| Author | Message | ||
| Sean Ruckel (Sruckel)
Junior Member Username: Sruckel Post Number: 91 Registered: 10-2001 |
333SP has a sweet sound. I was fortunate to be in the pit crew of an ALMS team when Doyle-Risi were running a few, as well as other teams, so I've got many videos of their cars. I'll try to remember to convert some of the footage and post it somewhere. I do have two short clips of the 355 Challenge cars going through the corkscrew at Laguna Seca in 1999. They're hosted at Geocities, so if too many people click on them, they lock up the page for an hour, so please be patient. http://www.geocities.com/seanvideos/videos/ferrarichallenge_ls.mpg http://www.geocities.com/seanvideos/videos/ferrarichallenge2_ls.mpg | ||
| David P. Smith (Dave330gtc)
New member Username: Dave330gtc Post Number: 39 Registered: 3-2002 |
I remember a number of years ago at Road America I was standing next to a 512BBLM when it fired up. It was probably the most painfully loud car that I have ever heard. Very exciting. | ||
| BretM (Bretm)
Advanced Member Username: Bretm Post Number: 2805 Registered: 2-2001 |
We have 2 333SPs at work, friggin amazing cars. I've never heard them on the track though unfortunately, but a couple times idling and revving. It sounds like no other car I have ever come across, like Tim said it's like a gigantic motorcycle but cooler. I don't know much about the engine specs, I should look into finding out. The engine and drivetrain are very very cool setups though when you get to see them apart from the carbon fiber tub. I'm always surprised at how loud the F50s are (the street ones). It seems that going the Tubi route is popular as I can't picture them being so loud stock, although you never know. I thought the 308 was loud until the first time I heard an F50 start up next to me a couple years ago. I too am surprised at how far away you can hear the 308/328. One time my dad took it out (on occasion, like maybe 3 times in the last two years, I have a kind heart and toss him the keys) and I could hear him coming back like a 1/4 mile away in the fairly urban area where my grandfather lives. | ||
| Tim N (Timn88)
Intermediate Member Username: Timn88 Post Number: 1530 Registered: 6-2001 |
Ive heard the 333sp in a garage once being revved to only about 8 grand. needless to say, my ears were ringing for a while, but it was worth it. They sound even better on the track though. I dont know how they let one run at lime rock, it was way over the sound limit. It sounded like 6 superbikes going by, only deeper. You coud pretty much hear it from anywhere on the track whenever the driver was on the gas. | ||
| Kevin Butler (Challenge)
New member Username: Challenge Post Number: 13 Registered: 9-2002 |
William, I agree with the F50GT, although I have never seen an F50 or F50GT in real life. (There are only three F50GT's in existence). Check the sound under downshifting: http://www.sisi.net/doug/f50_fontana_start_final_rev2.wmv http://www.sisi.net/doug/f50_fontana_part2_final_rev2.wmv A buddy of mine was a Ferrari tech and told me that one F50GT owner took his out on the track the day he got it. He quickly spun it and it scared him so bad he didn't complete the lap; he drove the wrong way all the way back to the pits! | ||
| Horsefly (Arlie)
Member Username: Arlie Post Number: 329 Registered: 5-2002 |
James, thanks for the "Sounds of Sebring" tales! I could also be a year or so off when stating the year that the record was made. My record is in storage and I will check on the exact date when I get a chance. Maybe if I listen closely, I can hear you begging for a ride in the background noise. It must have been a thrill to be there. | ||
| Hubert Otlik (Hugh)
Member Username: Hugh Post Number: 273 Registered: 1-2002 |
Usually, a car w/ cats and FI that gets an aftermarket exhaust just gets louder; however, once the cats are removed the note gets considerably louder, and theres an added rasp; 9 times out of 10 you can pick out the illegal car. The older cars, in comparisson, may sound close to the un-cated modern cars simply b/c they never had the cats to begin w/; however, compression ratios have some influence in engine sound, so do engine mounts, intake manifold design and layout, length of the exhaust system, cylinder bank angle, and firing order. And, speaking of sounds: http://members.cox.net/kimini22/car/sounds/testing1.mp3 http://members.cox.net/kimini22/car/sounds/testing2.mp3 May need to cut and paste. | ||
| John L. Jordan Jr. (Up2nogd)
Junior Member Username: Up2nogd Post Number: 70 Registered: 8-2002 |
I know this is going to sound really stupid, but here goes! How do you know if your Ferrari is street legal with regards to sound? I recently put a Tubi and Test pipe on my 328 - the first day out a friend swears he could hear me 1/2 mile away??? Today a guy at the parts store said he was looking for whatever was making the "noise" for 2-3 minutes before I got there- It doesn't sound that loud to me - I just turn the radio up a little louder  Johnny | ||
| Rijk Rietveld (Rijk365gtb4)
Junior Member Username: Rijk365gtb4 Post Number: 63 Registered: 1-2002 |
How about the street-legal sounds? The newer ferraris are too quiet unless you are going full-out or add a Tubi. I love the sounds of the older V12 cars: loud and street-legal. | ||
| James Selevan (Jselevan)
Junior Member Username: Jselevan Post Number: 177 Registered: 6-2002 |
Arlie - funny you should mention "The Sounds of Sebring." I was there that year. I thought it was a year or two later (1960-61) as I remember buying the record after attending the race. I was just a young teenager lusting over Ferraris. During the night run at the 24 hour Daytona (1965, 66, 67) you would have to identify cars approaching by their sound. Ferrari was quite distinctive. The GT40s blended with the Corvettes, and were difficult to distinguish. The Porsche 917 sounded like a scream - really like a scream, while the P3 and P4 (and later 512s) were more of a melodic whine. I have some old photos of Sterling Moss, Phil Hill, Graham Hill, Jackie Stewart, and Jimmy Clark, and John Surtees walking through the pits of Wakins Glen during the 1966 Grand Prix, along with Mark Donahue at Daytona in 1966. Wish I had a better camera and other than youthful appreciation for the value of these photos at the time. Daytona in those days had little security, and one could enter the pits, or any place on the track, with little difficulty. One place in particular that I spent hours at was the exit from the infield to the back banked straight. The big guys (917s, P3s, 512s, and GT40s) would drift under full power in third gear as they exited the tight left hander on to the straight. You could stand against the wall, which they consistently missed by inches, and take great photos of their strained countenance as they leaned left against the G-forces. I am reminded of these great races everyday of my life, as I have lost my high frequency hearing as a result of those engines. One last memory. An interview with Graham Hill during a rainy LeMans (can't remember if it was 1965,66,67) led to the question of the effectiveness of the windshield wiper on the back straight at 220 mph (yes -they were going this fast in the rain). His reply - typical British - was with a pause, then "I turn the wiper off. Nothing sticks to the windshield at 220 mph." And after his one appearance at Indy, at which, if I remember correctly he had a shunt, he was asked about the apparent delay in exiting the car after the crash. The interviewer asked him, "Mr. Hill, after the crash, weren't you afraid of fire? You seemed to stay in the car without moving for a long period before unbuckling and getting out. We thought you were hurt." His response was, "One must be careful not to get out to quickly during a shunt. They silence at the end can be tricky - it may mean that you're airborne." (I apologize if I have a year off here or there as I am challenging my memory of 38 years ago.) Jim S. | ||
| Tino (Bboxer)
Junior Member Username: Bboxer Post Number: 165 Registered: 8-2001 |
While visiting the factory last month on the Monday following the Italian GP, we kept hearing F1 sounds from Fiorano thruout the morning. I was surprised they would be testing again so soon after the race until I drove to the track and spotted a yellow Enzo being tested, that's how good the car sounds ! | ||
| william speer (Wspeer)
Junior Member Username: Wspeer Post Number: 63 Registered: 8-2002 |
the ferrari f50 gt sounds unbelievable at full speed | ||
| Racer 001 (Mr_0011)
Member Username: Mr_0011 Post Number: 299 Registered: 3-2002 |
The F1's and the F50 sound the best IMHO. | ||
| David P. Smith (Dave330gtc)
New member Username: Dave330gtc Post Number: 38 Registered: 3-2002 |
Hello David J. I have heard the 333SP in person and it is just like the Speedvision show except more so. It will definitely give you shivers running up your back. | ||
| Horsefly (Arlie)
Member Username: Arlie Post Number: 328 Registered: 5-2002 |
I have an old 33 rpm stereo record that I bought a few years ago. It's called "The Sounds of Sebring". Recorded in 1959 at Sebring, it has various tracks of all the great race cars from that era including Ferrari. It was recorded in stereo with excellent microphone placement. It is really wild to listen to the Ferraris and other high revving cars flying by inside your head when using headphones. My particular record was in like new condition so the sound quality is excellent with no pops or clicks. It's almost like traveling back in time listening to the cars "live" in 1959. | ||
| David J. Smith (Darkhorse512)
New member Username: Darkhorse512 Post Number: 13 Registered: 10-2002 |
I bet the 333sp in person must be a sensory overload. I've only heard it on that "Victory by Design" show on the speed channel. 1 part induction shreek, 1 part gear whistle, 1 part exhaust rumble and 2 parts compression "raaah". And don't forget the pounding hum of big tires. Come to think of it thats the recipie for all F-car sounds. Whats really cool is this sound clip I have of Schumacher testing the F2002. When he goes from 2nd into 3rd at full throttle you can barely hear the wings start to howl with down force. | ||
| Rob Lay (Rob328gts)
Board Administrator Username: Rob328gts Post Number: 2540 Registered: 12-2000 |
The sound of F1's coming down the front straight at Indy has been the highlight of my Ferrari sound experience. I've heard one of the best sounding street Ferraris is a BB. Here are sound files from our Norwood Dyno day this year... http://www.pinball.nu/ferrari/norwood-dyno-day/ | ||
| Aaron Williams (Aawil)
New member Username: Aawil Post Number: 12 Registered: 8-2002 |
The few times I've heard ferrari's in person this year's "Cruise down memory lane" all american car show comes to mind. As I was going in a 308 pulled up wanting to put his car in of course they didn't let him.When he backed it up and hit it a little it was like a symphony playing I was blew away by it.Needless to say It ruined the fun of that show I already saw the best thing there. | ||
| Kevin Butler (Challenge)
New member Username: Challenge Post Number: 12 Registered: 9-2002 |
As much passion as there is on this board for all things Ferrari, I am somewhat surprised there hasn't been more discussion on the incredible noises that these monsters produce. Each Ferrari makes a different sound/pitch/volume. I have too many Ferrari memories to type here, but here are some of my favorites: * 1980 512 BB/LM on a warm-up lap. VERY loud, mechanical whine, throaty pipes gurgling between shifts like an 18-wheeler. Sounds like it's always geared too high...like it wants to rip the asphalt up. * 355 Challenge at VIR's main straight. That hollow Tubi sound. The sounds between 3rd and 4th gear take the Doppler effect to new meaning. * 550GT. Awesome, all-business screamer. Forget mufflers. You will see this one right before you hear it, and you will hear it long after it has passed. * 333SP. What can I say? If you have had the privilege of hearing this beast firsthand, you know what I mean. Sportbike-precision whine, that snappy-revving scream that exudes money. Makes you seriously consider grand larceny. Maybe just once... What are your favorite F-car sounds? |