| Author | Message | ||
| Tim G. (Tim)
Junior Member Username: Tim Post Number: 211 Registered: 3-2002 |
the R&T article should have been called "F40 Spectacular" they certainly know Ferrari's better than Forza. | ||
| Jim Glickenhaus (Napolis)
New member Username: Napolis Post Number: 40 Registered: 10-2002 |
The dec Road&Track has a nice cover article on the F40 959 Porsche and McLaren. As Enzo told a friend of mine about the F40:"I don't care if the body seams are straight. I don't care if it has has electric windows, but when he steps on the accelerator I want him to sh*t his pants." | ||
| Raleigh Smith (288gto)
New member Username: 288gto Post Number: 8 Registered: 10-2002 |
Chris and Tim, I did read the article and thought to myself, "wow, an F40 isn't all I heard it was carcked up to be." I have been in a 360 and knew that if was fast, but I had always thought that an F40 was a beast. This makes me question other things I have read in Forza. I am looking for my first F-car, and I have spoke to many dealers about the Mondial buyers guide last month. They all said the same thing: 1) If you are going to buy a Ferrari don't get a Mondial 8, or 3.2, and 2)good luck finding one in the price range that Forza said. Like other Forza readers I live through their articles to experience the cars that I can't afford right now. This chat site has helped me get the right info. I thank you two and everyone else who helps those of us looking. Now the only struggle is talking my wife into letting me have 355 GTS. Raleigh | ||
| Markus Lex (Playersmarkus)
New member Username: Playersmarkus Post Number: 8 Registered: 10-2002 |
Chris, nice pic of you on the cover ! Kidding..;o) Congrats for the cover, certainly beats the swimsuit issue cover;o) Markus Playersrun | ||
| Arnaldo Torres (Caribe)
Member Username: Caribe Post Number: 440 Registered: 2-2001 |
Congrats Chris! Beautiful car. Bought the issue yesterday. Love the Brembo upgrades. I wander if the Brembo kit that they sell for the TR does have some of the issues you had before the Master cylinder upgrade. Has anybody upgraded a 90 TR (or the like) with the Brembo kit and can share some comments regarding this upgrade? | ||
| Tim G. (Tim)
Junior Member Username: Tim Post Number: 209 Registered: 3-2002 |
Cool Pic Shahin. thanks for posting it. | ||
| Rob Lay (Rob328gts)
Board Administrator Username: Rob328gts Post Number: 2635 Registered: 12-2000 |
The Green calendar to be exact... http://ferrarichat.com/Merchant2/merchant.mv?Screen=PROD&Store_Code=F&Product_Code=C03G&Category_Code=C03 | ||
| shahin tabassi (Shahin)
Junior Member Username: Shahin Post Number: 54 Registered: 4-2002 |
i shot this picture of your car tim, its in one of the ferrari chat calendars.  | ||
| Tim G. (Tim)
Junior Member Username: Tim Post Number: 208 Registered: 3-2002 |
see, everyone loves Coop's pictures. this is how the cars were lined up for Brock to shoot. he took a ton of them. I guess the editor is fairly clueless | ||
| Francisco J. Quinones (Frankie)
Junior Member Username: Frankie Post Number: 62 Registered: 8-2002 |
o.k. so you guys put about a million dollars worth of cars at risk on the track and they don't even give you complimentary advance copies of the issue?WTF????what's wrong with that picture?oh well.... outstanding shots Coop!looks like an attack squadron getting ready to go out on a sortie.great,love it.thanks | ||
| Tim G. (Tim)
Junior Member Username: Tim Post Number: 205 Registered: 3-2002 |
Not sure I would be the right one to write the letter, maybe so. I'm not sure Forza would admit they were wrong, IE "I took six laps to warm up before I started to use the car" when he took no more than three in the F40 and four in the 360C. that would be a pretty hard one to swallow. also the one about the acceleration being linear like a Porsche TT. the F40 is anything but linear in acceleration unless you are pressing the throttle down linearly. I think there are way to many errors for them to admit to. Manu - your friend is absolutly right in his description of the F40. its also interesting that almost any magazine out there that is talking about the Enzo says that it is a great car but they would rather have an F40, especially for the money. the friend of mine that drove the Enzo test car, when it was in testing trim and putting out 850 HP, said that he would rather have the F40 as well. | ||
| Rob Lay (Rob328gts)
Board Administrator Username: Rob328gts Post Number: 2622 Registered: 12-2000 |
Awesome pics Coop! | ||
| Cmparrf40 (Cmparrf40)
Member Username: Cmparrf40 Post Number: 472 Registered: 3-2002 |
COOP, great pic's! I sent you an email! | ||
| Manu Sachdeva (Manu)
Member Username: Manu Post Number: 513 Registered: 2-2002 |
Just on Saturday I was speaking to a well-known independent UK Ferrari dealer that has a slightly modded Ferrari F40 for sale. (Michelloto bits, upgraded Turbos, intercoolers etc)..... Bascially he reported that as a drving machine the F40 has NO equal - literally - it's MAD, BAD and WILD... The integrity of the car (as a driving proposition) is beyond doubt... What strikes me about your reports on Forzas article is that they either completely missed the point about what purpose of the test was OR they didn't actually evaluate the car correctly..... I haven't read the article but remember fellas if it's the latter point - then the it's easily the Magazines prerogative (i.e this Brock chap) to think the way it does... ... clearly if you don't agree.... well then I reckon you ought to let them know that they are blasting one of the all time GREAT drivers cars. | ||
| Coop (360)
New member Username: 360 Post Number: 27 Registered: 4-2002 |
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| BretM (Bretm)
Advanced Member Username: Bretm Post Number: 2839 Registered: 2-2001 |
I would go with the letter to set the record straight. When they called the black F50 from New Orleans (in another thread right now actually) "the rattiest F50 in the world" or something like that, they printed the owners rebuttal, setting the record straight in that although the spoiled has chips in it, it's driven like God and Enzo intended and mechanical perfectly maintained. Something like that would work well in this case. | ||
| Rob Lay (Rob328gts)
Board Administrator Username: Rob328gts Post Number: 2620 Registered: 12-2000 |
From an advertisers perspective, Forza has brought in more new users to FerrariChat.com than any other advertising I've done. I think the demographics of Cavallino vs. Forza are a little different too. | ||
| Eric Eiland (Eric308gtsiqv)
Member Username: Eric308gtsiqv Post Number: 470 Registered: 11-2001 |
Chris Cummings...great idea...in fact, it might be a good idea to send FORZA a copy of this thread  -- would be interesting to see the outcome. | ||
| shahin tabassi (Shahin)
New member Username: Shahin Post Number: 48 Registered: 4-2002 |
Tim, the car the editor was testing costs 50 grand, not 30 | ||
| chris cummings (Entelechy)
Junior Member Username: Entelechy Post Number: 130 Registered: 5-2001 |
William brings up a good point; most of us will never know the intricacies and joys of driving an F40, much less a 360C. We tend to experience these vicariously through the descriptions of the writer and after reading the article, I was surprised at many of his impressions. I think it would be worth a letter to Forza to "set the record straight". They seem to be willing to admit their errors, though never on this scale. It'd be interesting to see if they'd publish and own up to it. Just a thought. You're a great guy Tim and I enjoyed meeting you at FCA/LA. I'm glad I got to hear your side of the story here, because the article really left me wondering what happened. Sounds like you really extended yourself and they not only took it for granted, they shortchanged you in the process. Take care, ~Chris | ||
| Tenney (Tenney)
Member Username: Tenney Post Number: 264 Registered: 2-2001 |
Was a fun day. Enjoyed meeting Brock. Seemed like a good enough guy. Haven't read the article, yet. But too bad it wasn't to your liking after all of the effort you put forth. End of the day there's an F40 in your garage, though, which is better than a kick in the pants. Another suggestion test-wise, is that if a comparo was going to represent a fair bit of the focus, Grant Maiman was handy and reasonably qualified to burn a lap or two for the clocks, I think. PMUM was there, too. He'd have been able to offer a fairly qualified either/or also, IMO. Again, haven't read the text yet. Though even more curious to do so now. Still appreciate the kind invite and generous hospitality, guys. Even if it's not one for the magazine, it was definitely one for the books. | ||
| Willis Huang (Willis360)
Member Username: Willis360 Post Number: 999 Registered: 8-2001 |
I'm a big F40 fan and I was underwhelmed by the article. Didn't you guys have a few track action shots from that event? They should have used them. Also, they mentioned the other two F40's but some pictures should have been included (side-by-side shot of a near-normal F40 vs the full-race monster, for instance). In the same issue, that article on the Digi-Tec 360 was interesting. | ||
| wm hart (Whart)
Member Username: Whart Post Number: 561 Registered: 12-2001 |
Alright, i got a better one for ya. Why not get some professional ex-race car driver who would agree to do a rematch; get a writer to attend, and revisit the issue. I recall that at one time, they raved about the paddle shift in the 360 but then revisited the issue with a stick version of the 360, and recanted some of their earlier conclusions. | ||
| Tim G. (Tim)
Junior Member Username: Tim Post Number: 201 Registered: 3-2002 |
Boy you guys are really hitting the nail on the head here. when he compares the 360C to the F40 there is no talk of turn in, corning, exiting, not much on braking, the 360C has incredible brakes but so does the F40 once they are warmed up. My F40 is close to what the 360C is in braking. turn in is a little heavier on the F40 but I attribute that to manual -v- power steering. the F40 feels way more comfortable on the track as far as building you confidence and the car tells you more whats going on than the 360C does. the story should have been something like, "after 15 years the F40 still blows away a modern GT car (ie 360C)" if I didnt know better, after reading the article I would not think much of the F40. in my opinion, Brock shed a very aweful light on ALL F40's and if I didnt know better I wouldn't read the article and then want to buy one. the article should have left you drooling to buy one but instead it did just the opposite - now thats "F40 Spectacular" Whart - I hear you. I have thought about it but I'm not sure it would do any good since the editor is a motorcycle rider who comes from a motorcycle magazine - she was more inamored with the $30K BMW she was testing than all the F cars that were at the track. I'm not one much for conflict especially when you are dealing with people of this mentality level (the people at Forza that is) I have had many people here in the local FCA club call me and ask what the heck is the deal with the Forza article - they say it made my car sound like it was a piece of crap and that the F40 in general is a very lack luster car. I think Forza and Brock did a terrible disservice to Ferrari and certainly the F40. maybe forza should just read this thread to see just how dissapointed people are with Forza and not just this article. | ||
| BretM (Bretm)
Advanced Member Username: Bretm Post Number: 2837 Registered: 2-2001 |
I got the issue this Friday when I stopped home and was like sweet, finally getting to read it with Chris and Tim being in it, I was psyched. Then I read it and was like wtf, they made the F40 in general sound "primitive" in the words he used for the braking system. You can tell a hell of a lot about a car by just working on it, and I can safely say that the 360C can't hold a candle to the F40. I don't know about lap times, driving them, etc. but just based on how they're built, the 360 is not in the same league when you're talking about performance only. Plus, you can make an F40 unGodly with some turbo mods, cams, etc., a 360 is about as far as an engine that size is going to be taken in it's naturally aspirated form (switching it to TT is making it totally different than intended and would require the entire engine to be stripped down to the block). I didn't even see that much comparison work to be honest, even cheap yokel drag racing mags will throw some stats in there when comparing cars. Like you guys said, the article was jerked off. It made it sound like a 360 could move like an F40 because it is more modern, give me friggin break, 90 more hp and a hell of a lot more torque, moving a 500lbs less car, with much better brakes when modded like Chris', is fast regardless of age. A new engine that makes 395hp is not more powerful than an "old" engine that makes 485. The F40 is still the closest thing to a racecar for the street to come from Maranello, the 360 is simply a very fast, comfortable sports car. | ||
| Jim E (Jimpo1)
Member Username: Jimpo1 Post Number: 905 Registered: 7-2001 |
Chris, At our Ferrari event the other night, Rob wore his F40 shirt. Do you have another that you'd like to sell? Email me if so! | ||
| Kevin Butler (Challenge)
New member Username: Challenge Post Number: 21 Registered: 9-2002 |
F40's kick serious ass and everyone on this site knows it. I am going to Barnes & Noble tonight to read the article in the store and then put mag back on the shelf and walk out. Take that, Forza! | ||
| wm hart (Whart)
Member Username: Whart Post Number: 559 Registered: 12-2001 |
Tim, it may be the lawyer in me, but it might be worth a "joint" letter from you and Chris, to discuss what the article didn't get right. I wouldn't get real bitter about the writer, but make a record, since there may be alot of Forza readers who are not (yet, anyway) plugged in to this site, and won't know the truth. It will make for interesting reading. I tend to regard Forza as the kind of thing that appeals to the neophyte, gee, i'm thinking of buying a ferrari, so lemme read up kind of magazine. Some of the historical articles are good, but alot of what the magazine is about is general mass market appeal. Yeah, i still read each issue, but only because i've been known to buy even The Robb Report if it has something about ferrari in it. Not to slam Forza, it fits a certain niche, but you might enjoy gracefully busting their balls. I would definitely buy that issue! | ||
| Cmparrf40 (Cmparrf40)
Member Username: Cmparrf40 Post Number: 471 Registered: 3-2002 |
Eric, you have an excellent point. What was supposed to happen was a side by side comparison of a Stock F40 and a modified F40 was rendered null and void when my master cylinder was declared DOA. It did not leave Peter with much to talk about... | ||
| Eric Eiland (Eric308gtsiqv)
Member Username: Eric308gtsiqv Post Number: 468 Registered: 11-2001 |
Tim, Chris and others... First, allow me to congratulate you both for the feature article. You guys are fortunate to say the least. What a blast it must be to own one of Enzo's masterpieces! My hat's off to you, and thanks for sharing your experiences. I'd been anticipating reading the coverage ever since you first announced the feature as forthcoming. Finally picked up a copy over the weekend, and immediately turned to the article. While it started out as a great comparison, the story itself seemed to take a turn towards the other direction. Obviously events happened that were entirely out of your control, and you guys went to great lengths to remedy the problems under the cirumstances. I would have to agree with the consenus that FORZA (and Brock) blew the opportunity to provide its loyal readership with what could have been a very great and informative comparison test for both F40 owners and Ferrari owners/enthusiasts alike. Thanks for expressing your opinions on the article here as they serve to explain a good deal of the questions that many of us FORZA readers had after the read. | ||
| Scott Juarez (Scottjua)
New member Username: Scottjua Post Number: 49 Registered: 4-2001 |
personally articles like this and all of the most recent (ie. last year or two) articles in Forza have sucked. This is another reason I am not renewing my subscription...the pretty pictures alone don't justify the waste of paper their printed on. I just can't read a single thing in Forza these days and come away satisfied. Tim, sorry it was such a personal defeat for you, but think about all of the F-fans who will never know the difference...sad indeed. | ||
| Cmparrf40 (Cmparrf40)
Member Username: Cmparrf40 Post Number: 470 Registered: 3-2002 |
Rob, I am in the middle of building Motorcoach/transporter. Tim has given me some excellent ideas. This M/F is going to be wild! No, pics yet, they just started today. Pics soon! | ||
| Ernie Bonilla (Ernie)
Member Username: Ernie Post Number: 393 Registered: 11-2001 |
Chris it was great to see your car on the cover. But what happened to the other two??? I have to agree with Tim a bit. They had a great opportunity to put three F40's in that magazine, and they blew it big time. On the flip side if I ever figure out how to post video, I have some nice footage of the cars. | ||
| Rob Lay (Rob328gts)
Board Administrator Username: Rob328gts Post Number: 2606 Registered: 12-2000 |
Who would think NASCAR rednecks would be more interested in high end coach trailers than the Ferrari community. I guess that's where the money is right now. Congrats Tim. | ||
| Tim G. (Tim)
Junior Member Username: Tim Post Number: 197 Registered: 3-2002 |
thanks for the offer Edward and I appreciate you saying thanks already. Chris, as I said this has nothing to do with you. you are my buddy and I am very very happy and proud that you are on the cover and have all those photos in the mag. I'm just dissapointed in Forza and Brock. Brock is definately not a story writer about cars. he should go back to designing. Forza just doesnt get it. I think they put too much effort into the Porshe magazine and their others and the Forza mag. is just second fiddle and they dont understand the car or the community. heck, the editor comes from a motorcycle magazine and got into motorcycles because she worked there. she talked more about the little BMW they were testing that weekend than she did about the F cars. maybe thats why I have subscribed three times and still have not recieved a copy, it must not be the magazine for me. Chris - how is the truck/coach/trailer deal coming? need any help? I'm dropping one off at he NASCAR race here in Phoenix this weekend. either Mark Martin, PJ Jones, or Earnhardt Jr. is going to stay in it. they are interested in purchasing a couple. thanks for letting me vent on Forza guys. | ||
| Edward G. Salla (350hpmondial)
Junior Member Username: 350hpmondial Post Number: 190 Registered: 2-2002 |
Tim, How about letting one of us Engineer types test your cars. (There are a lot of us on this site, check our profiles.) We are very analytical and indifferent. And after a free lunch, we will always say thank you. At the very least, we can count to 6 without letting go of our ,,,er ,,,,,, "shifters." | ||
| Cmparrf40 (Cmparrf40)
Member Username: Cmparrf40 Post Number: 467 Registered: 3-2002 |
Tim, I must agree. It would have been nice to have gotten an advance copy of the text before it went to print to correct the technical errors. I was also disappointed that there was not a single picture of all three cars in the magazine. It was with considerable effort that Tim, Roland and I put this event together. You try getting three F40 from KS, CO, ans AZ together in California. Tim is correct, it was the 2 mechanics that Tim brought in that discovered my master cylinder problem. I know that when my wife read the article, she said "well, Tim will never speak to you again". Tim and I's friendship is in tact and we both share the disappointment of an article that was not as balanced as it should have been. I certainly would have preferred to have all thre cars on the cover, but in Peter's defense, he only took the pictures, the Photo editor at Forza chose the pictures to include. I think he made a huge mistake. (The most ironic part of this story, I let my Forza subscription lapse! I still have not receieved my copy! My friend Chris Hill loaned me his so Dana and I could read it) Hoping Tim and I are friends.... Chris | ||
| TomD (Tifosi)
Intermediate Member Username: Tifosi Post Number: 1612 Registered: 9-2001 |
wow, Tim you sound really disappointed in the whole process - sorry to hear it | ||
| Tim G. (Tim)
Junior Member Username: Tim Post Number: 196 Registered: 3-2002 |
I finally got a copy of Forza yesterday and read the article. There were actually a lot of inacuracies in that article. first Brock did not take 6 laps to get warmed up in my car and then however many more he states he took. he did three laps TOTAL and was running at warm down lap speeds. the throttle stick he is speaking of is typical of all F40's unless you have a vacuum leak. when you close the throttle there is tremendous vacuum created because of the back pressure of the turbos and the carberators and it takes a lot of pressure on the throttle to break that vacuum. all three cars sounded almost identical. Chris's car and mine have the exact same exhaust so they sound identical. Rolands is slightly different but very similar. Brock says sounds like someone is passing him when he lets off the throttle in a corner, get over it. you would think after experiencing it once you would get the sound thing. he says " it makes a weird sonic resonance" not, its music, it sounds sweet and does not give the impression that someone is passing you. I think Brock was scared to death in the car. Brock also said that the turbos are not what Gendreau described but just like a Porsche TT. he said "I kept waiting for something powerfull to happen but found them to be linear like a porsche TT" Give me a break! the F40 can be constant pulling power like the P car if you slowly depress the gas pedal. if you stab it, its vicious. the cover says "F40 Spectacular" and I agree with you guys, it talks about three F40 but where are they. "Spectacular" would be a picture of three F40's all together. I thought the article was VERY poorly written, does not give an acurate description of the F40 and Peter Brock is obviously the wrong person to have drive a car and then write an article about it. He also did not ask to drive my 360, he asked to drive the F40. after driving the F40 I offered for him to drive the 360, he declined and then I said, no go ahead, then he took it out and did only 4 laps in the 360. he states turbos kick in at 3000rpm, not, they dont kick in until about 4300rpm. he also says my car only has a tubi otherwise is stock. well I have a tubi, I have LM test pipes, I have chips, and the boost has been adjusted on the turbos. I also glad Brock's "faith was considerably restored the next day" he states again that he took "six warm up laps and then started using the car" he took four laps total in the 360. the 360 turns in a little easier one because it has power stearing and is lighter. the 360 is lacking in power as compared to the F40. the F40 feels more at home on the track than the 360, so Brock's comparisions here are also off. nothing like spending the money and time to make the trip, bring two mechanics with me and they helped everyone else out on my nickel, I never ended up needing them. it was also my mechanic the identified the fact that it was Chris's master cylinder that had a leak and that was the problem. it would have been nice if Brock took even one second to ask any questions about my cars, why the throttle is stiff in the begging, etc. and it would have also been nice if he said "Thank you" for letting my drive a half million dollars worth of your cars because I'm really going to make your car sound like sh*t in the article. F40 Spectacular my ass !! I am very dissapointed in Forza magazine for printing such garbage and I am very dissapointed in Peter Brock. you would think that someone with his background and experience could must something at least a little better than that. owe ya Peter, and your welcome for me buying you and your crew dinner. he forgot to say thanks then too. this is in no way a reflection on Chris. I appreciate his generosity in track time and his hospitality. I am glad Chris got his car in the magazine and especially on the cover. | ||
| chris cummings (Entelechy)
Junior Member Username: Entelechy Post Number: 129 Registered: 5-2001 |
Being on location on a film in Alabama, I'm a little behind the curve. Just picked up the latest issue of Forza this weekend and was thrilled to see Chris in the article (and Tim too - I kept hoping for a shot of all three F40's because they kept referencing them in the article! As I recall they don't even mention driving the third! Bummer Tim...) I met Chris out at California Speedway at FCA/LA and he instantly welcomed me to his group, despite never having met me. His car is truly stunning and I had a great time filming some interviews with him and trying to keep up with his car passing an F50 on the track. Chris, I tried e-mailing you before, but didn't receive a resoponse. If you like, I'd be happy to send you a copy of the footage I shot that day. Just let me know :-) Congrats again on the article and glad to hear you've got the braked dialed in! ~Chris | ||
| Cmparrf40 (Cmparrf40)
Member Username: Cmparrf40 Post Number: 459 Registered: 3-2002 |
No, my F40 was not at Concorso Italiano. It was still at Brembo in Costa Mesa. (I was there, but I do not have a carbon fiber wing) lol | ||
| Modified348ts (Modman)
Member Username: Modman Post Number: 408 Registered: 11-2001 |
Chris, was your car at the Monterey Concourso? I remembered seeing an F40 with a carbon fiber wing. | ||
| Cmparrf40 (Cmparrf40)
Member Username: Cmparrf40 Post Number: 458 Registered: 3-2002 |
A F40 has a 5 speed. Unfortuneatly I did not get to read the proof before it went to print. The other noticeable mistake is stating that a stock F40 has a vacuum assist on the brakes, they do not. But for the most part, the article was very well done. The red knob is an adjustment for the balance bar between the 2 master cylinders, since each master only controls the front or rear brake, the balance bar adjustments acts as a proportioning valve. I also have a remote knob that can be mounted inside the car so I can adjust the brakes while on the track, but quite frankly the balance is so good, no adjustment has been necassary. Chris | ||
| BretM (Bretm)
Advanced Member Username: Bretm Post Number: 2774 Registered: 2-2001 |
The F40 has 5 forward gears. Chris, Is that red knob for proportioning? Wilwood makes a valve that can be installed in a place of the 308s unadjustable system, was thinking of putting it in so I could set the bias how I want. I rebuilt a F40s master cylinder a couple months ago, working on it so cool, but so nerve racking because everything is so paper thin and easy to break under there if you don't watch out, luckily I have yet to come across that problem. | ||
| Matt Karson (Squidracing)
Junior Member Username: Squidracing Post Number: 197 Registered: 3-2001 |
Yeah, funny feeling, that brake pedal without power assist huh? Awesome after getting used to it though. Let me know if you need some additional driver feedback, Ill fly out on a moments notice. | ||
| Ben Lobenstein 90 TR (Benjet)
Member Username: Benjet Post Number: 827 Registered: 1-2001 |
Bob, (tonge in cheek) it's a race car, the pit crew provides reverse. -Ben | ||
| BobD (Bobd)
Member Username: Bobd Post Number: 698 Registered: 3-2001 |
Randy....hmmm, Ferrari.com states the F40 had a 5-speed: http://www.ferrari.com/cgi-bin/fworld.dll/ferrariworld/scripts/gt/car_data.jsp?car_type=GT&CAR_ID=F_40 Looks to me like the gate in the Forza pic has only 6 slots (like my 5-speed 328). If it's a 6-speed, where's reverse???? | ||
| Randy (Schatten)
Member Username: Schatten Post Number: 427 Registered: 4-2001 |
I thought so too Bob, but check out this site: http://www.racecar.co.uk/hwmnet/gf40.htm nice site btw. details about the 6 speed at the bottom. | ||
| Racer 001 (Mr_0011)
Member Username: Mr_0011 Post Number: 292 Registered: 3-2002 |
Sweet! Congrats on getting on the cover. Any F50 owners here have their car on a cover? | ||
| BobD (Bobd)
Member Username: Bobd Post Number: 697 Registered: 3-2001 |
Chris, the article states, "...F40 uses Ferrari's signature gated 6-speed." Did you drop a new tranny in there too or are they counting reverse as a gear??? I thought F40s had 5-speeds with a ZF diff? | ||
| Rob Lay (Rob328gts)
Board Administrator Username: Rob328gts Post Number: 2494 Registered: 12-2000 |
My subscription costs $200 an issue, although they give me a little FerrariChat.com ad too. I guess quick delivery is a fringe benefit of being a playa. | ||
| Manu Sachdeva (Manu)
Member Username: Manu Post Number: 498 Registered: 2-2002 |
FANTASTIC CHRIS - looks like some serious preparation has gone into that F40! | ||
| Ken Thomas (Future328driver)
Junior Member Username: Future328driver Post Number: 213 Registered: 12-2001 |
Hey Rob, I think Chris needs to bring the F40 down to MSR so he can take us for a spin. I could die a happy man after a F40 ride (I would die even happier if I owned one ) I am still trying to figure out how you get your Forza issues before I get mine - you always have the scoop. | ||
| ross koller (Ross)
Member Username: Ross Post Number: 451 Registered: 3-2002 |
anybody have an email address for forza? | ||
| Cmparrf40 (Cmparrf40)
Member Username: Cmparrf40 Post Number: 457 Registered: 3-2002 |
Matt, no power assist and it does not need it! It is like pushing down on a brick, it is so nice. The car squats so evenly underbraking almost 0 dive. It is so nice not to have to worry about brakes! | ||
| Rob Lay (Rob328gts)
Board Administrator Username: Rob328gts Post Number: 2493 Registered: 12-2000 |
It really is! Who would look for a meth lab under a F40 bonnet? | ||
| Matt Karson (Squidracing)
Junior Member Username: Squidracing Post Number: 196 Registered: 3-2001 |
Beautiful system Chris. Is there power assist? I have hotlapped with a Michelotto (spelling?) braking system that was not power assisted, and man oh man did it ever take some getting used to. | ||
| TomD (Tifosi)
Intermediate Member Username: Tifosi Post Number: 1549 Registered: 9-2001 |
nice - looks right out of a lab. | ||
| Rob Lay (Rob328gts)
Board Administrator Username: Rob328gts Post Number: 2492 Registered: 12-2000 |
Chris's custom dual master cylinder setup...            | ||
| Rob Lay (Rob328gts)
Board Administrator Username: Rob328gts Post Number: 2491 Registered: 12-2000 |
Was this your car Whart?  | ||
| BobD (Bobd)
Member Username: Bobd Post Number: 696 Registered: 3-2001 |
Whart, your Barchetta was also on the cover of Forza about a year ago, wasn't it? Chris, great article! | ||
| Cmparrf40 (Cmparrf40)
Member Username: Cmparrf40 Post Number: 456 Registered: 3-2002 |
William I saw you Barchetta in the FML, I wish I had some spare change! I actually saw you at FCA in LA, you were driving in and I was on my balcony, by the time I ran down stairs, you were gone. I think it is so cool you drive your cars, I think we are very much alike on that issue! I do wonder what you can replace the Barchetta with that will be as much fun! | ||
| wm hart (Whart)
Member Username: Whart Post Number: 550 Registered: 12-2001 |
You are now a member of a very select club (that also includes me!). Congrats. | ||
| Cmparrf40 (Cmparrf40)
Member Username: Cmparrf40 Post Number: 455 Registered: 3-2002 |
Yes, the duals are incredible! I now have about 1/4 inch of brake pedal. I was at PPIR a few weeks ago and running very hard, 0% fade, even after 30 minutes. We were running 1:03 to 1:04's so we were working the brakes. We were outbraking every thing on the track by a wide margin, Brembo and Chris Hill did an excellent job! Rob, I will email you pic's of the dual set up for you to post right now. Chris | ||
| Rob Lay (Rob328gts)
Board Administrator Username: Rob328gts Post Number: 2490 Registered: 12-2000 |
Have you had it on the track since getting a dual master cylinder? | ||
| Cmparrf40 (Cmparrf40)
Member Username: Cmparrf40 Post Number: 454 Registered: 3-2002 |
I should mention Tim Gendreau is mentioned in this article as well, unfortuneatly the editor did not include a picture of all 3 F40's. I was very disappointed that Tim's car did not make it in. Thanks Tim for being such a good sport! Chris | ||
| Rob Lay (Rob328gts)
Board Administrator Username: Rob328gts Post Number: 2489 Registered: 12-2000 |
Forza Subscription: 1 year 8 issues $ 24.95, 2 year: $ 45, 3 years: $ 64 FORZA Circulation Dept. P.O.BOX: 1529 Ross, CA 94957 | ||
| Matt Karson (Squidracing)
Junior Member Username: Squidracing Post Number: 194 Registered: 3-2001 |
Here you go.....  | ||
| Randy (Schatten)
Member Username: Schatten Post Number: 426 Registered: 4-2001 |
no idea, looking all over their site now. I just bought an issue at the bookstore and send in the subscription card. | ||
| Cmparrf40 (Cmparrf40)
Member Username: Cmparrf40 Post Number: 453 Registered: 3-2002 |
I did not think it was possible to own a Ferrari and not subscribe to Forza! I like John Barnes who owns Cavallino and I due subscribe, but it deals mainly with historically significant Ferrari's from the 50's and 60's. Forza is for all of us, with production based Ferrari's! Chris | ||
| Greg Rodgers (Joechristmas)
Member Username: Joechristmas Post Number: 506 Registered: 3-2001 |
I went to the links and could only look at the covers of past issues. | ||
| Rob Lay (Rob328gts)
Board Administrator Username: Rob328gts Post Number: 2486 Registered: 12-2000 |
You guys don't get Forza! Every Ferrari person has to have at minimum a subscription to Forza and Cavallino. Check the links page. | ||
| Jim Schad (Jim_schad)
Member Username: Jim_schad Post Number: 325 Registered: 7-2002 |
Where do I subscribe to Forza? Cost? | ||
| Schumi (Schumi)
Junior Member Username: Schumi Post Number: 71 Registered: 6-2002 |
How about someone smart posting the cover pic so those of us who do not get Forza can see it? Thanks | ||
| Dan (Bobafett)
New member Username: Bobafett Post Number: 50 Registered: 9-2002 |
Chris Parr, I'm assuming? No wonder he knew Forza was going to have an issue on F40's. ;) --Dan | ||
| Rob Lay (Rob328gts)
Board Administrator Username: Rob328gts Post Number: 2481 Registered: 12-2000 |
Beautiful picture. I haven't opened the issue up yet. As far as my banners missing Brembo by 1 hour so FerrariChat.com could of been on your car instead of very short term former sponsor Wheel Kinetics... •••• •••• •••• Anyone else think they'll be on a magazine cover. Please tell me. I already have 49 in stock for next time and I won't over night them the day before. |