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Noelrp (Noelrp)
Junior Member
Username: Noelrp
Post Number: 87
Registered: 8-2001
| | Posted on Friday, October 11, 2002 - 4:33 pm: | |
No, just as I said no CATS (read). I doubt that they are Dogs.
DOGS are slow too. |
Jeff Edison (Euro308guy)
Junior Member
Username: Euro308guy
Post Number: 58
Registered: 7-2002
| | Posted on Friday, October 11, 2002 - 3:05 pm: | |
My Euro 308 QV is noticably faster than it's US counterpart. |
Dan (Bobafett)
New member
Username: Bobafett
Post Number: 10
Registered: 9-2002
| | Posted on Friday, October 11, 2002 - 2:56 pm: | |
Hans, that was just bad! ;)
--Dan |
Hans E. Hansen (4re_gt4)
Member
Username: 4re_gt4
Post Number: 278
Registered: 4-2002
| | Posted on Friday, October 11, 2002 - 2:36 pm: | |
Noelrp: So if they have CATS, then they are DOGS? |
Craig Dewey (Craigfl)
Member
Username: Craigfl
Post Number: 467
Registered: 1-2001
| | Posted on Friday, October 11, 2002 - 2:20 pm: | |
My 328 Euro has a higher compression ratio, different gear ratios, no cats, different timing and different cams. It's rated at 270 HP instead of the stock 260HP. |
Noelrp (Noelrp)
Junior Member
Username: Noelrp
Post Number: 86
Registered: 8-2001
| | Posted on Friday, October 11, 2002 - 1:07 pm: | |
Do not forget the US emission requirements.
Until recently, most cars made for Europe have no CATS (hence faster car). |
Dave (Maranelloman)
Member
Username: Maranelloman
Post Number: 453
Registered: 1-2002
| | Posted on Friday, October 11, 2002 - 1:01 pm: | |
Remember als, in Europe, premium fuel has much higher octane than in the US, so modern cars can advance the ignition to produce more power before knocking than they will here. Early cars probably also had higher compression ratios to utilize this higher octane, thus producting more power. More recent cars are nearly equal; the extra octane may produce 3 or 4 more HP, but I suspect that is all. IMO. |
Dave Wapinski (Davewapinski)
Member
Username: Davewapinski
Post Number: 380
Registered: 8-2001
| | Posted on Friday, October 11, 2002 - 12:50 pm: | |
Steve, that makes sense, thanks, Dave |
Steve Magnusson (91tr)
Intermediate Member
Username: 91tr
Post Number: 1119
Registered: 1-2001
| | Posted on Friday, October 11, 2002 - 12:04 pm: | |
Dave -- Depends what you mean by "faster" IMO. If faster means maximum top end speed, the difference can be due to a final drive ratio difference even if the two versions have equal HP powerplants. If you had access/need for a lot of high-speed touring, a higher gear ratio (fewer crankshaft turns per wheel revolution) might be desirable, but for ripping around town a lower gear ratio (more crankshaft turns per wheel revolution) might feel faster even though the max top speed would be lower. I know I'd like to try changing my TR's final drive ratio from the stock ~2.9:1 to something a little lower like ~3.2:1 since its top end speed capability isn't that useable here in the US. |
Tenney (Tenney)
Member
Username: Tenney
Post Number: 255
Registered: 2-2001
| | Posted on Friday, October 11, 2002 - 11:00 am: | |
I've a friend who simultaneously owned euro/U.S. 355's and later euro/U.S. 360's. Said the euro 355 was noticably quicker than its U.S. counterpart. 360's, on the other hand, were equal performance-wise. |
Dave Wapinski (Davewapinski)
Member
Username: Davewapinski
Post Number: 378
Registered: 8-2001
| | Posted on Friday, October 11, 2002 - 10:47 am: | |
Yesterday I was picking up some Mercedes parts, and was talking to the man about cars. He said that Euro cars normally are faster than US, even the early ones before emissions controls.
I thought about the reading I have done on Ferraris and it seems that Euro cars have been faster than US cars.
Is this true?
If so, why the difference?
Thanks. |