| Author | Message | ||
| Mark Eberhardt (Me_k)
Junior Member Username: Me_k Post Number: 134 Registered: 5-2002 |
Yeah, it's probably a fiat part. Fiat sold the whole 128 production line to Yugoslavia and out came Yugos. | ||
| Hans E. Hansen (4re_gt4)
Member Username: 4re_gt4 Post Number: 288 Registered: 4-2002 |
Actually, the new Corvette motor is 346 cu in, whereas the old was 350 cu in. Saying that the new motor derived from the old one is like saying that the Porsche flat 6 derived from the Corvair. NO SIMILARITY. I've had many of the old small block Chevys apart over the years, and some of the new ones. As soon as you have dismantled an LS1, I'll appreciate your viewpoint. As an aside, for the 'car guy', the LS1 has the advantage of being VERY easy to extract horsepower from. The heads are superior in every way. Port configuration is completely different, and, for a change, each port is identical. They no longer siamese mirror image cylinders, exhaust ports are now separated, enabling better coolant cirulation in the head. Combustion chamber shape allows higher compression with pump gas. The block is a deep skirt design, with SIX bolt main bearing caps. The crank is completely contained within the block, and the oil pan, if you can call it that, is just a flat pieced of aluminum bolted to the bottom of the block. The new block has no place to put a conventional distributor, so electronically fired ignition is required in all applications. | ||
| Ernesto (T88power)
Member Username: T88power Post Number: 812 Registered: 2-2001 |
What a coincidence that the "all-new" motor is also 5.7L, just like the old one. Ernesto | ||
| Hans E. Hansen (4re_gt4)
Member Username: 4re_gt4 Post Number: 287 Registered: 4-2002 |
Uh, guys - re: the Corvette motor. The 1997 - present motor has *NO* parts in common with the earlier (55-96) small block, nor does it resemble it in *ANY* way, other than being a V8. TOTALLY different design. | ||
| Jack (Gilles27)
Member Username: Gilles27 Post Number: 596 Registered: 3-2002 |
Ed, you're partially right. Those are only in the Dino Yugos. | ||
| Ralph Koslin (Ralfabco)
Junior Member Username: Ralfabco Post Number: 51 Registered: 3-2002 |
Displacement of 53 Corvette six cylinder Blue Flame truck engine 235 C.I.D. Ralph | ||
| william speer (Wspeer)
New member Username: Wspeer Post Number: 43 Registered: 8-2002 |
as far as the keys go, finding "generic" blanks is very easy. trying to locate the correct neiman keys is excedingly difficult, which means more fun- as in the hunt. the keys, at least the neiman keys, are made from steel as opposed to brass. trying to find a locksmith that will cut a steel key is equally hard, as it ruins there blades. i have found that playing dumb at sears hardware is far easier as the clerk will most likely not realise what they are doing. i have not heard of aluminun keys on the doors. i believe brass S.A.F.E.- Torino keys are commonly available as i have had no trouble in finding them. | ||
| Chris Horner (Cmhorner17)
New member Username: Cmhorner17 Post Number: 24 Registered: 4-2002 |
Interesting. Just goes to show that sometimes the truth is stranger than fiction..... | ||
| Matt Lemus (Mlemus)
Junior Member Username: Mlemus Post Number: 250 Registered: 8-2002 |
As long as you know the swedesh words for "Leaking Oil again" and "why the F**K did ferrari make the g*d D**N door key out of aluminum?"  | ||
| Martin (Miami348ts)
Advanced Member Username: Miami348ts Post Number: 2988 Registered: 5-2001 |
...does that mean I can talk swedish to my Ferrari and she will understand me?  | ||
| Matt Lemus (Mlemus)
Junior Member Username: Mlemus Post Number: 248 Registered: 8-2002 |
Volvo key blanks worked on my 78 308's door lock. | ||
| Horsefly (Arlie)
Member Username: Arlie Post Number: 292 Registered: 5-2002 |
How many people remember that Chevrolet made its first V8 back in 1917 (or was it 1927)? Supposedly the quality was so bad that some of the cars were actually dumped into Lake Michigan to get rid of them. Then they gave up on the V8 idea until 1955. | ||
| Edward Gault (Irfgt)
Intermediate Member Username: Irfgt Post Number: 2113 Registered: 2-2001 |
Bret, we were talking about the Corvette V-8 engine that debuted in the 55 Chevys. Yes, the 53 Vette had a 6 with 3 Carter Carbs that were later used in 1962 on the Turbo Corvair Spyder. | ||
| '75 308 GT4 (Peter)
Intermediate Member Username: Peter Post Number: 2089 Registered: 12-2000 |
You can also throw in Lada into this mix, as they too, also built cars/engines using Fiat parts and designs. William Speer, sure, trying to find an original blank Neiman key is hard, but my "Dominion Lock Co. Canada" replacement only cost me $3.50 with cut incl. | ||
| BretM (Bretm)
Advanced Member Username: Bretm Post Number: 2744 Registered: 2-2001 |
Edward I thought the Corvette started mid year in 53 with the "Blue Flame" inline 6. I don't remember displacement, but it was something like 150HP with three carbs, and only attached to the Powerglide I think they called it. One of those real slushy auto trans. Chevy did use inline 6s in trucks, I doubt with three Webers on top though. I know they use aluminum, etc etc to make things more efficient, but essentially all Chevy V8s are still the same as they were in 55 when it came out (I think it was that year). All that has really changed is the peripherals like the computer management. It's the same thing with new Ferrari V8s, they aren't much different than the 308 block to be honest. They have changed more than the SBC has though. When you got a good thing stick with it. For all you nitpickers there obviously are some differences and we could rattle off about them, but in essence they haven't changed much. | ||
| Hans E. Hansen (4re_gt4)
Member Username: 4re_gt4 Post Number: 281 Registered: 4-2002 |
The motor in the C5 Corvette 'premiered' with the C5 in 1997. Clean sheet design not related to the old small block in any way. The engine is now used in various forms in all GM trucks. | ||
| David Feinberg (Fastradio2)
Junior Member Username: Fastradio2 Post Number: 179 Registered: 4-2002 |
Ed, Just busting your chops... Seems the first Yugos had engines based on the old Fiat 128...(The pinnacle of reliability?) David | ||
| Ernesto (T88power)
Member Username: T88power Post Number: 801 Registered: 2-2001 |
Edward is right though, the US-Spec Yugo GV series had Fiat engines and the new ones have Peugeot and Toyota engines. However, they are not Fiat/Ferrari engines, as Ferrari had nothing to do with it. I guess that is like saying that a Corvette has a Chevy/Geo engine. Ernesto | ||
| Edward Gault (Irfgt)
Intermediate Member Username: Irfgt Post Number: 2110 Registered: 2-2001 |
I think the Corvette engine originated in a 55 Chevy. The Yugo engines are Fiat engines. Look it up, it's true. | ||
| William Huber (Solipsist)
Member Username: Solipsist Post Number: 415 Registered: 9-2001 |
So let me get this straight, the few remaining Yugos in the world, (if any still running) some parts may only available at your local Ferrari dealer??? The parts & labor there will total out a Yugo, even if your just getting a key made. LOL!!!!! Ernesto, I guess thats the reason why Yugos where also burning up, (If the owners were deliberately causing the engine fires!) | ||
| David Feinberg (Fastradio2)
Junior Member Username: Fastradio2 Post Number: 177 Registered: 4-2002 |
But didn't the Corvette engine originate in a dump truck? | ||
| Ernesto (T88power)
Member Username: T88power Post Number: 800 Registered: 2-2001 |
Damn, Yugos have V8/V12 engines now? Wow! Ernesto | ||
| Edward Gault (Irfgt)
Intermediate Member Username: Irfgt Post Number: 2109 Registered: 2-2001 |
Yugos have Fiat/Ferrari engines and Marelli electrical systems. Sad but true. | ||
| william speer (Wspeer)
New member Username: Wspeer Post Number: 42 Registered: 8-2002 |
it maybe shared, but try to find an old neiman style key. you wo'nt be paying a yugo price. | ||
| William Huber (Solipsist)
Member Username: Solipsist Post Number: 414 Registered: 9-2001 |
I guess that makes Yugo owners feel pretty special. | ||
| '75 308 GT4 (Peter)
Intermediate Member Username: Peter Post Number: 2086 Registered: 12-2000 |
308's (Neiman style) are the same as Peugeot/Renault. | ||
| [email protected] (Tifosi12)
New member Username: Tifosi12 Post Number: 9 Registered: 10-2002 |
Had to get a spare ignition key for my 84 308 GTS. The guy at the key shop looked it up and told me with a big grin on his face, that my car uses the exact same ignition key as for some Yugo. Sheesh! I heard about the cheap Ferrari paint (at least on older models) and the Connolly leather, but Yugo parts... |