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Frank Parker (Parkerfe)
Intermediate Member
Username: Parkerfe
Post Number: 1472
Registered: 9-2001
| | Posted on Monday, November 04, 2002 - 8:25 am: | |
David, please give me your e-mail address and I will give you the particulars on my 348 Spider. Thanks, Frank |
TomD (Tifosi)
Intermediate Member
Username: Tifosi
Post Number: 1610
Registered: 9-2001
| | Posted on Monday, November 04, 2002 - 7:28 am: | |
I think total capacity is 110 liters not each tank. 60 gallons of fuel is a little much |
David Feinberg (Fastradio2)
Junior Member
Username: Fastradio2
Post Number: 196
Registered: 4-2002
| | Posted on Monday, November 04, 2002 - 7:26 am: | |
Ross...
Fuel tank capacity seems about right. I remember once filling up my 365BB, and taking on about 30 gallons of fuel. Hoever, fuel economy is not the BBs' forte.
City driving: 7-10mpg
Highway: 10-15mpg, taking great efforts to stay within twice the posted speed limit
David |
ross koller (Ross)
Member
Username: Ross
Post Number: 506
Registered: 3-2002
| | Posted on Monday, November 04, 2002 - 6:07 am: | |
ferrariworld website says this car had 2 fuel tanks, each of 110 ltrs. is this right? that would make for an incredible range. |
James Selevan (Jselevan)
Junior Member
Username: Jselevan
Post Number: 197
Registered: 6-2002
| | Posted on Sunday, November 03, 2002 - 9:52 pm: | |
Grant - I do have pictures. Old style - silver film and all that. I will have them developed and scan them in. Engine is to die for.
More to come.
Jim S. |
Grant Gilmour (Grantgilmour)
New member
Username: Grantgilmour
Post Number: 23
Registered: 8-2002
| | Posted on Sunday, November 03, 2002 - 1:26 pm: | |
Jim, I'm in the same boat. The engine went back in my bb last week after a full rebuild. We start it for the first time next week. Do you have any pictures of your rebuild?
Grant |
Armen Gugasian (Ag512bbi)
New member
Username: Ag512bbi
Post Number: 2
Registered: 6-2002
| | Posted on Sunday, November 03, 2002 - 11:21 am: | |
Frank,
Go for the Boxer. I've had one for 18 years. I will NEVER sell it. It is alot of fun to drive Alot of power and fits in with the classic Ferraris. 12 Cylinders!!!!!!! |
James Selevan (Jselevan)
Junior Member
Username: Jselevan
Post Number: 196
Registered: 6-2002
| | Posted on Saturday, November 02, 2002 - 10:07 pm: | |
My Boxer engine should be done next week. Bill Gojkov (Enzo Motors in Anaheim), one of the most respected Ferrari experts in Southern California, has done a remarkable job of restoring every nut, bolt and plate. The engine is as new, right out of the factory, and accurate in every detail. This was precipitated by the 30K service. It's amazing what happens to these engines as various people work on them over 20 years. Can't wait to get it back. More to come.
Jim S. |
Edward Gault (Irfgt)
Intermediate Member
Username: Irfgt
Post Number: 2190
Registered: 2-2001
| | Posted on Saturday, November 02, 2002 - 8:02 pm: | |
I know where the Coupe De Ville is you are looking for. I have a customer that just pulled one out of his garage with 14,000 actual miles on it. Pale yellow with matching interior. Looks like it just rolled off the assembly line. I think it is a 76 model. |
Matt Lemus (Mlemus)
Member
Username: Mlemus
Post Number: 338
Registered: 8-2002
| | Posted on Saturday, November 02, 2002 - 7:14 pm: | |
James,
I have fallin into the "might as well" area of the restoration on the 512bbi. It has been painted with an all black bottom and a red top. Which is all I was going to do. What I have added to the restoration are the wheels, some electrial, seats, exterior trim, wheel bushings, correct tires, new exhaust, new shifter assembly (long story), new front turn signals ($800 a pop might I add) new carpet and new Ferrari emblems. I am picking up the car at the end of the Month. I'll post pic's when I get it back
M |
James Selevan (Jselevan)
Junior Member
Username: Jselevan
Post Number: 195
Registered: 6-2002
| | Posted on Saturday, November 02, 2002 - 5:55 pm: | |
Frank - I have had a Dino for 25 years, 1986 TR for 14, and a Boxer for 6 months (and recent addition of 365 GTC/4). The Dino is great for throwing around at low speed. The TR is great for cruising, but the Boxer combines the handling of the Dino and power of the TR. Great car, my favorite to drive and to look at (although one can't find a prettier hunk of metal than a Dino). If ever I had to liquidate, the Boxer would be last to go.
Great value today. Relatively rare (in U.S.), 12 cylinder, bullet proof engine (although it needs engine-out service at 30,000) and to my surprise, my A/C works great. I heard horror stories of poor A/C and rotisserie-like heat flowing through the passenger compartment - but my A/C maintains comfort.
Value speaks in favor of the old 12-cylinder cars today. They have come down so much that your are unlikely to lose money. May not make much, but won't lose. The 90's cars and all 8 cylinders, I believe, are still heading south. My TR is not worth selling - can't get enough for it to justify letting a 12 cylinder go.
There is something about the 12 cylinder sound, and the Boxer is a great example (although the 365, I believe, surpasses it). All in all, go for the Boxer.
Jim S. |
wm hart (Whart)
Member
Username: Whart
Post Number: 556
Registered: 12-2001
| | Posted on Saturday, November 02, 2002 - 5:34 pm: | |
Rob, too bad you qualified your question, since i was thinking about a '75 coupe de ville, in non-metallic creme with a matcing brougham top; looking for a "driver," hence it will have well-used ashtrays, and at least a couple hundred thousand miles.I always preferred the cloth seats, since they retain the aroma of stale cigarette smoke much better, you know, the kind of car that was only driven to the track (read: horse races/betting) every day.
As to ferraris, looking for (and think i've found) a daytona cut by sergio scaglietti; the barchetta has been listed for sale in FML. |
David C. (Worth_it)
New member
Username: Worth_it
Post Number: 4
Registered: 10-2002
| | Posted on Saturday, November 02, 2002 - 12:01 pm: | |
Frank,
If you are serious about moving to the 512BBi,
I might be interested in buying your 348 Spider. I have been actively looking. I am meeting a car next week ( 1800 miles away ) to inspect and drive.
If you want me to consider yours so that you can make a quick move on the BBi please let me knmow the particulars on your 348.
Your mileage does not bother me as long as your service records are complete. Personally I prefer a car with some miles.
Respond here or e-mail if you want me to consider.
I also understand if you choose to keep the 348 both are desirable cars IMHO. |
Rob Lay (Rob328gts)
Board Administrator
Username: Rob328gts
Post Number: 2601
Registered: 12-2000
| | Posted on Saturday, November 02, 2002 - 10:53 am: | |
William, BTW, what Ferrari is next on your list? |
Greg Rodgers (Joechristmas)
Member
Username: Joechristmas
Post Number: 517
Registered: 3-2001
| | Posted on Saturday, November 02, 2002 - 10:07 am: | |
Go for the BBi. |
J. R. Vallandingham (Jrvall)
New member
Username: Jrvall
Post Number: 2
Registered: 11-2002
| | Posted on Saturday, November 02, 2002 - 9:38 am: | |
I've spent considerable time in quite a few Boxers and I'll agree fully with WHart, great cars, smoothas glass, lots of torque for slow speed cruising, very fast when pushed. No electronics to crap out. For modern 'sport driving' could use a brake upgrade, (although I wouldn't bother), and an A/C upgrade. Otherwise ...one of the best V-12's ever produced short of a 512TR imo. I happen to be working on in prep. for selling a Silver/Red 84 BB512i originally owned by A.J. Foyt if you're interested. |
wm hart (Whart)
Member
Username: Whart
Post Number: 555
Registered: 12-2001
| | Posted on Saturday, November 02, 2002 - 9:28 am: | |
I've had among others, a 348 spider and a 512BBi. I drove the BBi over 10k miles in a year, without a hiccup; took it on one drive, from NY to Florida, and it drove like a champ. There are variations between different cars; several knowledgeable people who drove my boxer thought it was one of the best, very tight and powerful. It was a garage queen with less than 6k miles on it when i bought it in 1999; i spent some money on it having the engine gone over thoroughly, along with the shocks, hoses, injectors, and misc. things. The car i bought was not one of the cheaper ones at the time (their prices have been depressed for a long time), but getting a really good one will save on headaches later. Although parts are obscenely expensive, the car has little in the way of electronics to go wacky.
They are wonderful cars to drive; light, direct steering, loads of torque, great sounding when you get the revs up, hot and not particularly comfortable in the summer, given the windshield and cooling system pipes being routed thru the cabin. The XW Michelin tires that are standard fitment on the "i" resemble snow tires; changing the wheels to accomodate more modern rubber will add bucks to the project, and may involve suspension changes that i never dared approach (although i know cars where this was done).
They also look great, and the interior is pretty cool, although the instrument panel is very space age plastic, rather than old fashioned.
I had no real problems with my 348 either, but while it was more tossable, and lots of fun with the top down, there is no substitute for torque. The boxer has a presence that's hard to beat, and for the money, there are few other cars that are in its category, either performancewise, or as a matter of design. (Used to love looking at it with the front and rear compartments jacknifed open).As to your color choices, that might be tougher,...(PS, not to be contentious, but as to Ed's comment about the difference in drivability, the boxer is old style, cant the seat back, long reach to the wheel kind of driver positioning. It takes some getting used to, compared to a more modern car. You also have to drive it differently, since it is long, and tail heavy, by anticipating your moves, and executing them really smoothly. It is a road rocket but not a pocket-sized one). |
Matt Lemus (Mlemus)
Member
Username: Mlemus
Post Number: 333
Registered: 8-2002
| | Posted on Saturday, November 02, 2002 - 9:21 am: | |
Frank,
I just got one that is in restoration right now. The engine sounds wonderful and it does look sharp, but, it is a different beast when it comes to maintenance. It is a Ferrari but very different then a 348. Test drive it a lot. Drive it at night as well. James S has one as well. He drives it a lot. Drop him a line and ask his opinion.
M |
ty (360mode)
Junior Member
Username: 360mode
Post Number: 79
Registered: 9-2002
| | Posted on Saturday, November 02, 2002 - 8:51 am: | |
gonna have to agree with ed on this one. it's a beautiful car to look at, but to drive it as much as you'd like to - i'd really test one out first.... |
Edward Gault (Irfgt)
Intermediate Member
Username: Irfgt
Post Number: 2188
Registered: 2-2001
| | Posted on Saturday, November 02, 2002 - 8:47 am: | |
Since I recently did some repairs on one and did some driving in it, my opinion is that you couldn't give it to me if I had to actually drive it. A BB would be a step down from a 348. |
Dr Tommy Cosgrove (Vwalfa4re)
Member
Username: Vwalfa4re
Post Number: 396
Registered: 5-2001
| | Posted on Saturday, November 02, 2002 - 8:41 am: | |
Get one. If I could I would. The 0-60 times on these things were in the low 5's back 20 years ago. That still is a quick car even by today's standards. A really beautiful Ferrari 12 cyl. |
BobD (Bobd)
Member
Username: Bobd
Post Number: 715
Registered: 3-2001
| | Posted on Saturday, November 02, 2002 - 7:45 am: | |
My thoughts exactly, Ernesto! |
Ernesto (T88power)
Member
Username: T88power
Post Number: 849
Registered: 2-2001
| | Posted on Saturday, November 02, 2002 - 7:29 am: | |
I have never driven one, but I think the 512BBi is one of the best looking Ferraris EVER. So, from my own little point of view, yes you should do it. They are truly beautiful.
Ernesto |
Frank Parker (Parkerfe)
Intermediate Member
Username: Parkerfe
Post Number: 1471
Registered: 9-2001
| | Posted on Saturday, November 02, 2002 - 7:10 am: | |
I have been thinking of selling my 348 Spider and buying a 512BBi. I would like a silver on red or blue on tan example. I know I will miss the drop top but am just thinking of a change. I had a TR and loved it and think I would like the Boxer even more. The price of them is pretty good right now with a lot of nice examples out there. But, since I drive my car 5-7k miles a year, I don't want to be disappointed with a hard to drive car that is not suited for such miles per year. Boxer owners out there, should I or not ? |