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Paul Newman (Newman)
Member Username: Newman
Post Number: 555 Registered: 12-2001
| Posted on Thursday, October 10, 2002 - 1:27 am: | |
Actually there were both carb and FI 308's in 80. There was some overlap but I dont have production figures. |
Chris Tanner (Ctanner)
New member Username: Ctanner
Post Number: 36 Registered: 5-2001
| Posted on Wednesday, October 09, 2002 - 11:50 pm: | |
I agree also that it is a 1979. 1980 started the 308Gtsi fuel injection cars. There were no carb 80's 308s. |
Dr Tommy Cosgrove (Vwalfa4re)
Member Username: Vwalfa4re
Post Number: 319 Registered: 5-2001
| Posted on Tuesday, October 08, 2002 - 8:41 pm: | |
I think that new VIN code began for 1980 models. I guess that is your answer along with the emissions plate. 1979. |
Paul Newman (Newman)
Member Username: Newman
Post Number: 547 Registered: 12-2001
| Posted on Tuesday, October 08, 2002 - 7:31 pm: | |
My car doesnt have the new vin number that shows year and so on. Mine is just 29007. I spoke to the PO today who owned it since the 80's and he said it is a 79 and he wanted to correct it at the dmv but they gave him a hard time so he left it alone. He said by the time the car arrives to Northamerica and is sold, they date it as that particular model year in which it was sold, which was 1980. I believe the emission data plate tells it all by saying it meets 79 standards. Thanks for the input. |
Dr Tommy Cosgrove (Vwalfa4re)
Member Username: Vwalfa4re
Post Number: 318 Registered: 5-2001
| Posted on Tuesday, October 08, 2002 - 6:22 pm: | |
Look at your VIN #'s tenth digit (letter). It is used to designate the year model for vehicles produced for the U.S. market. A=1980, B=1981, C=1982, etc. "I" "O" and "Q" are not used, therefore H=1987 and J=1988 |
Hans E. Hansen (4re_gt4)
Junior Member Username: 4re_gt4
Post Number: 245 Registered: 4-2002
| Posted on Tuesday, October 08, 2002 - 12:52 pm: | |
Damn. That's the second time this morning someone posted something similar while I was typing mine. |
Hans E. Hansen (4re_gt4)
Junior Member Username: 4re_gt4
Post Number: 244 Registered: 4-2002
| Posted on Tuesday, October 08, 2002 - 12:50 pm: | |
Traditionally, US car makers religiously started the model year with a dramatic new car introduction in September. I think most foreign makers tended to follow suit. Now, the 'drama' has gone from new car intro, and the manufacturers see fit to call the car whatever year they want. I.e. you see vehicles being phased out that will carry their production on longer than normal, and, more often, you'll see early intro where the model year is well over a year in the future. Note that there are legal implications here as well. The vehicle must meet emissions/safety/fuel consumption regs for the *model* year in question. GM has doctored model years in the past to help it meet corporate CAFE requirements. |
Sean Harris (Sharris)
New member Username: Sharris
Post Number: 6 Registered: 3-2002
| Posted on Tuesday, October 08, 2002 - 12:44 pm: | |
Model years in the US are based on EPA and DOT compliance. When a manufacturer certifies a car for a certain model year's requirements then it is that model year regardless of production date. Also why F50 was '95 model year but sold new in '96. Also why there are '89 348s' although they were not sold new until '90. Specifically, since 1980 the VIN# designates model year regardless of production date and sales date or whatever a DMV clerk types into a computer. |
Martin (Miami348ts)
Advanced Member Username: Miami348ts
Post Number: 2947 Registered: 5-2001
| Posted on Tuesday, October 08, 2002 - 12:12 pm: | |
I had a 348TS that has a production date of 12/1990 and the title reads 1990. The carfax reads 1990, yet I have seen lower voin number 348s marked as 1991s as long as they were after 9 of that year. It is f*cking confusing! |
TomD (Tifosi)
Intermediate Member Username: Tifosi
Post Number: 1479 Registered: 9-2001
| Posted on Tuesday, October 08, 2002 - 12:08 pm: | |
no in model years in the US vernacular usually begin in late Aug/Sept. for example my 3.2 mondial was born in Dec 1985 but is an 86 model. yet FNA website says the the 3.2s started in year 85 - this refers to production run |
David P. Smith (Dave330gtc)
New member Username: Dave330gtc
Post Number: 22 Registered: 3-2002
| Posted on Tuesday, October 08, 2002 - 12:02 pm: | |
My thought is that the production date is the model year. My car was built in 12/1966 but has been titled as a 1967. Just because some clerk at the license bureau put a model year on your registration doesn't make it correct. |
Paul Newman (Newman)
Member Username: Newman
Post Number: 546 Registered: 12-2001
| Posted on Tuesday, October 08, 2002 - 11:47 am: | |
I have a stupid question regarding my 308. After attending a ferrari meet on the weekend, it added confusion as to what year my 308 is. Yes I know it sounds stupid. My production date is august 79. the ownership says 1980. My emission plate says conforms to 79 model year. I assumed mine was a 79 and the ownership is wrong. I saw a 308 which said on the emission plate that it conforms to 78 specs. The guys license plate read 79 308. WTF? Do I have a carbed 80 or a 79? My chassis number is 29007, anyone with an 80 model with a lower number out there, which would put mine at 1980? The prodution date is borderline for either year. |