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| Modified348ts (Modman)
Member Username: Modman Post Number: 400 Registered: 11-2001 |
Sorry, I meant Main Line.... | ||
| Modified348ts (Modman)
Member Username: Modman Post Number: 399 Registered: 11-2001 |
OK fellas, yes metallic films do affect some cars in radio reception if the antenna is in the glass, if the GPS is under the rear deck lid it will affect the Navigation system. As far as radar detectors I've not tested personally but have tinted cars with metalized films with the radar in the car but I don't believe they were Valentines with the rear radar, my beliefs are that the metalized film would affect the radar. John, Llumar is a great film product as it is my mail line, I also have some of Madicos but use very little of it. I only use some of Madicos for the color preferance of some of the customers choice. Madico film's adhesive system is average compared to Llumars film from shop tests. But it will pass for most people. I've done a UV test against the Llumar and Madico and the Llumar is twice the UV strength on the same shade and material. I've done a comparison on just about every known brand name I can find. Most are trash films that fail the visual test before going on any further. Just I recommend to stay away from dye films and metalized sputterd films. Don't be fooled by lifetime warranties to fail in a year or so or go for the $89. special. Is your car an $89 vehicle? it is worth paying the extra for a persons expertise that will guarantee the best product and the best install, period... You can figure the rest.. see the test in front of you, we give a test on any film a customer brings in from any shop unless it's the same product but then again the best materials don't mean the best job, now that depends on the experience of the installer and not how many years he or she has been doing it. Kinda like painting a car, it's the know how... | ||
| John Delvac (Johndelvac)
Junior Member Username: Johndelvac Post Number: 121 Registered: 11-2001 |
Makes since. I don't like the looks of the metallic anyway. | ||
| Francisco J. Quinones (Frankie)
New member Username: Frankie Post Number: 35 Registered: 8-2002 |
i like tint especially here in panama city fl. but i read somewhere that Mike Valentine of the world famous Valentine 1 detectors  tested his detectors with different kinds of film and he found that metallic films actually affected the performance of the units,something about the signals bouncing off the metal particles.does anyone have any more info on this? | ||
| Jim Schad (Jim_schad)
Member Username: Jim_schad Post Number: 316 Registered: 7-2002 |
I never thought of tint as a big deal. Take it to a reputable shop and pay your $89 and done. Of course I always got it simply for asthestic reasons not UV protection. This reminds me of when I got married. I learned more about napkins and bed sheets than any man ever needs to know. | ||
| John Delvac (Johndelvac)
Junior Member Username: Johndelvac Post Number: 120 Registered: 11-2001 |
Modman - My window tinter says he uses Llumar & Madico brand tints. Both have 99.9% UVA/B protection. Does this sound familiar/OK/Acceptable? My car is not left in the sun for long periods very often. | ||
| John Delvac (Johndelvac)
Junior Member Username: Johndelvac Post Number: 119 Registered: 11-2001 |
Modman - As I am planning to tint real soon, can you give me any trade/brand names you recommend? I appreciate your post, but I'm not sure what to ask for. | ||
| Modified348ts (Modman)
Member Username: Modman Post Number: 397 Registered: 11-2001 |
Frank, there is no way to put a film over the vinyl window because the film would crinkle, but there are dark shaded vinyl plastic that is available for redoing the factory clear. And Dave, if the film quality is good and it was in storage not seeing sun, it would last just as long as if the film was still in the box not installed. I've tested a poor quality film that would not last a year in our Sacramento heat but in the garage the car mostly sat, it still looks good with very little fade. If it was done 10 years ago some places used spray tint but not effective against the UV's or heat. My suggestion is to throw a UV meter against it and you'll know for sure. Heat reduction would probably be none since there wasn't a metalized coating used in the spray. | ||
| Frank Parker (Parkerfe)
Intermediate Member Username: Parkerfe Post Number: 1405 Registered: 9-2001 |
Modman, is there a way to tint the rear plastic window on my 348 Spider ? I have thought about having my windows tinted but wouldn't want to leave the back window clear. | ||
| Dave Penhale (Dapper)
Member Username: Dapper Post Number: 292 Registered: 4-2002 |
Modman, Thanks for that. My glass definitely does not show evidence of a 'film' being raised where it goes over those dots, it looks 'integral' to the glass. The car was sat in storage in a dehumidified heated environment for approx 10 yrs so surely there should be some deterioration by now? Regarding the opening windows, there is absolutely no evidence of film to the top edge, or cut back just from the side edges, surely this would show along the top edge where the window rubs against the seal as it closes. I am mystified. It looks more like a spray coating that has etched to the glass that was done with glass out either post delivery or at build...its a Euro, so maybe that was an option available albeit ex works but pre delivery, or during build. | ||
| Modified348ts (Modman)
Member Username: Modman Post Number: 396 Registered: 11-2001 |
Dale, on the 348 rear 1/4 glass the dotted area on the side you can always tell there is film since the film is not capable to lay perfectly flat against a raised surface. As far as the rollup windows, the film is cut at the edge of the glass so it looks factory. Factory do not tint with film on Ferraris, it is aftermarket done, being tinted on a Ferrari, a car seldomly seen outdoors, the film would last several years without any noticeable age, leave it outdoors in a hot climate area and you'll see it deteriorate as time passes. | ||
| Dave Penhale (Dapper)
Member Username: Dapper Post Number: 288 Registered: 4-2002 |
Modman, My Giallo 348TS has dark tint to all windows (bar windscreen), but it doesn't look at all like any 'film' is present. Even on v'close inspection I can see no film edges at all e.g. on a door window when slightly wound down. There are nil scratches and only about two tiny bubbles (and I mean tiny) on one rear quarter window near the F logo on the glass. Its so damn good it looks as though it was factory applied from day one, did they ever do this, is it possible? In fact looking at one of those bubbles on close inspection it looks like a buuble you would see in blown glass, rather than just the tint. | ||
| Modified348ts (Modman)
Member Username: Modman Post Number: 391 Registered: 11-2001 |
You are talkin about my expertise on this subject since it is part of my business. First of all there are too many film products out there and from my experience only 5% of the products out there are worth putting on, the rest is junk!!! film comes in dye or dye metalized. Dye films do fade faster than metalized films and there are metalized films that fade just as fast, some are more grainy or too reflective, some have UV inhibitors in the film and some don't, most manufacturers only put UV inhibitors in the adhesive only, some hold too much heat that they become too distorted like orangepeel, some are heat shrunk incorrectly that the heat shrink marks show up after a year or so when the sun had beat the broken down so called UV inhibitors. If you are getting your windows tinted you better know what you are getting otherwise you're screwed real bad like I have seen way too many. Lifetime warranty given by the place who did the work on your car don't mean •••• if it goes bad in a year or so just to put back the same piece of •••• film. The right combo is the best film for the right needs, the correct solution for mounting, good prep work, and a meticulous installer who knows A to Z. I have only seen maybe a couple of cars tinted properly in my entire career of doing this out of thousands of cars I have ever seen tinted. Our customers drive as far as a couple hundred miles away to get their windows tinted the right way with the best raw materials. I can't type too much details on this since it would take over an hour to tell you everything you need to know as it took a few years of experimentation with so many brand name films to make me feel in our business as NO COMPETITION in workmanship, I would say "see it and believe it" or "challenge it" if you got film peelin problems it could mean many things like poor adhesive on film, window not cleaned properly, or area of window is rubbing to hard against the film. Bubbling occurs due to poor product, poor mounting solution, improper heat shrink methods, and poor cleaning. The reason you see this mostly on back windows is this window faces the sun the most and the film wants to go back to it's original shape which tells you the installer did not shrink the film properly and did more of film stretching so this happens. For me I prefer hybrid films- half metal half dye, why? it looks pure, less grainy than any mostly metalized films and it doesn't look like a car with shiny sunglasses. And best of all... zero failure the last 8 years of using this film and never had to warranty a single car, it doesn't get any better than perfect. Of course most jobs won't be as meticulous as the cars that come out of my shop but they are acceptable to most people who don't know the difference. You don't have to get dark film to block the amount of heat you are desiring, you need to get the correct type of film, and also UV inhibitor is clear, the best UV film on the market is UV shield at 99.9 UVA & UVB protection it is even a clear film great for those who like the look of original and still preserve the interior. Hope this helps. | ||
| Frank Parker (Parkerfe)
Intermediate Member Username: Parkerfe Post Number: 1397 Registered: 9-2001 |
The tinting does help the cooling John. When I bought my 1986 328GTS, which was black on black, it had window tint. I had it removed because it started peeling. If I would have kept the car I would have had it put on again. | ||
| John Delvac (Johndelvac)
Junior Member Username: Johndelvac Post Number: 113 Registered: 11-2001 |
I would tint all windows with the same shade. Next to me is a 275 that belongs to Marci Haas from Texas. I'm not sure on the further designation (GTC?), but it's very similar to a 400i two cars away that appears to be even less tinted.  | ||
| James Selevan (Jselevan)
Junior Member Username: Jselevan Post Number: 171 Registered: 6-2002 |
I'm pretty sure that the 275 GTB(?) off to your right doesn't have tint. If she don't have tint, then I don't have tint. Jim S. | ||
| Patrick Pasqualini (Enzo)
Junior Member Username: Enzo Post Number: 51 Registered: 2-2002 |
I think it would look great. Would you also tint behind the louvers? | ||
| Todd Gieger (Todd328gts)
Junior Member Username: Todd328gts Post Number: 185 Registered: 6-2002 |
It does look like the TR has dark tint on it, huh? | ||
| John Delvac (Johndelvac)
Junior Member Username: Johndelvac Post Number: 110 Registered: 11-2001 |
Jim's TR does look really good with tint. It seems to make the glass become part of the car's lines. I think not having tint on mine makes folks wonder why the top is still on. The glass looks like, well glass, and does not add to the car's shape. Everyone says I have the cleanest 328 around so I was hesitant to change anything before seing Jim's photo. Thanks for your opinions. I should have posted a photo with the windows up & top on. Curious, I don't have one. Now, I'm leaning towards going with the illegal 20% instead of lighter 35%. Lets see pics of more tinted Ferraris. | ||
| ross koller (Ross)
Member Username: Ross Post Number: 426 Registered: 3-2002 |
lawrence, how do u get it out of your basement? carry it up the stairs? | ||
| Lawrence Coppari (Lawrence)
Member Username: Lawrence Post Number: 310 Registered: 4-2002 |
John: I'm going to look in my basement to make sure my black 328 is still there. | ||
| Todd Gieger (Todd328gts)
Junior Member Username: Todd328gts Post Number: 184 Registered: 6-2002 |
I think tinting can look good...if done right. I am not a huge fan of it b/c alot of kids do it and get carried away...and ghettoize. I think on your 328 it would sharp b/c it's black...just like the TR in Jim Schad's profile...that thing looks sinister and awesome. I have a friend who friggin tints everything he owns...4x4, Caddy, etc...so annoying...I told him to grow up. Car looks clean, John Cheers, TTG | ||
| Jim Schad (Jim_schad)
Member Username: Jim_schad Post Number: 303 Registered: 7-2002 |
I like tint. To get it off is pretty easy, but can be messy. Use windex and a razor blade to scrape it off. Makes alot of sticky goo, but the windex keeps it from sticking. DO NOT get the mirrored tint or the colored tint if you are anti ghetto! | ||
| ross koller (Ross)
Member Username: Ross Post Number: 422 Registered: 3-2002 |
i would go with the 20%, in order not ghettoise it, but still get the benefits you described. i have also found that darker than that makes it a bit dangerous at night. nice ride btw | ||
| John Delvac (Johndelvac)
Junior Member Username: Johndelvac Post Number: 109 Registered: 11-2001 |
I'd like to gather some opinions from you guys on window tinting my Ferrari. I think I want it for two reasons. One - to keep car cooler. Two - to cut down on the amount folks stare to see who is driving. I've had plently of other cars tinted before. I'd probably go with 35% since it's the darkest legal stuff in Georgia, though I'm not really opposed to 20% either, which was a must when I lived in Florida (sun & hide beer). Since my car is black-metallic, I will use smoke colored (regular) tint. I don't like the silver metallic stuff. So, how hard is it to remove if someone wanted to revert back? How do you guys feel about tampering with the originality? Does this ghettoize my car? I would use a highly recommended pro to install it ofcourse.  |