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J.D. Smythe (Jeff)
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Post Number: 67
Registered: 2-2001
Posted on Friday, October 25, 2002 - 4:46 pm:   

According to the 360 Manual, even with your foot on the brake pedal, after 10 minutes the transmission WILL shift into neutral. The manual suggests putting the car into neutral for prolonged stops

The transmission will also shift into nuetral if the brake pedal or gas pedal is not touched in 4 seconds.

I'm still looking for an answer to the other question
Ernesto (T88power)
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Post Number: 829
Registered: 2-2001
Posted on Friday, October 25, 2002 - 12:35 pm:   

Viken is right - if you leave your foot on the brake, the car will stay in first gear and will not go into N, regardless of the amount of time standing still. If your foot in not on the brake, it will automatically shift into N after a few seconds.

Regarding the second question, I believe the clutch in engaged when standing still in gear, and NOT engaged if in N. I am not 100% sure on this one though, just an "intelligent" guess.

Ernesto
Jason Fraser (Jfraser)
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Post Number: 135
Registered: 3-2001
Posted on Friday, October 25, 2002 - 12:27 pm:   

Viken,
If you leave the car in 1st....the box will eventually kick you out of 1st regardless of whether your foot is on the brake....it's part of the clutch overheat protection system.....and I'm not trying to be argumentative, but the clutch is definately partially engaged in 1st, with your foot on the brake
Viken Bedrossian (Vikenb)
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Username: Vikenb

Post Number: 203
Registered: 5-2001
Posted on Friday, October 25, 2002 - 11:11 am:   

>> If you leave it in 1st long enough, it will automatically pop out of gear <<

It will only do this if your foot is NOT on the brake pedal. Also, when first is engaged with your foot on the brake, the clutch is NOT engaged. No different from a manual with your foot down on the clutch pedal. As such, it doesn't matter whether you are in neutral or in first with your foot on the brake.
Robert (Rjklein4470)
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Username: Rjklein4470

Post Number: 189
Registered: 3-2002
Posted on Friday, October 25, 2002 - 11:00 am:   

Remember the F1 transmission is the same as a Manual, so if you sit at the light with the clutch in you are holding the through out bearing against the flywheel. This will wear out the bearing after time so at lights put it in " N "

Willis Huang (Willis360)
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Username: Willis360

Post Number: 986
Registered: 8-2001
Posted on Friday, October 25, 2002 - 10:48 am:   

I alway engage neutral at stops.
acw (Acw)
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Username: Acw

Post Number: 125
Registered: 2-2002
Posted on Friday, October 25, 2002 - 10:22 am:   

I always assumed that when the car is not moving, the F1 box fully disengages the clutch, not allowing any friction. Are you saying that the clutch is still somewhat engaged when the car does not move?

Thanks for the great tip.

ACW
van mollenberg (Vanny)
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Username: Vanny

Post Number: 93
Registered: 4-2001
Posted on Friday, October 25, 2002 - 9:47 am:   

when i come to a light or stop sign-i always go to neutral and coast -use your breaks -a lot cheaper to replace pads than a tranny.mechanics advised of this -just my input
Dave Penhale (Dapper)
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Post Number: 315
Registered: 4-2002
Posted on Friday, October 25, 2002 - 7:14 am:   

Had a race driver tell me a few stories about this only last weekend. People leaving 360 F1 in 1st gear at the lights, the car then drops into N and the driver goes to pull away, mucho revs no action and the car behind, expecting a F to tear away from the traffic lights, hits the F car up the rear!

A few 360's in the uk already have rebuilt rear ends as a result of this....be v'careful about leaving her in 1st!
Jason Fraser (Jfraser)
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Username: Jfraser

Post Number: 134
Registered: 3-2001
Posted on Thursday, October 24, 2002 - 9:54 pm:   

You should definately be in neutral whilst sitting in traffic.....If you leave it in 1st long enough, it will automatically pop out of gear.....Even in auto mode, it should be in neutral at a stop light, that's why it will let you select 1st gear with the paddle (without dropping out of auto mode.)As I'm sure you are aware normally in auto mode a paddle shift will deactivate the auto system. It really isn't good to sit in 1st (it's very easy to overheat the clutch....)
JM Zarka (Crazy_horse)
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Username: Crazy_horse

Post Number: 27
Registered: 2-2002
Posted on Thursday, October 24, 2002 - 4:18 pm:   

Or while waiting at a red light. Will the transmission wear out less if you put it in neutral whenever possible as opposed to being in Auto mode with 1st gear engaged ?

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