| Author | Message | ||
| Tim G. (Tim)
Junior Member Username: Tim Post Number: 206 Registered: 3-2002 |
If anyone is interested I have some really cool door handles for garage cabinets. they are real steel braided lines with a solid moldable core so they will bend to any shape. they look like steel braded lines like you would use on a car. they really look cool in a garage. Price is $6.00 for the handles and $4.00 for the drawer pulls + shipping (drawer pulls can also be used on cabinets. they sell for $7.99. they also come with 3 different length screws for different depth cabinets. very very high quality product. email me if interested.     | ||
| Jim E (Jimpo1)
Member Username: Jimpo1 Post Number: 907 Registered: 7-2001 |
OLD oak trees? In a place like Southlake you can't provide any NEW oak trees? | ||
| Rob Lay (Rob328gts)
Board Administrator Username: Rob328gts Post Number: 2619 Registered: 12-2000 |
Yes, I wanted to do that, but the zoning laws don't allow it. | ||
| J. Grande (Jay)
Member Username: Jay Post Number: 668 Registered: 10-2001 |
Rob, you may want to put a little loft area with a bed for the nights when you're too tired to walk back to the house...or when your wife locks you out!  | ||
| Rob Lay (Rob328gts)
Board Administrator Username: Rob328gts Post Number: 2614 Registered: 12-2000 |
Over 1,800 addicts now! | ||
| Rob Lay (Rob328gts)
Board Administrator Username: Rob328gts Post Number: 2613 Registered: 12-2000 |
I'll run a cable for satelite. Just a sink for now, plumbed for a bathroom if we want in future. Jim, for our parties we have about 100 old oak trees to choose from. | ||
| Martin (Miami348ts)
Advanced Member Username: Miami348ts Post Number: 3096 Registered: 5-2001 |
Rob, if I had the pleasure of building a garage myself instead of re-using what was given in 1958, when they built my house, here is what I would do: (some I actually also do in this one) . run electric to where you already need it. Floor outlets are a great thing. easy to install if you pour a new floor. . run speaker wires, cable connections for the TY, phone jack etc. Hide as much as you can under the sheet rock. So easy to do ost yourself before the rock comes up. . if you put a lift, get the specifications for the left BEFORE you design the floor and do structural calcs. You may have to pour a bigger footoing for the floor lift. . give yourself one full door with to either side of the car to work on the car. . dept of a garage is a nice thing. If you can get enough. You will eventually want a car in there with a sofa and a TV. Run some water and drain lines in a area where you may end up putting a little bar. Obviously you will have to have the same at the dirty shop area. As for the zoning. See if you can attach it to the now main house. If you end up taking the main house down anyway, what do you care how it looks right now. Make sure to get a style of garage that will fit your new home later as well. I hope by the begining on next year I can show of my garage as well. Post the plans on the Chat and we can all give you some ideas what you forgot. You have the resource of 1500 car nutz, might as well use it. | ||
| Jim E (Jimpo1)
Member Username: Jimpo1 Post Number: 906 Registered: 7-2001 |
Don't forget the bathroom Rob! And the sink for the dirty rags. And take a tip from Tim, and run cable for the F1 races. | ||
| Todd Gieger (Todd328gts)
Junior Member Username: Todd328gts Post Number: 207 Registered: 6-2002 |
Be glad to help if I can Rob. I just painted the work bench yellow and red and put down the matching floor last weekend...I used motormat yellow/red checker perimeter and carbon fiber (grey) in the middle... I will try to post some pics soon | ||
| Kevin Butler (Challenge)
New member Username: Challenge Post Number: 20 Registered: 9-2002 |
For those of you who do have drains for washing cars inside, what kind of walls do you have? | ||
| Jim Schad (Jim_schad)
Member Username: Jim_schad Post Number: 396 Registered: 7-2002 |
If each structure is limited to 1000 sq ft is there a way to build 2 or 3 buildings that appear seperate on paper yet are really 1 unit? Or can you attach them to the current house to get by code and then build house later? Or can you call the new garage a "house" and thus be free of the limit? What consititutes a house? A toilet, a sink? | ||
| TomD (Tifosi)
Intermediate Member Username: Tifosi Post Number: 1617 Registered: 9-2001 |
a man with priorities - build the garage first . I knew your wife was a saint when I met her | ||
| Rob Lay (Rob328gts)
Board Administrator Username: Rob328gts Post Number: 2612 Registered: 12-2000 |
We bought this 1.4 acres that use to be an old farm area that the city has grown up around. It's only a couple miles from DFW airport, so great location. The bad is we're living in the original farm house that is close to a century old. With my wife in grad school through next year, the plan is to build the workshop/garage now and then the house in a few years. We will then knock down the old house. So basically nothing to attach to at this point. When the house is built, we'll still add on additional garages for the daily drivers. I think my wife kinda likes the idea of me having my own place away from the house. ;) | ||
| Tim G. (Tim)
Junior Member Username: Tim Post Number: 200 Registered: 3-2002 |
Rob if its 1000 ft for seperate buildings, what about attaching it? I had kinda the same problem, if it was detached I could not get the height or size I wanted. so we attached the garage to the house with a small roof and put the floor height the same as the house and called it attached. then zoning let me do anything I wanted. | ||
| TomD (Tifosi)
Intermediate Member Username: Tifosi Post Number: 1616 Registered: 9-2001 |
do you guys put drains in the floor for indoor washing? Up here in the cold I was thinking of doing this in my next house to make it easier to wash in the winter. do forget a indoor vacuum as well... Rob make sure the garage door design contemplates the lifts - ask Todd G about this | ||
| Rob Lay (Rob328gts)
Board Administrator Username: Rob328gts Post Number: 2609 Registered: 12-2000 |
Man, I've been thinking of all the details for a year now and you're still throwing stuff out I haven't considered. I hope to have the design finalized within a week or two. Financing is ready, just have to get a contract. Southlake is a major headache for zoning. They have a max 1,000 sq. foot limit on separate buildings. I have to fit a 3 car garage and a workshop into this space. We hope they don't limit us to the 1,000 and that will make things better. I really want the workshop and showroom to be seperated by the wall and glass. With all my race car work, no way I can keep it clean. I want the workshop to be a dirty workshop and the showroom to be a spotless showroom. I just sent the builder an email and he might join us on this thread. | ||
| Tim G. (Tim)
Junior Member Username: Tim Post Number: 199 Registered: 3-2002 |
Chris is right on the lighting. also use electronic ballists in your lights. they are a much cleaner light and you dont get the flicker. | ||
| Cmparrf40 (Cmparrf40)
Member Username: Cmparrf40 Post Number: 469 Registered: 3-2002 |
Rob, I ran all of my air lines in the walls. I have an outlet in front of each car. Lighting, big issue. You do not have to spend a fortune. Hint: place your lighting where it can be used with the garage doors OPEN. In Texas, you can work on your car for 9 months a year with the garage doors open. Place the floresent lights paralel with the cars BETWEEN the gargage doors and on each side of the car at the outside wall. This way the garage doors do not cover the lights when they are open. I also reccomend a row of lights paralel to the back wall right above the front of the car. This has worked great for me. | ||
| Rob Lay (Rob328gts)
Board Administrator Username: Rob328gts Post Number: 2608 Registered: 12-2000 |
That Vette garage is nice. We were going with a national building company, but then the custom builder we eventually want to do our house became interested in the project. He's really good, almost won this years parade of homes in Southlake. His home was only $780k and beat all the other homes except one with prices of $900k to $1.1 mil. Our place will be a fraction of that, but he's still interested in our small project and it will be better quality. He has CAD software and does the architecting himself. | ||
| Tim G. (Tim)
Junior Member Username: Tim Post Number: 198 Registered: 3-2002 |
Hi Rob: make sure you get specs on a lift before you decide on ceiling height. I agree with Chris on the workshop. having the extra depth makes a nice work area while the car is in the bay to be repaired or what have you. run airlines and elec everywhere. they are easy and cheap before hand, afterwards its a nightmare. draw your floor plan to scale, put your cars and future cars in it, work shop area, benches, lifts, air, phone, TV and elec locations on the plan and then stare at it and pretend you are working on something, how do you move around in the workspace? how and where will you store things? display area's for awards, Forza magazine covers, banners, pics, etc. run speaker wire, where will you put TV, Stereo, Compressor, fridge, etc. no matter how much you plan you will miss something or wish you had done it differently once you are done. good luck and have fun | ||
| Jim Schad (Jim_schad)
Member Username: Jim_schad Post Number: 395 Registered: 7-2002 |
Rob, are you building it or getting an architect to draw it up and then hire a gen contractor? I have a great friend who is an architect sort of our your way who just did a nice second floor addition/remodel for another friend. | ||
| Cmparrf40 (Cmparrf40)
Member Username: Cmparrf40 Post Number: 468 Registered: 3-2002 |
Rob, my garage is 36' wide by 24' deep. I have 9' doors. As you know, this is an excellent storage or display size. it will hold 3 cars and you can open every car door without touching another car or wall. If you want a working garage, you might want to go to 36' X 30". The extra depth is could be important for cabinets. I am planning on building another garage behind my current garage in the spring, it will be 36' X 30'. Good luck Rob. | ||
| VS (Vs1)
New member Username: Vs1 Post Number: 13 Registered: 10-2002 |
Rob, here's another very nice garage/workshop for you. http://temp.corvetteforum.net/c5/richs7/index2.shtml | ||
| Rob Lay (Rob328gts)
Board Administrator Username: Rob328gts Post Number: 2607 Registered: 12-2000 |
This is a frequent topic, but I wanted to continue it since I'm biting the bullet soon to build my "showroom" and workshop. Before I get too far, Chris Parr, can you tell me what the dimensions of your 3 car showroom are? I think that's about the size I want. Are those 9 or 8 foot wide doors too? Anyway, here's a few previous threads with pics... http://server.ferrarichat.com/~ferrari/ferrarichat.com/discus/messages/21/8415.html http://server.ferrarichat.com/~ferrari/ferrarichat.com/discus/messages/21/153886.html Right now I'm thinking a 3 car garage with single doors like Chris. I will then put a single car workshop on the backside with a door to access and possible indoor windows looking back and forth like what service/tire shops have. The ceiling will be 10 ft., so I'm limited to a 9.5 foot lift. Looking at marble epoxy floor coverings for the showroom and just plain gray for the workshop. |