| Author | Message | ||
| Dr Tommy Cosgrove (Vwalfa4re)
Member Username: Vwalfa4re Post Number: 389 Registered: 5-2001 |
Thanks for the picture, David. I wanted to see the 10th digit (a letter, actually). It is used to designate the model year for models produced for the U.S. market. A=1980, B=1981, C=1982 and so on. Here it is "C" so Ferrari built it for the 1982 model year. | ||
| Matt Lemus (Mlemus)
Member Username: Mlemus Post Number: 324 Registered: 8-2002 |
That car was not taken care of before the fire. Hence the purolator oil filter. Why are there burn marks on the passenger side of the shifter? | ||
| Kelly (Tifosi1)
Member Username: Tifosi1 Post Number: 463 Registered: 2-2002 |
He hsould have just let it burn the whole way. | ||
| Tim N (Timn88)
Intermediate Member Username: Timn88 Post Number: 1538 Registered: 6-2001 |
What the hell is the point of reserve prices on ebay? why not just make everyone start the auction at the lowest price they would accept? it makes no sense to me | ||
| David Jones (Dave)
Member Username: Dave Post Number: 403 Registered: 4-2001 |
Tommy, Im sure it was probably registered as an 82, but here is the door vin sticker.  | ||
| Tim N (Timn88)
Intermediate Member Username: Timn88 Post Number: 1535 Registered: 6-2001 |
Its also rusted. If they used a certain type of fire extinguisher, the powder will oxidze metal. | ||
| Horsefly (Arlie)
Member Username: Arlie Post Number: 351 Registered: 5-2002 |
Don't let Dave Jones throw you guys off. He can't fool me. He's probably loading up his trailer and heading for Florida right now with his laptop in his bag so that he can bid all along the way! | ||
| Dr Tommy Cosgrove (Vwalfa4re)
Member Username: Vwalfa4re Post Number: 373 Registered: 5-2001 |
David-how can you tell it's an 81 not an 82? | ||
| Mark (Markg)
Member Username: Markg Post Number: 302 Registered: 2-2001 |
Erik- what caused the fires in your '82? | ||
| David Jones (Dave)
Member Username: Dave Post Number: 402 Registered: 4-2001 |
OK, lets do the math... The car is actually a 1981, not a 1982, but no big deal... It has a salvage title, which means it will always affect the cars resale value... The guy wants what, $15,000.00 for the car... Not doing the paint yourself, having a shop repaint a 308 can cost up to $10,000.00 when all is said and done... But lets say you get cheap and do a $5,000.00 paint job, and spend say $8,000.00 for the needed parts to complete the car, not including labor, and we all know time is money... If you earn more per hour than a auto repair shop charges, say you earn $150.00 an hour, and they charge $60.00 an hour labor, common sense dictates you let joes garrage do the repairs... But even if you did all the rapairs yourself you are still out $28,000.00 for a salvage title car... Could you not buy a nice clean 308 any day of the week for that kind of money, and be driving the car insted of taking a year of your time to repair it? | ||
| Dr Tommy Cosgrove (Vwalfa4re)
Member Username: Vwalfa4re Post Number: 369 Registered: 5-2001 |
It's a $10k car max in my opinion. I would buy it for parts. I would take it home and unscrew every bodypanel and interior part I could and store them in my car storeroom out back. If somebody hits me or if I spin off the track badly I have the fender or control arm that I need. | ||
| Erik R. Jonsson (Gamester)
Junior Member Username: Gamester Post Number: 168 Registered: 11-2000 |
I completely rebuilt a car in worse shape than this for under 10,000- it also had an engine fire. Don't be so hard on it, it can be done. BUT- it is a royal pain. Someone wanting a project can do it but must realize it took me over a year to put it back in a 8 condition, and it will cost them bare minimum $5000 doing all the work themselves. Definately on the BEWARE list. BTW I will be redoing my reburn and seeking parts, as my 82 gtsi is now a twicebaked. Erik | ||
| Ken (Allyn)
Member Username: Allyn Post Number: 541 Registered: 10-2001 |
There are too many 308's out there. The demand is low enough that a burnt/falling apart car is not worth it to restore. If you have $30k in your pocket, you can get a well maintained '82 308 and likely have change left for gas and Ferrari logo shoelaces. The cost of this car plus the cost of repairs to this car, plus all the other issues this car is likely to have (what started the fire in the first place? Is it fixed?) will easily put you over $30k. That is the effect the silly prices for parts has on these old works of art. Eventually enough cars will have rotted away that the demand will start prices rising to the point the remaining cars will be saved. | ||
| Horsefly (Arlie)
Member Username: Arlie Post Number: 339 Registered: 5-2002 |
10 or 20 years from now, guys will be crying at the thought of parting out such a complete Ferrari. It's happened many, many times in the history of classic cars. Of course it is not economically feasible to restore that car at this time. For the money, you could buy a nice complete car and drive it away. But when it comes down to it, is any Ferrari or other sports car REALLY economically feasible in the first place? They are all money pits to begin with anyhow. Overpriced, expensive to repair and service, expensive to insure. So none of them are really economically feasible. I hope somebody saves that car. Years from now, somebody will be glad they did. | ||
| Ken Thomas (Future328driver)
Junior Member Username: Future328driver Post Number: 224 Registered: 12-2001 |
Crap. It looks like some serious cash to fix. | ||
| David Jones (Dave)
Member Username: Dave Post Number: 394 Registered: 4-2001 |
I think you guys are all nuts if you pass this one up... It would make the perfect Ferrari backyard grill & barbecue... ;) | ||
| magoo (Magoo)
Advanced Member Username: Magoo Post Number: 3296 Registered: 2-2001 |
Last chance guys, Better get your bids in. | ||
| Mark (Markg)
Member Username: Markg Post Number: 295 Registered: 2-2001 |
I agree with the 'trash' opinions; looks like the fire started in the injection plenum area (why-backfire?); these alone will cost more than it's worth. Wiring and belts will need to be changed - $5,000+ if farmed out (and I would recomend that these repairs be done by someone who is VERY familiar with 308 restorations!); paint will run another $1500+ and God only knows how much a new deck lid vent/grill will cost! I have an '82 GTSi, and they are a bit slower than the carb versions if left stock. On the pluse side I have driven mine from Colorado over Vail pass (11,000ft) to sea level in one trip without any noticable fuel delivery problems or starting problems (but it does run better at sea level!). No rejetting, no venturi size issues, just get in and drive. | ||
| Paul (Pcelenta)
Junior Member Username: Pcelenta Post Number: 192 Registered: 7-2002 |
I would recommend bringing it over to Satrielle's Pork store to be chopped up! worth more in parts than the effort to repair it. | ||
| David J. Smith (Darkhorse512)
New member Username: Darkhorse512 Post Number: 16 Registered: 10-2002 |
Trash. Pretty trash, but trash. I was going to draw famous a Hollywood actress with rural roots refference but it would be too easy. | ||
| Dave Penhale (Dapper)
Member Username: Dapper Post Number: 325 Registered: 4-2002 |
What a dog, before the fire! Pre fire 8 out of 10, yeh right whose he kiddin, maybe a 4. Reading the 'terms of sale' make it sound like he's a REAL friendly type to deal with. The buyer will get EXACTLY what they deserve. | ||
| magoo (Magoo)
Advanced Member Username: Magoo Post Number: 3288 Registered: 2-2001 |
It already has had a parts only title. Also if all it needs, as they say, is some wires, paint etc., they could have made more money on the car if they had it running. No keys, bunch of crap. | ||
| Steve Magnusson (91tr)
Intermediate Member Username: 91tr Post Number: 1155 Registered: 1-2001 |
Parts car -- overpriced at $10K. | ||
| Edward Gault (Irfgt)
Intermediate Member Username: Irfgt Post Number: 2158 Registered: 2-2001 |
That SOB is burned all to hell. It would cost more to fix it than it would ever be worth if they gave it to you. If it wasn't burned it needs $20,000 worth of restoration. The fire damage is probably another $20,000 and you will still have an 82 Ferrari 308 when all is finished. It is a Parts car only. | ||
| Gene Agatep (Gagatep)
New member Username: Gagatep Post Number: 41 Registered: 8-2002 |
I just checked the post and its not worth $10,900 (reserve not met yet) i'd take it as a runner for $8K tops | ||
| Robert McNair (Rrm)
Junior Member Username: Rrm Post Number: 146 Registered: 5-2002 |
I have noticed a lot more fixer up 308's in the last couple of months. This market seems to be growing. I am always tempted but I think buying a straight car is cheaper in the long run. | ||
| Martin (Miami348ts)
Advanced Member Username: Miami348ts Post Number: 3061 Registered: 5-2001 |
Hey JoeChristmas, same seller. Trash if you ask me! The car needs lots of $$$ to fix and is not worth that much in the first place. | ||
| Tillman Strahan (Tillman)
Junior Member Username: Tillman Post Number: 100 Registered: 11-2001 |
A 60K mile 2 valve isn't worth 28-33K unburned, regardless of the seller's hype. I know the current price isn't near that level, but there's not much room left before you get into running 308s. There's a reason that the insurance company/previous owner didn't fix the car. If you want a sub 15K project, there's several running(ish) 308GT4s here in Texas that will probably do you better. | ||
| Horsefly (Arlie)
Member Username: Arlie Post Number: 333 Registered: 5-2002 |
What do you guys make of this one? http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1871252562 Worthy project or run away fast? How much fire is too much fire? |