| Author | Message | ||
| William H (Countachxx)
Intermediate Member Username: Countachxx Post Number: 1529 Registered: 2-2001 |
I get it occasionally too  Fun isnt it ? Too bad the Cops dont share our enthusiasm. Sometimes I have to just talk myself into calming down. I usually drive my CHevy Tahoe around every day, keeps me out of trouble | ||
| ross koller (Ross)
Member Username: Ross Post Number: 447 Registered: 3-2002 |
mitchell, times from autocar (from memory) the sl55 reaches 186mph around 32.5 seconds, and the murci does it in around 35.5 seconds. don't quite understand how the murci wud be further down the track when they hit that speed? | ||
| Tim G. (Tim)
Junior Member Username: Tim Post Number: 193 Registered: 3-2002 |
You guys are great! I'm still rolling on the floor. I think Martin is most right. driving on the edge for me is much further to the inside than when I was younger but today it just feels closer to the edge. I guess when you start putting your right arm out when you brake you know your getting old. being that my huevos are getting smaller I may just take out my wife's suburban and see if I get the same rush. if so it would be a much cheaper way to go. I could then get that red ghia and put some F stickers on the side and be very happy. thanks for all the input....and the laughs. | ||
| Joseph (Mojo)
Junior Member Username: Mojo Post Number: 57 Registered: 9-2002 |
Tim already has an f40 I think he needs to try the other end of the spectrum a Karman ghia. You know they made them in a convertable also. 1600cc >100hp | ||
| Mitchell L. Davidson (Jussumfastgi)
Member Username: Jussumfastgi Post Number: 285 Registered: 4-2002 |
Ross, it may reach 300kmh faster than the Murci, but the Murci will be quite a bit ahead of it when they hit that speed. | ||
| Frank Parker (Parkerfe)
Intermediate Member Username: Parkerfe Post Number: 1435 Registered: 9-2001 |
Tim, if you need a sedan as a daily driver, try the M5. If you want a coupe, try the M3 or the new M6 which is due soon. It is rumored to offer the same 500hp as the new M5 will have and will be offered in a convertable as well. | ||
| Martin (Miami348ts)
Advanced Member Username: Miami348ts Post Number: 3013 Registered: 5-2001 |
...but at the end of the day it still remains a Mercedes! | ||
| ross koller (Ross)
Member Username: Ross Post Number: 442 Registered: 3-2002 |
agree on the sl55. i have been informed that in europe you can order them without restrictors and the car does 202 mph, and beats the murcielago in a straight fight to 300km/h.....way cool. | ||
| Martin (Miami348ts)
Advanced Member Username: Miami348ts Post Number: 3011 Registered: 5-2001 |
Tim, I think this is a sign of old age not adrenaline! Medically speaking you are close to a heart attack. To take preventive measures: You should send the 360 and the F40 on a truck to Miami, care of Martin. This will ensure your health (and a big smile on my face) ...just kidding  | ||
| Joseph (Mojo)
New member Username: Mojo Post Number: 49 Registered: 9-2002 |
I think you should buy a car that you don't want to hurt, like driving your mom's car. Then drive you f40 like a madman at the track. Because if you are dead you won't be able to enjoy it anyhow. With a car like that you would still get an adrenaline rush. And some idiot won't pull out in front of you. BTW I love the MB55. | ||
| Dan (Bobafett)
New member Username: Bobafett Post Number: 47 Registered: 9-2002 |
If you're willing to wait, I have an open invite to come drive my dealer's 575s one with 6sp and one with F1. I will post my impressions afterwards (prolly going this weekend). So your concern is that the car is too nice? Also, an SL55 for 5k over today? Where, how, when? If it's indeed an SL55, I'll jump on the bandwagon if you're not... --Dan | ||
| Tim G. (Tim)
Junior Member Username: Tim Post Number: 190 Registered: 3-2002 |
thanks for all the input guys. SquidRacing - I guess all out and on the edge is different for everyone. I am by NO streach of the imagination joe racer, I have a grasp of the basics, drive well, etc. but do drive very hard on the street which I know is not wise. probably the reason for the bigger adrenaline rush. on the track its not as much as on the street. could also be coupled with the fact that I would probably go to jail if caught. the dealer gave me the Porsche TT for the day. I took it back after an hour. its just too, too, too, I guess, nice! I felt like I was hot rodding my moms car around. incredible acceleration, handles nice enough. just a very nice car that sounds like a VW. I think I have grown to found of the viceral part of a Ferrari, especially the F40 and 360 Challenge. no comfort in these cars and I just wasnt ready for how nice the TT was. I can get an SL55 today for only $5K to $10K over list depending on the car I pick. I could have it by the end of the week, they are both on the ground and ready to go. I fear the SL will be like the TT except worse.... its just too nice. DarkHorse512 - I think you are right, save the special cars to keep them special. kinda silly to want to drive a 360 (or 550) as a daily driver. I can see how it would really take the specialness of the car away. "There are two types of drivers, those who have been hurt and those who are going to get hurt." I hear you!! both apply to me. cant thank you guys enough for helping me think through this thing. you all shed a lot of good light. I think I need something slower so I'll settle down and keep that adrenaline rush for the weekends only. thanks again guys. | ||
| Hubert Otlik (Hugh)
Member Username: Hugh Post Number: 267 Registered: 1-2002 |
In my eyes, the cars boil down like this: 996: sporty, subtle, and purvey a sense of anonymity; perhaps bland and boring to some, hence not really a 'supercar'; just another porsche *insert sigh*; that said, it has everything you'd want from a car: speed, brakes, handling, reliability!!, and to some degree practicality; after all it does have 4 seats. kidding. and, although it may not be emotive to all, the 996tt's are an excellent balance b/w extreme and practical. sl; well built, solid; however, heavy, automatic, and not in the least 'sporting', grand touring? yes, but to go from a 360c/F40 combo to an sl, may be a shock, especially for a driver with a kink for the visceral. however, this is not to detract from the sl in ANY way, as it does exactly what it was intended to do, perfectly: a luxury, GT automobile. 360; has a host of wanted attributes, but, to drive DAILY may become straining, and insight more worry. also, being that it is a 'supercar', it will surely provoke the driver to push the car, may be a good thing, may not. losing your liscense or injuring yourself, or another driver can happen in any auto, but if your sure that a given car will provoke a behavior, maybe it's best to reserve it for the track? the vette; the z06 is tremendous 'bang/buck' however, going from a 360 to a z06? i don't know if you could, b/w the two there is a lot lost in the shift, the vette v. the 360 is an entirely different paradigm. the 550!; to me, it would 'seem' that this car may be an amicable medium; after all, it is a ferrari, it is subtle, stylish, performs, and does so with tremendous grace, and very little drama, from what has been discerend from 550 owners on the chat. and, to date the 550 prices seem to be softening, quite a bit actually, could be a good time to consider one. maybe one in either black, blue, or silver. what do you think, tim? | ||
| Dan (Bobafett)
New member Username: Bobafett Post Number: 46 Registered: 9-2002 |
I think the MB is perfectly suited to daily driving. A 550 would be the ultimate complement, but the porsche is too racey. The SL is comfortable and subtle, yet fast enough for purposeful driving. It is NOT, however, a performance car and won't demand much of you, making interactions with the F-car special. I personally would advise against a porsche as a daily driver (360 too, but for different reasons). The 550 is much better suited, but the SL will be very difficult to beat for the money. --Dan | ||
| Hubert Otlik (Hugh)
Member Username: Hugh Post Number: 265 Registered: 1-2002 |
Maybe it's me, or maybe I don't go fast enough, but be it at the track or on the street, my adrenaline rushes don't last long, and subside shortly thereafter. Obviously, if I put a wheel or two off on the track, or cut a burm really hard, it's exciting, I get that tingle, but its gone before the next corner. Strange really, I'm most relaxed while lapping a track; then again, as I said, I'm surely not going fast enough. My perspective would probably be different if I was ripping along in a car of supercar stature. Regarding the daily driver; the MB is beautiful. but you'll have to compromise for an automatic, if it were me, I would get the TT; only if the prospect of driving a 360 everyday was out of the question. One question, though, why no mention of a 550? | ||
| David J. Smith (Darkhorse512)
New member Username: Darkhorse512 Post Number: 5 Registered: 10-2002 |
Tim G. Gerhard Berger once said he needed several days to come down from the rush of racing a car all weekend. By the time he was back to normal it was time to strap in again for Friday free practice of the next G.P. I get a rush like no other behind the wheel of a car at the limit. But driving at the limit and the law of averages is the reason for the old driver adage, "There are two types of drivers, those who have been hurt and those who are going to get hurt." If adrenaline came in a pill, it would be illegal without a perscription. So get your fix in measured doses as some of us may develop a harmful dependency. For a daily driver, get something less performance oriented. It will make the time with the fast cars more special. | ||
| Dan (Bobafett)
New member Username: Bobafett Post Number: 44 Registered: 9-2002 |
I would go for the SL55. Finding one is very difficult (I've been on a list for almost a year, and won't see a car until march/june of next year), but the car is SO perfect for daily driving applications, it's tough to beat. I'm not a porsche fan in the least, but I won't go into an anti-p-car tirade here. --Dan | ||
| Tim N (Timn88)
Intermediate Member Username: Timn88 Post Number: 1514 Registered: 6-2001 |
I thought they sent you an MSO? | ||
| Matt Karson (Squidracing)
Junior Member Username: Squidracing Post Number: 191 Registered: 3-2001 |
Im still trying to figure out how one drives a Ferrari right on the edge, and full bore, on the street. Being able to extract all the car has to offer on a right turn? Sorry, just me being my sometimes jaded self. | ||
| Jim Schad (Jim_schad)
Member Username: Jim_schad Post Number: 319 Registered: 7-2002 |
Tim: Just buy a ford taurus, paint it red, add some badges to the fenders and tell folks it is the new economy line of ferrari since ford took them over. Then you have best of both worlds. Perceived performance/prestige with the low maint of a ford. Or you could just walk.... | ||
| Tim G. (Tim)
Junior Member Username: Tim Post Number: 189 Registered: 3-2002 |
Timn88 is right - its not street legal ! I did get the Challenge registered and had plates but the DMV later called the selling F dealer with a question on the VIN and the F dealer sales manager freaked and said its not street legal, has no air bags and is a very dangerous car and that I would sue the DMV and the F dealer if anything happened and begged them not to register it, so the DMV revoked the plate. I have thought about trying to register it as a kit car and let the DMV assign a VIN number. then I would have two titles, one real one and one for the kit car to get the registration. dont know how I'm goin gto proceed yet. maybe because it is not street legal that added alot to the adrenaline rush knowing I was in big trouble if I got stopped. yes I had a minor incident with a wall that jumped out in front of me at the track. the damage was minor, (minor to the car, major to the wallet) it was back on the track within 3 weeks. I running the Pirelli rain tires that come with the car, could even be the same tires that come with the 360 street car. BTW, I'm taking the car down to a local independant dealer today to sell it on consignment. looking to get either a 360, SL55, Porsche turbo or vette as my daily driver. really tossed on all these. have a lead on a 2000 360 with 25K miles for $130K. figure I could add 25K more miles and not get hurt that bad and driving an F car would be the best. the SL55 is awesome on power, handling, comfort, etc. and the look is cool for probably a few more months and then it becomes "the new SL" and thats all the F car is always the F car. the TT would be kinda stealth and a lot of fun and very reasonable comfort. only down side, or could be up side, is that 98% of people cant tell the difference between a boxster and a TT and P cars are a dime a dozen, but they are priced well now and great power. never had a P car. the vette, well, cheap and fun, good warranty, cheap maint. wont get hurt to bad when selling it. any of these cars would be replaced within 12 months anyway. just now sure if I can handle driving a 360 daily - I could drive the others civilly but the F car just makes me drive fast - too many tickets and no driving at all. what do you guys think? | ||
| Dan (Bobafett)
New member Username: Bobafett Post Number: 43 Registered: 9-2002 |
Wow, what did it take to make the car street legal? Did you start with a challenge car and work to legal-specs, or the other way around? (ie a regular car worked to challenge specs) --Dan | ||
| John A. Suarez (Futureowner)
Junior Member Username: Futureowner Post Number: 210 Registered: 3-2002 |
and that is EXACTLY why you can't part with the challenge car! | ||
| Tim N (Timn88)
Intermediate Member Username: Timn88 Post Number: 1512 Registered: 6-2001 |
They arent street legal...at least alll of them but this one. Tim has the only street legal one in the world, and its perfectly legit. What kind of tires to you run on the street? kenny, if i remebr right, the damage wasnt bad at all. | ||
| Kenny Herman (Kennyh)
Member Username: Kennyh Post Number: 417 Registered: 8-2001 |
Tim, I thought you crashed your challenge car? Fixed already? | ||
| Dan (Bobafett)
New member Username: Bobafett Post Number: 41 Registered: 9-2002 |
You're definetly not alone. Not only is it a more physiological occurance, but with such special vehicles, one of passion as well. I didn't know the challenge car is a two seater or road legal. Interesting. --Dan | ||
| Tim G. (Tim)
Junior Member Username: Tim Post Number: 187 Registered: 3-2002 |
I took the F40 out on Saturday to a local coffee shop and it took about 40 minutes to settle down! the adrenaline was really flowing, of course I drive it righ at the edge so that is a big part of it. I took the 360 Challenge out today with my son to get lunch and the same thing, it took an hour for me to start to settle down, I could feel the adrenaline just surging as I replayed the drive to lunch. then got back in and drove home and same thing, took another hour to settle down. I know that the way I drive add's alot to it. for me there is no such thing as driving normal when I am in the F cars. its full bore poin to point, on the edge in corners, etc. slow down when passing other cars, then back in it hard. ya I know its crazy but just cant keep my foot out of it. Am I the only one that gets this kind of rush? |