...They where shooting in Malibu. | ||
| David (Supraoz)
Junior Member Username: Supraoz Post Number: 144 Registered: 9-2001 |
Hey Barton, Don't worry, going to send you a lot of photos for the next Tifosi Got your message, give me a ring. -D | ||
| Mitchell L. Davidson (Jussumfastgi)
Junior Member Username: Jussumfastgi Post Number: 228 Registered: 4-2002 |
Bah, still (much) slower than the Koenigsegg for the same price. ;) | ||
| Barton Workman (Bartonworkman)
New member Username: Bartonworkman Post Number: 21 Registered: 3-2002 |
Nice pics DJ, you've been holding out on us! According to reliable sources, the Enzo should make its debut in America in the Spring but is being tipped to make its first appearance at Cavallino. BHW | ||
| Manu Sachdeva (Manu)
Member Username: Manu Post Number: 456 Registered: 2-2002 |
TAKO - Get the Enzo!! GET THE ENZOOOOOOOOO!!!!!! Yellow/Red/Black - take your pick! (you'll be doing a diservice to everyone on the chat board if you don't!) The car looks F**KING AWESOME. | ||
| TAKO (Tako)
Junior Member Username: Tako Post Number: 75 Registered: 4-2002 |
Don't make me drool anymore plz. | ||
| Racer 001 (Mr_0011)
Junior Member Username: Mr_0011 Post Number: 208 Registered: 3-2002 |
All of the panels are carbon fiber correct? | ||
| John A. Suarez (Futureowner)
Junior Member Username: Futureowner Post Number: 153 Registered: 3-2002 |
David, Looks like the kit car companies have got a hold on Enzo panels!!! LOL | ||
| David (Supraoz)
Junior Member Username: Supraoz Post Number: 143 Registered: 9-2001 |
Also saw this while driving around. DB, while at the factory they were working on Enzo #s 11-26. I'm guessing the 1st 10 are being or have been delivered so a couple should be in the states by now.  | ||
| D B (Threesixty)
Junior Member Username: Threesixty Post Number: 67 Registered: 8-2002 |
I'll ask for the fourth time, when are the first Enzo's arriving in the US? | ||
| Ernesto (T88power)
Member Username: T88power Post Number: 721 Registered: 2-2001 |
The yellow enzo looks great... driving one has to be simply amazing. Can't wait to see lap times compared to the McLaren F1. Pretty sure the Enzo will come out on top - at least I hope so. It would be much too embarrassing for Ferrari if it didnt. Ernesto | ||
| Ernesto (T88power)
Member Username: T88power Post Number: 720 Registered: 2-2001 |
I know Eddie Bello (he has been in PR many times), and have seen his car many times. His Porsche is not a street Porsche by any stretch of the imagination, but he puts out quite a show. I agree with you on the 70mph roll scenario for the Supra. That is all I race, 70mph+ to top speed, because of traction problems. Ernesto | ||
| allan fiedler (Allanlambo)
Junior Member Username: Allanlambo Post Number: 60 Registered: 6-2002 |
david, that enzo looks awesome in yellow! db 360, again, not doubting the cars ability to run those times, watch the video, what do you see, drag slicks, and race gas. | ||
| David (Supraoz)
Junior Member Username: Supraoz Post Number: 142 Registered: 9-2001 |
I finally saw the Enzo last week in person cruising around Maranello. Here a couple pics. PS: I just dyno'd 623rwhp on my Supra Saturday I believe SW's old Supra ran 9s all day long with complete interior, a/c, etc. That car is more reliable than any exotic car but I'll still take the Ferrari or Lambo over it. No flames please    | ||
| allan fiedler (Allanlambo)
Junior Member Username: Allanlambo Post Number: 59 Registered: 6-2002 |
ernesto, you should clean the wax out of your ears. i never said a supra could not run in the 8's. or 9's. i said it could not be done without drag slicks. unibody chasis, does not mean full interiored. these cars are completely gutted, no a/c, no radio, no nothing. you can not drive a car on the street with race slicks on,(not legally). as far as race gas, im sure you run it in your car all the time, but the fact remains you cant pump it at the pumps, you must put it in jugs and take it with you. because it is meant only for the race track, and not the street. so ill leave you with a final scenario, if you were in Arizona, where i am, and you ran out of race gas, and the nearest gas station selling race gas was a 45 minute drive, youd have to pump in 91 octane. to legally drive a car in arizona, youd have to be on street tires, not drag slicks. so now with normal pump gas, and street tires, how far down on power do you think you'd be? my guess, around 200hp. could you put 600hp to the ground, my guess.. no. thats why all the supra guys want to go from a 70mph roll. Im not bashing the supras in any way, i like them alot, and it is amazing the power you can pull from them reliably. Ive had porsches that would cream my diablo, 714 rear wheel hp, in 2500pds, at 1.2 bar on pump gas. also if your in New jersey, youve no doubt seen Eddie Bello, who ran an 8.80@168mph on drag radials, not slicks. | ||
| A.Tonokaboni (Senna1994)
New member Username: Senna1994 Post Number: 8 Registered: 9-2002 |
I thought this post was about the Enzo. Why is it we end up chatting about Drag Racing? When was a Ferrari ever mean't for that Purpose. By the way I would take a Enzo over anyother car except perhaps the McLaren F1. | ||
| Ernesto (T88power)
Member Username: T88power Post Number: 718 Registered: 2-2001 |
Allan, I'm going to stop talking right now. I have seen these things with my own eyes. I go to englishtown, atco and other tracks at least three times a year. I have seen it with my own eyes. Either I am a liar or I am smoking crack, as you say. Because of course you cant be wrong, because you keep a close eye on the import scene. Here is a link. http://www.powerhouseracing.com/mvpsupra/mvpsupra.htm This Supra, built by Jarrett in Texas, ran 8.98 with slicks. Full unibody, plus addons required by the track to run. This was more than a year ago. I have seen others go faster and quicker. I run race gas on the street in my Supra all the time, does that mean that its no longer a street car? Please... Just because it doesn't appear in Turbo Magazine doesnt mean it doesnt exist. Come to the local track in PR, and you will be very surprised at what you see (that doesnt make the mags). I can keep posting links to these cars, but whats the point? You are now insulting on a personal level. Ernesto | ||
| D B (Threesixty)
Junior Member Username: Threesixty Post Number: 66 Registered: 8-2002 |
Allan, what do you think about this one? With video as well. http://www.to4r.com/members/sw.html This was his old Supra, he now has one over 1000HP. | ||
| allan fiedler (Allanlambo)
Junior Member Username: Allanlambo Post Number: 58 Registered: 6-2002 |
ernesto, get off the crack pipe. i follow the import scene very closely. no supra has ever ran under 9.0 full bodied and full interiored, and none run a 9.0 on drag radials. you are right about exotics not being designed for drag racing, but neither are supras. can you say DRAG SLICKS? [img]http://store5.yimg.com/I/supra_1708_10621662[/img] also, once you use race gas, its not a street car anymore, as you are not allowed to run race gas on the street. in a real world street situation, on street tires and pump gas, supras lose worlds of power without the ability to crank that boost. | ||
| Ernesto (T88power)
Member Username: T88power Post Number: 717 Registered: 2-2001 |
I never said anthing about being on pump gas. The Supras I have seen in New Jersey and Miami, and been documented on various magazines, had FULL interiors, FULL body, STOCK chassis, on shaved BFG Drag Radial STREET tires and also with slicks running less than 9.0. At least two street Supras are running 9.0 with 900+rwhp. I don't know how else to say it. I guess you just dont want to understand it, or accept it. A drag race between a heavily modded Diablo and a heavily modded Supra, my money is on the Supra anytime. I have yet to see a Diablo perform well at a drag race, track or street. Just like I havent seen any 360's or TR's do well, so dont take it personal. It is a very different ball game, a game for which these cars were not designed. Ernesto | ||
| allan fiedler (Allanlambo)
Junior Member Username: Allanlambo Post Number: 57 Registered: 6-2002 |
ernesto, i am very happy with what i drive, i wouldnt have it any other way. but i do like all sorts of cars, supras being one of them. i am merely pointing out that you dont give all the info. a supra, on pump gas, will not make anywhere near the power it does on race gas, and the 9.0 sec cars are on slicks, with fully gutted race interiors. I am not saying that a Supra cannot beat my lambo, because i know there are supras that will. just as i know of porsches, that will beat those supras, and so forth. your only completely true statement, "there is always someone faster" Your comment of"the supra will win hands" down is unsubstantiated. by the way, my car weighed 3322pds, with gas, verified. | ||
| D B (Threesixty)
Junior Member Username: Threesixty Post Number: 65 Registered: 8-2002 |
When are the first Enzo's arriving in the US? | ||
| Ernesto (T88power)
Member Username: T88power Post Number: 716 Registered: 2-2001 |
Get it TAKO!!!! Ernesto | ||
| TAKO (Tako)
Junior Member Username: Tako Post Number: 74 Registered: 4-2002 |
I have three offers now for ENZO. Still thinking. | ||
| Racer 001 (Mr_0011)
Junior Member Username: Mr_0011 Post Number: 206 Registered: 3-2002 |
lol sorry Tako... I think the next big trend from Japanese auto makers is cubic inches that's why I think the next Supra will have more meat. If you don't believe me look at the 350Z... .5L more displacement that the 300ZX and no turbo... | ||
| Ernesto (T88power)
Member Username: T88power Post Number: 714 Registered: 2-2001 |
I hope it still has a turbo... maybe a TT V8 with 450hp? I have heard too many rumors and read too many magazine articles on it. It would be a shame to lose the 6 inline turbo, so easy to crank it up to 800hp, and not too much trouble to take it up to 1,100 hp. I guess we shall see... I hear the next NSX will have a V8 or V10 with 400+ hp. I hope so, because it seriously needs it. Poor TAKO, we hijacked his thread! Ernesto | ||
| Racer 001 (Mr_0011)
Junior Member Username: Mr_0011 Post Number: 205 Registered: 3-2002 |
Ernesto... I hear the next Supra might have more cylinders... from 8-12... do you know anything about it? Will the next Supra, or it's sucessor, still have a turbo? | ||
| Ernesto (T88power)
Member Username: T88power Post Number: 713 Registered: 2-2001 |
My full-bodied Supra weighs 3,440 lbs, verified and weighed. I know Saad Saad and Guilly. Just because they cant do it doesnt mean it hasnt been done. SEVERAL Supras have run 9.0 in the 1/4 mile, with stock bodies. I make 810rwhp, and I can "only" run 10.66. Does that mean it cant be done? I have broken enought driveshafts to stop trying. But, I have seen it with my own eyes, so... You dont have to constantly defend your car, whatever you drive. Just be happy with it. There will always be someone faster... Ernesto | ||
| allan fiedler (Allanlambo)
Junior Member Username: Allanlambo Post Number: 56 Registered: 6-2002 |
ernesto, first of all, keep dreaming that your supra would win hands down. if both cars are roughly 800hp, my car weighs just over 3300pds, making it roughly 2-300pds lighter than your supra. my car also has a much better gearing and traction advantage. also, i have met Saad Saad, who has one of the fastest supras in the world and he cant break into the 9's.no, full bodied, street driving, street tired supra will run 9's. nor can you get that kind of power out of any supra unless you run race gas. also, Guily, who also has one of the fastest supras, makes 800 rear wheel hp, and his best is 10.41@ 139 | ||
| Racer 001 (Mr_0011)
Junior Member Username: Mr_0011 Post Number: 204 Registered: 3-2002 |
I'd take 456M GT bi-color over a 550 Maranello myself... Glad some people realize speed isn't everything. | ||
| Ernesto (T88power)
Member Username: T88power Post Number: 712 Registered: 2-2001 |
Good for you TAKO! PS ... LOVE LOVE LOVE the ENZO.... cant wait to see/hear one in person... I would take it over a Supra as well... :-) practically any Ferrari, as a matter of fact... Ernesto | ||
| TAKO (Tako)
Junior Member Username: Tako Post Number: 73 Registered: 4-2002 |
Hey guys, we are talking about ENZO!!! I don't want to have 900hp supra even if it's cheaper than ENZO | ||
| Racer 001 (Mr_0011)
Junior Member Username: Mr_0011 Post Number: 202 Registered: 3-2002 |
Went to the Koenig site... the 800 or so bhp Twin Turbo F50 runs 8.0's... Crazy... | ||
| Racer 001 (Mr_0011)
Junior Member Username: Mr_0011 Post Number: 201 Registered: 3-2002 |
9's? 900 rwhp?! How much boost?  Are they gutted? A MTI moded ZO6 (belongs to NoMercy) can do 9's (high 9's I think) but it doesn't have that much hp... It also has a custom Carravaggio interior and a custom sound system... | ||
| Ernesto (T88power)
Member Username: T88power Post Number: 711 Registered: 2-2001 |
I have seen street 900rwhp supras on bfgoodrich drag street tires run 9.0 in the 1/4 mile, and keep pushing after that. I dont think a diablo, or any street ferrari for that matter, has a chance. I'd still take the Ferrari though, so this is not a flame. Ernesto | ||
| Racer 001 (Mr_0011)
Junior Member Username: Mr_0011 Post Number: 200 Registered: 3-2002 |
From a roll... but from a standing start? | ||
| Ernesto (T88power)
Member Username: T88power Post Number: 709 Registered: 2-2001 |
Supra would win hands down... :-) Ernesto | ||
| Racer 001 (Mr_0011)
Junior Member Username: Mr_0011 Post Number: 197 Registered: 3-2002 |
It's fun seeing grown people that can afford exotics argue over a wing through the internet... BTW, a T88 Supra vs. moded Diablo w/ NOS would be an interesting race... *hint hint* Anyway... The Murci is awesome. I saw a yellow(ish) one next to a Spider last night near an Italian resturant (Italian get together?). It's much more clean looking than a Diablo IMHO. Still, as I look at the 360 next to it, their is no mistaking it's a Ferrari. Looks supurb even next to the Lambo. Silver goes so well with the 360. As for the Enzo... I'd rather have one Enzo than any other exotic or sports car. If it would mean, family car, SUV, and Enzo, then so be it. | ||
| allan fiedler (Allanlambo)
Junior Member Username: Allanlambo Post Number: 53 Registered: 6-2002 |
bret, thats a pretty misinformed statement, as anyone who works on lambos takes the rear trunk lid off to have access. whether or not there is a wing bolted to it makes no difference, 2 bolts and the whole thing comes right off, takes about 2 minutes. | ||
| BretM (Bretm)
Advanced Member Username: Bretm Post Number: 2693 Registered: 2-2001 |
I would never put a wing on a Lambo because without a wing they are a whore to work on anything in the engine compartment, with a wing in the way you'd have to rappel from the ceiling or something to change the accessory belts. Damn Lamborghinis, Forza Ferrari. I guess if you have a $300K car you don't look at it from a mechanics point of view though. Manu that is damn impressive. No need for a wing in that case then IMO, although I still like how they look on the supercars. | ||
| Manu Sachdeva (Manu)
Member Username: Manu Post Number: 455 Registered: 2-2002 |
The Enzo pulls 1.36 lateral G on normal Road Tyres (!!!!!!!) - NOTHING on the roads come close. Nothing. The Bugatti EB110S pulled something like 1.06 Accelerative performance is only one part of the appeal of the car. Looking back on it I will change my opinion and say that the Murcie is a F A S T car - I know I've driven one - but its unfair to compare the car to the Enzo which costs soooo much more. The Enzo would eat the Murcie (and even the Zonda S) for breakfast. P.S. That white Murcielago looks pretty damn nice actually - black ones look nice too. Tako - don't you find they've gone overboard with the clutch assistance? | ||
| allan fiedler (Allanlambo)
Junior Member Username: Allanlambo Post Number: 52 Registered: 6-2002 |
kind of like the shopping cart rear wing on a celica,oops, i mean supra. | ||
| Willis Huang (Willis360)
Member Username: Willis360 Post Number: 945 Registered: 8-2001 |
That winged Mercie is in Japan. | ||
| Ernesto (T88power)
Member Username: T88power Post Number: 705 Registered: 2-2001 |
What about one of those front wings, a la cannonball run countach? If it looks good with one wing, it must look great with two! Ernesto | ||
| allan fiedler (Allanlambo)
Junior Member Username: Allanlambo Post Number: 51 Registered: 6-2002 |
no ernesto, thats a real car. id lose all the stickers, but the wing stays, car looks great. | ||
| allan fiedler (Allanlambo)
New member Username: Allanlambo Post Number: 50 Registered: 6-2002 |
Tako, id of killed the lady! other than that how do you like the car? what about doing exhaust?also, do you know there is a clear decklid cover for it, like on the 360 modena? heres a video, long but worth the wait. http://www.lambocars.com/framed/murcielago/muri.htm | ||
| Ernesto (T88power)
Member Username: T88power Post Number: 704 Registered: 2-2001 |
oh my god! somebody actually put a wing on a murcielago! how many lambo emblems are on that thing? Looks good in white though, just lose the wing and all the gold emblems/lettering... please tell me thats a photoshop creation Ernesto | ||
| Jason Godsil (Godsil)
Junior Member Username: Godsil Post Number: 135 Registered: 9-2001 |
Do you have the Murcielago video somewhere where we can see it? | ||
| TAKO (Tako)
Junior Member Username: Tako Post Number: 72 Registered: 4-2002 |
I got hit on my Murcie by a big a#s f@@king lady on Ford F150 truck 3 weeks ago and finally I can take it to the shop this week.  Damage is minimum. Side step cracked. No frame damage. 1 part to replace and 1 part to repaint. No value loss. Just 12k repalir that b@@ch has to pay | ||
| Joseph (Mojo)
New member Username: Mojo Post Number: 16 Registered: 9-2002 |
Love that car! But could do without the bull on the hood. | ||
| allan fiedler (Allanlambo)
New member Username: Allanlambo Post Number: 49 Registered: 6-2002 |
i would put a wing on the murcielago.  | ||
| allan fiedler (Allanlambo)
New member Username: Allanlambo Post Number: 48 Registered: 6-2002 |
Hey Tako, i saw the video of you and your Murcielago on the Bmw forum. Have you changed the exhasut system on it yet? Youll lose about 100pds of unwanted weight, gain a substantial amount of power, car will run cooler, and the sound is to die for. Also, how do you like it soo far? Is it your first Lambo? I plan on picking up a Murci next summer. | ||
| D B (Threesixty)
Junior Member Username: Threesixty Post Number: 64 Registered: 8-2002 |
When are the first Enzo's arriving in the US? | ||
| Ernesto (T88power)
Member Username: T88power Post Number: 703 Registered: 2-2001 |
you can also put a big wing on it.. LOL Ernesto | ||
| allan fiedler (Allanlambo)
New member Username: Allanlambo Post Number: 46 Registered: 6-2002 |
ernesto, thats your opinion, and what you'd do with YOUR money, i stated what i would do with mine. Using the arguement that i can only drive one, Id rather have a Murcielago, which i would twin turbo. | ||
| Mitchell L. Davidson (Jussumfastgi)
Junior Member Username: Jussumfastgi Post Number: 226 Registered: 4-2002 |
Show-off ;) I'm still working on my first Supercar. Keep posting, it gives us "savers" hope ;D I COULD go finance one..... ahg! No! .....teeempting........ | ||
| TAKO (Tako)
Junior Member Username: Tako Post Number: 71 Registered: 4-2002 |
I have a murcie already, anyway........ | ||
| Ernesto (T88power)
Member Username: T88power Post Number: 702 Registered: 2-2001 |
allan, using that argument you could say you could buy a Z06 Vette, Viper, SL55, 360 Spider, Bentley Turbo R, Range Rover, BMW M5, Audi S8, and have money left over for a boat for the price of the Enzo. For me, I'd take an Enzo over a murcielago, diablo, and F40... you can only drive one at a time... Ernesto | ||
| allan fiedler (Allanlambo)
New member Username: Allanlambo Post Number: 45 Registered: 6-2002 |
enzo is a nice car, although i dont think comparing an enzo to a murcielago is apples to apples. i mean it costs 2 1/2 times as much. no doubt the enzo will be faster, but for my money, id buy a murcielago, a diablo, and an f40, 3 cars for the price of an enzo! | ||
| Racer 001 (Mr_0011)
Junior Member Username: Mr_0011 Post Number: 196 Registered: 3-2002 |
Much better than the Murci IMHO. I love how it reeks F1... Ernesto, I sort of figured it was an F1... very high pitched for a road car... Oh well, I'll be hearing more of the Enzo... | ||
| Ernesto (T88power)
Member Username: T88power Post Number: 701 Registered: 2-2001 |
The sound was the F1 car. The Enzo looks great, though... can't wait to see performance tests/results, especially times at the ring and comparos with F50, Murcielago, and I cant think of any other supercars to test against. I guess soon the Carrera GT, VW, and Bugatti. Ernesto | ||
| Jim Schad (Jim_schad)
Junior Member Username: Jim_schad Post Number: 238 Registered: 7-2002 |
That thing looks so much better in motion! All exotics look a bit tame in a photo, but in person they really come alive. | ||
| Racer 001 (Mr_0011)
Junior Member Username: Mr_0011 Post Number: 193 Registered: 3-2002 |
Well, unless that was an F1 car... it sure sounds good. I love that car ever since I laid eyes apon it while others were saying it looked ugly. It's sweetness! | ||
| TAKO (Tako)
Junior Member Username: Tako Post Number: 69 Registered: 4-2002 |
http://www.sportscarfan.com/yasu/hitori/020930a.mpg http://www.sportscarfan.com/yasu/hitori/020930b.mpg FISCO event in Japan. Drool!! Now I want one |