| Author | Message | ||
| Bruno (Originalsinner)
Member Username: Originalsinner Post Number: 656 Registered: 5-2002 |
LOL Sun rises in the east and sets in a terrible location. | ||
| Andrew (Mrrou)
Member Username: Mrrou Post Number: 376 Registered: 3-2002 |
LOL horsefly. | ||
| Dan (Bobafett)
New member Username: Bobafett Post Number: 32 Registered: 9-2002 |
Wow, the CA jealousy is overwhelming.  --Dan | ||
| Horsefly (Arlie)
Member Username: Arlie Post Number: 293 Registered: 5-2002 |
The 400 Ferrari probably had a gun in the glove compartment along with a copy of the United States Constitution. All 3 items are pretty much outlawed in the Republik of Kalifornia. | ||
| Bruno (Originalsinner)
Member Username: Originalsinner Post Number: 654 Registered: 5-2002 |
I know a guy who lived in CA. and had a federalized 400. He had to sell it and only to someone outside of California. It was on Ebay. Dont know why they didnt like it but it couldnt stay.More reasons not to live on the LEFT coast. | ||
| Modified348ts (Modman)
Member Username: Modman Post Number: 383 Registered: 11-2001 |
AMG also does this in southern California and I've been there seeing all types of exotics including 2 959s, yellow F-50, Bugatti, etc. the lists goes on and one of the guys said it's no big deal and it's much cheaper to do it. After seeing over fifty cars there it can't be bad. I felt like a kid in a toy store when one of the head guys told me I can look around at the cars, it was amazing... I would definately look into a Euro car because from my understanding like a 360 spyder you can buy for about 150-160K some dealers do this to make some good money. | ||
| James Selevan (Jselevan)
Junior Member Username: Jselevan Post Number: 168 Registered: 6-2002 |
Jay - you have it right. Nick's comments are also accurate. Your order of preference is 1) Car registered in California (with Bureau of Automotive Repair -B.A.R. - sticker), 2) previously California registered B.A.R. sticker car, and 3) none of the above. In order to have gotten a B.A.R. sticker, the car would have already required the DOT/EPA. Stated differently, all gray market cars in the U.S. must have a DOT/EPA letter certifying bumper height, door reinforcement beam, amber to red tail lights, safety glass, etc. That gets you in 49 states. California required the B.A.R. sticker, which required smog equipment. G&K told me that it takes about 4 weeks and $5,000 to start from scratch - without any documentation, to hand you a California car. They do all work on body, lights, bumpers, etc., and all engine smog work (air pumps, whatever) in a turn-key fashion. You hand them the car, $5,000 (approximately), and 4 weeks later they hand you the car and certificates. Hope this helps. Jim S. | ||
| Nick Berry (Nickb)
New member Username: Nickb Post Number: 18 Registered: 8-2002 |
It isn't difficult. The fact the vehicle is federalized does not mean it will meet CA smog standards. To do that will require the vehicle to be converted and test by a reputable conversion shop. They will provide all the necessary paperwork and documentation. All you have to do is take the car to DMV and get your title and plates. The largest and probably the best conversion shop is G&K in Anaheim CA. The do the work on all high end cars. Their phone number is 1-714-545=9503. One caveat; the car need to be at least 2 years old BEFORE they can convert it to CA smog standards. | ||
| Jay Morris (Jm3)
New member Username: Jm3 Post Number: 3 Registered: 10-2002 |
Well, it turns out that all the Ferraris I am attracted to are usually a Federalized Import. I live in California, and am having a bit of trouble finding out what is necessary to register a car that: Has been legally and correctly federalized. and is currently EPA and DOT legal regarding cats evap etc. As far as I know, the California routine is similar to the CA engine swap routine, _provided the car is already federalized_. This is where the car has either at one time been already inspected by a CA state referee, and there is a round (or sguare sometimes?)CA smog equipment sticker to indicate what equipment must be on the car for all biennial inspections. So am I to assume (CA DMV is unclear), that a Fed certified, but never CA certified car will either need to brought into CA compliance for the appropriate year, (ie 1984 or whatever) before it can pass the CA referee _VISUAL_ inspection, which must be satisfied before it can even be tested for smog, let alone registered? I do not know if there were, in particular the 400i, different standards for CA and 49-state cars. If Ferrari, (whom I don't even know if they cared) stated that Fed and CA were the same, then no problem. But why would Ferrari have ever stated anything? So, obviously it is best to buy a CA car currently registered in CA, second best to buy a previously CA car,(with a CA sticker) and bring it in and reinspect it, and worst, perhaps even impossible to bring in a FED only but never CA car. Obviously someone has some experience, and just as obviously I have no experience, so any help is appreciated. Jay, [email protected] |