| Author | Message | ||
| James (Jim_red308)
New member Username: Jim_red308 Post Number: 44 Registered: 3-2001 |
Porsches mentioned on the same message board as Ferrari's?? What IS the world coming to? I drove my first Boxster (friend's) about two months ago - what a dog. Woof woof. I told him I'd take him for a REAL ride sometime soon. He's still waiting too haha. | ||
| IJVPF355 (Ijvpet)
New member Username: Ijvpet Post Number: 10 Registered: 7-2002 |
My baby sister drives a boxster. I've said enough... | ||
| Michael Yip (Mightyslash)
Junior Member Username: Mightyslash Post Number: 102 Registered: 4-2002 |
Willis, not only do they talk on cell phones. They're snobby too | ||
| Markus Lex (Playersmarkus)
New member Username: Playersmarkus Post Number: 9 Registered: 10-2002 |
this is really too funny ;o) I somehow do not believe the whole story...sounds to me more like a kindergarten story ;O)LOL. btw, I'm neutral and I don't judge people by their cars ( even so some car groups make this very hard for me ). Fact is that the P guys took your place because you let them do it...if the place is so important to the fkc club, then why was there no contract with the restaurant in place ).And they are probably having a beer right now in their new meeting room, reading the chat, rolling on the floor...you gave them exactly the reaction they wanted to trigger. I agree that if this is a one time thing it is pretty funny and I bet many Ferrari guys would have done this too...If this was not a one time thing then you are in fact dealing with a group of people who have major stress with themselves and this is their way to vent. People are only mean and try to harm because they have problems and insecurities.. Don't open up opportunities for them and if it hits the fence..ignore them, even though it's though for the ego...it will save you lots of nerves and the result will be the same ;O) At least that is my experience and I have to deal with many of those guys ;o) Amen Markus Playersrun.com...zero problemo with paking lots here ;o) | ||
| Al Johnson (Bigal)
Junior Member Username: Bigal Post Number: 89 Registered: 3-2002 |
We've had joint Ferrari-Porsche events here in Austin and I have found them to be wonderful people. Every one in their club that I have met are gearheads and great people. Sounds like you have a bunch of jerks who happen to drive Porsches. | ||
| Ken (Allyn)
Member Username: Allyn Post Number: 552 Registered: 10-2001 |
If it was a one time thing, I would think it was pretty funny. But it's obviously a real problem; I too wonder what the restaurant was thinking. Diplomacy is always the best bet, but in case you want to get them back, make a bunch of "For Sale" signs with stupid cheap prices and put them on their windshields. | ||
| Willis Huang (Willis360)
Member Username: Willis360 Post Number: 1000 Registered: 8-2001 |
Don't know about Porsche guys being jerks around here but they always seemed to have a cellphone stuck to their ear when driving. | ||
| J. Grande (Jay)
Member Username: Jay Post Number: 695 Registered: 10-2001 |
Sorry to hear that BJ. I also am in Toronto and have found most of the Ferrari guys here to be nice. My car isn't on the road yet and still at all the track events I've gone to, people have let me ride in their cars (passenger seat of course). Porsche guys seem to me like spoiled rich kids playing with daddy's money. Of course that's a generalization, but still... | ||
| F-J'87EuroTR (Ferrarijoe)
Member Username: Ferrarijoe Post Number: 278 Registered: 5-2001 |
If Chris cannot sort out things in the interest of both clubs, I say go for a counter attack. Since they showed up anywhere from 30-60 minutes earlier than your 0830 time, suck it up for one weekend of the month and plan to arrive in force at say 0630-0700. Establish your ground and wait awhile to order your food. BS and drink beverages until PeeClub guys start to arrive, then order you food. Wouldn�t it be fun to see the look on their faces when they realize you countered them? Or better yet, maybe this will break the ice and everyone will get along. The worst case is that they come in the next month at 0600-0630 only to be leaving or have left as you guys go back to your original 0830 link up time. | ||
| ross koller (Ross)
Member Username: Ross Post Number: 514 Registered: 3-2002 |
agree w/ chris to take the high road. don't bring yourself to the level of people whose behaviour you have just deplored. anyway, its not the cars, its the people. chris, aren't you a member of some country club around there, where you can have all the space you want? if not then another idea might be to find another/better restaurant. the other alternative is to simply reserve the room and parking lot(s), as you would for any table, and confirm it w/ a credit card; for the next 5 years......and maybe even guarantee some kind of minimum charge as well. | ||
| Jethro Bodine (Rsbiomedical)
New member Username: Rsbiomedical Post Number: 20 Registered: 9-2001 |
Contact the KC Monster Truck Club and make arrangments for them to be there the same time as the P club. | ||
| jeff ryerson (Atheyg)
Junior Member Username: Atheyg Post Number: 75 Registered: 8-2002 |
Not all Porsche owners are this way, I owned 2 911s myself and found the "arrogant" type of owner typically has no knowledge about Porsche history or heritage, they simply bought a new car to show all they have "arrived". Ferrari is the ultimate, bar none, we represent Ferrari as owners and need act above the actions of lesser owners and their cars while taking the high road as we have or need to prove nothing. | ||
| Hans E. Hansen (4re_gt4)
Member Username: 4re_gt4 Post Number: 418 Registered: 4-2002 |
As with so many topics this tends to 'morph' into something else.... To go with the flow: It seems that most forums like this one have decent, friendly guys, regardless of car owned. But.... As for other groups, it seems to depend upon how new/expensive the car is. New Maranello owners seem, well not snobby, but rather aloof and distant. They won't snub you, but somehow you don't feel welcome. That guy in the corner with the ratty 'GT4 will talk your leg off. Now, this is strictly a generalization, with the limitations of such. At a recent dyno event, one guy in a 360 was polite, but wouldn't give the time of day to the 'great unwashed'. However, the gent in the F50 (Page Stevens) is one seriously great guy. The other participants had all manner of cars, and we had a great time. If you want to see a Ferrari snob, talk to Rob Garven. LOL! (If you haven't met Rob, just tell him that you are interested in Ferraris, and HANG ON!) | ||
| BretM (Bretm)
Advanced Member Username: Bretm Post Number: 2868 Registered: 2-2001 |
Just to make sure no one interprets anything incorrectly, I don't like Porsches, the cars. The owners are impossible to group as a whole, but I too have found them to much more prone to ahole comments on the street. I can't say I have ever come across a Ferrari owner that went out of his way to say something stupid at a traffic light, etc, I can say this about several Pcar owners though. Nevertheless, whenever I meet someone with a Pcar I treat him as I would anyone else, I don't stereotype them until they make some stupid comment. As far as the cars, I don't like them, that's my opinion, everyone has their own. I don't want you guys to think I single out Pcars though, I hate a lot of cars to be honest. | ||
| john (Johnwto)
New member Username: Johnwto Post Number: 26 Registered: 6-2002 |
Bj sorry to hear about that, im in toronto too. and just for the record i certainly do care about maintenance costs. | ||
| Cmparrf40 (Cmparrf40)
Member Username: Cmparrf40 Post Number: 485 Registered: 3-2002 |
I have been in both clubs for about equal amounts of time. While I know there are alot of nice Porsche guys out there, I have found that for the most part they are not as friendly as the Ferrari owners I have met. Now, I must admit the biggest jerk I know is a Ferrari F512M owner, so there are jerks on both sides of this story. I just wish the P car people would have thought this out a little better, I hate being put into a corner! But I think it will work out....... Chris | ||
| BJ (Bjkim)
New member Username: Bjkim Post Number: 6 Registered: 10-2002 |
In my experience, most of F-car owners are not nice to young people like me. I had met an owner of red F355 spider here (Toronto) few months ago. I asked him few questions about maintenance costs, etc. I also mentioned him that I am looking to buy one next year. Do you know what his response was? He looked at me, and told me that if I can afford the car why do I care about the maintenance cost? Maybe, he's too honest to tell only the truth, however i think he's just too cocky and rude to someone who don't have a F-car. Obviously, you can tell his cocky attitude by his voice tone. I hope, people here are not like him. | ||
| Richard Lawford (Rich1231)
New member Username: Rich1231 Post Number: 3 Registered: 10-2002 |
I have feet on both sides of this argument. I have owned Porsche's longer and have a great response from other Porsche owners. Ferrari owners online, particularly those on www.pistonheads.com are as mad as I am but the one local 360 Spider owner near to me in the UK is an arogant tw@t. People are people, don't blame the cars. Richard | ||
| Joseph (Mojo)
Junior Member Username: Mojo Post Number: 97 Registered: 9-2002 |
We have a lot of Porsche owners here, Why put down the car's ? It's the people that suck. From what I read some F-car owners suck also. Take the high road like Chris said, after all it his post. Flame on. | ||
| john (Johnwto)
New member Username: Johnwto Post Number: 25 Registered: 6-2002 |
BRETM<<<<<<<<<<<<Porsches are "nothing but a fancy VW" What are you talking about??!!! geez. i've had a 98 C4S and a 96 turbo, a 98 355F1 and i currently have a 00 360. i belonged to the porsche club and have done various driving events with the ferrari guys but am not a member. i find the porsche guys wayyyyyyy nicer, much more friendly and far less arrogant. too bad the porsche KC group are a bunch or morons. | ||
| Lawrence Coppari (Lawrence)
Member Username: Lawrence Post Number: 372 Registered: 4-2002 |
Fred, Sorry I jumped to the wrong conclusion. | ||
| Frederick Thomas (Fred)
Member Username: Fred Post Number: 670 Registered: 2-2001 |
Lawrence, I was only kidding about the nails. I guess I should have added the smiley face.  | ||
| Mark Moon M.D. (Enzomoon)
New member Username: Enzomoon Post Number: 19 Registered: 4-2002 |
Tell them you heard that their new SUV is such a stunning success that a minivan is on the drawing board. There use to be two great sportscar companies in the world...now there is only one and it is Italian. I have run several events at Roebling Road with several groups, often with various Porsche drivers. They routinely have been the most inconsiderate on the track and most standoffish towards me. Although I did enjoy the fact the my 512 simply did all the talking for me on the track. I have always had the feeling that most of the Porsche guys felt they had something to "prove" to the Ferrari guy when they saw my car. I guess that is flattery of the highest order. | ||
| Dave (Maranelloman)
Member Username: Maranelloman Post Number: 539 Registered: 1-2002 |
Chris, here's what you do to REALLY get them. Ask them why they support a marque founded by a guy named Ferry (and pronounce it Fairy). Then tell them that REAL men & women prefer marques founded by car guys named Enzo, not Ferry, and they should too. | ||
| Cmparrf40 (Cmparrf40)
Member Username: Cmparrf40 Post Number: 484 Registered: 3-2002 |
I spoke to Ken Smiley, his wife was the one who picked the restaurant. I told him I would like to persue this as 1 problem that both clubs are faced with rather than a Ferrari club problem or a Porsche club problem. He agreed, so we will see what happens! | ||
| BretM (Bretm)
Advanced Member Username: Bretm Post Number: 2863 Registered: 2-2001 |
No matter how they cut it, they're still a bunch of dildos for knowingly taking your spot in the lot and the restaurant. Come on, coincidence they take the exact spots and show up exactly half an hour earlier. Practical jokes are funny between friends, they're not practical jokes when they're done by people you don't know, then they're just being aholes. Example: If I gym short one of my best friends when we're playing football in the snow it's hilarious and we'll all laugh (except him who might try to peg me or something), at the same time though if I gym short some random guy on campus I'll probably get clocked. That said, Chris is going about this the right way and not going down to their level. | ||
| Cmparrf40 (Cmparrf40)
Member Username: Cmparrf40 Post Number: 483 Registered: 3-2002 |
Hey, guys lets take the high road on this...... I will try to resolve this on a professional level first, then if they hold out, we will sick Arlie on them! | ||
| Rob Lay (Rob328gts)
Board Administrator Username: Rob328gts Post Number: 2649 Registered: 12-2000 |
Martin, I think we should stay out of their business for at least a little. I'm still inclined to spam their site with Ferrari propaganda with Chris's permission, of course. | ||
| TomD (Tifosi)
Intermediate Member Username: Tifosi Post Number: 1640 Registered: 9-2001 |
MArtin, their site says please welcome our newest member - cavallino man - that must be you LOL | ||
| Martin (Miami348ts)
Advanced Member Username: Miami348ts Post Number: 3124 Registered: 5-2001 |
reading through thier posts I must say I do not believe that was a practical joke. They know about the F-club meeting there, they knew when and they set their time earlier on purpose. This is my post in their site: "Aparently you guys can not even respond to how you want to take the situation that the Ferrari Club has been meeting there for years and you are coming to take their space. Kind of sad to see the attitude of the Porsche owners not taking the Ferrari owners into consideration that have used that site for years. Chris, maybe you should follow my suggestions. To that Porsche Chapter....you are one sorry bunch!" | ||
| Cmparrf40 (Cmparrf40)
Member Username: Cmparrf40 Post Number: 481 Registered: 3-2002 |
Hello Gene, yes we did meet at the "ranch" nice to hear from you! I am usually pretty passive on things like this, but I do not think we were treated with the respect we would have shown them if the situation had been reversed. I may be out of line, but I think they could have handled this alot better. | ||
| Gene Agatep (Gagatep)
New member Username: Gagatep Post Number: 47 Registered: 8-2002 |
it was a great practical joke if it was a one time thing - they should have openly invited you guys in and said so though.... if it wasn't a practical joke, then its WAR!!!! TAKE IT TO THE TRACK!!!! CHRIS... YOUR F-40 versus a 996 TWIN TURBO. WHOEVER WINS GETS THE BANK PARKING LOT AND THE RESTAURANT. LOSER GOES AWAY. By the way Chris, I believe we met... this is Gene from LA from the FCALA meet last spring... we had lunch together at the Paramount Ranch... I was with Tom's yellow 355 spyder. | ||
| Jim Schad (Jim_schad)
Member Username: Jim_schad Post Number: 407 Registered: 7-2002 |
Oh Chris, you are gonna get TONS of replies to that post I guarantee! Enjoy. I am from tulsa and live in dallas so I know both p dealerships well. Uncle in tulsa has a 911 cab from them. Also the dealership in Richardson/Plano now belongs to Scott Ginsberg. He has a restaurant right next to my office...was Voltaire, now Bamboo Bamboo. Article in D Magazine about him this month. Small world | ||
| Cmparrf40 (Cmparrf40)
Member Username: Cmparrf40 Post Number: 478 Registered: 3-2002 |
my post on the P car site: Let me introduce myself, I am the Kansas Director of the Ferrari Club of America. I am also a past 911T, 911, 911SC, C2 Porsche owner, in fact my family owned the Porsche dealerships in Tulsa and Richardson, TX for over 20 years. So I have earned my Porsche stripes over the years. I can tell you that the Ferrari Club is in the middle of conversations with LePeeps to try and accomodate both clubs. We have been at LePeeps for several years, we agree with your reasons for liking LePeeps. The problem exists that the parking lot at the bank can not accomodate both Porsches and Ferrari's. We asked, and got permission to park there on Saturday mornings. Did you ask the bank if it was ok to park there? While we welcome the Porsche Club to LePeeps, to say that we are thrilled to see Porsches in the parking area we have used and had permission to use over the last few years would not be accurate. I am sure you can see our point. I am surprised that the officers of the Porsche club have not been in contact with us. As a courtesy, I can assure we would not have invaded Perkins without talking to your club. We realize that you meet every Saturday and we only meet on the first Saturday of every month, so from LePeep's posistion, your club is an asset, but LePeps has been our home for a long time and Tom Ryan, the General Manager has assured he will do whatever is necassary to keep us there. We are trying to find solutions to accomodate both clubs. What is currently being proposed is to rope off a new area on the first weekend just for the Ferrari Club. On the first weekend of the month, because of the size of both clubs, only the Ferrari club will have the upstairs meeting room. The Porsche club will be located on the first floor on that weekend. If this can not be done, would the Porsche club consider letting us use the parking area at the bank on the first Saturday of the month as we have used over the last several years? I hope to have LePeeps answer on Friday as to how both clubs can enjoy this restaurant. The Ferrari Club does like the idea of both clubs meeting there assuming a solution can be found to the parking issue, the idea of a Porsche or a Ferrari parked next to a Buick is not appealing! I hope in the future we can work together. We do have some members with P cars so it should be in both of ours best interest to make this enjoyable for all the car lovers! If your officers would like to discuss this, my office number is 913 663 2008. Sincerely, Chris Parr | ||
| Jim Schad (Jim_schad)
Member Username: Jim_schad Post Number: 406 Registered: 7-2002 |
I like rob's suggestion. It seems they went to Le Peep for the right reasons. Read their 10 reasons...all about food then one mention about co-existing with the f club. I would bury their site with pics of your cars. Harmless, but funny. Reminds me of the movie The Outsiders with the greasers and soshes fighting over turf. | ||
| Lawrence Coppari (Lawrence)
Member Username: Lawrence Post Number: 371 Registered: 4-2002 |
Both clubs have nice people; both clubs have their jerks. I am a member of FCA, PCA, BMWCCA, and the Mercedes Club. The Mercedes club has the most jerks in it, by far. | ||
| Phil Bryson (Phildo)
New member Username: Phildo Post Number: 35 Registered: 8-2002 |
C'mon guys. It could have been a lot worse - could have been a Camaro/Firebird club! No question it was a pretty cheesy move on their behalf - how about everyone enjoying a waffle together and talking about two of the best makes on the road? | ||
| Rob Lay (Rob328gts)
Board Administrator Username: Rob328gts Post Number: 2641 Registered: 12-2000 |
Ok, here's the scoop, looks like some are members of both clubs and official or unofficial they wanted to "share" with the Ferrari club. However, reading through their post they have some infighting between Perkins and Le Peep's... http://www.smiley.net/kcrpca/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=13 Don't do it yet, but a funny practical joke would be to have all the users on FC post gobs of Ferrari info, pics of Ferraris beating VW's - I mean Porsches, and other funny stuff. Their little board only has maybe 50 messages total! We would overwhelm them. | ||
| Rob Lay (Rob328gts)
Board Administrator Username: Rob328gts Post Number: 2640 Registered: 12-2000 |
I think it truely started as a funny prank, so I think a counter prank would be in order. Now if they keep it up, then I think a war is called for. | ||
| David Jones (Dave)
Member Username: Dave Post Number: 420 Registered: 4-2001 |
Well let me start by saying that I enjoy Porsches just as much as any car... And have thoughts about buying a VW Super Beetle convertible for a weekend play toy... Yes I guess in a few folks eyes that alone makes me the prince of darkness, but what the hell. It seems to me the most civilized way to take care of this little problem would be to find out who the president of the local Porsche club is, and then while they are enjoying breakfast at your hangout, your bunch should show up and park outside his house and enjoy your catered breakfast there. | ||
| Martin (Miami348ts)
Advanced Member Username: Miami348ts Post Number: 3119 Registered: 5-2001 |
I like Tom's idea. Also like the Trailer idea! Really do not think it is cool from the restaurant owner to give away what you have used for a long time. After all you had these meetings organized for a while and that should always give you some leverage. I would block off the parking lot, trash their next meeting and would get Doughnuts and coffee from someplace else and eat it outside the restaurant or have something catered to your trailer and have your meeting at the trailer in the bank parking lot to show the restaurant owner what a •••• he is! Then find a new place to hold your meetings. | ||
| Lawrence Coppari (Lawrence)
Member Username: Lawrence Post Number: 369 Registered: 4-2002 |
Tossing a handful of nails? Preemption is one thing; vandalism is another. | ||
| TomD (Tifosi)
Intermediate Member Username: Tifosi Post Number: 1633 Registered: 9-2001 |
fight fire with fire, find out when there next meet is (Breakfast or otherwise) and beat them at there own game. For example when they have there next public display show up with 15 f cars and I bet I know which cars will steal the show | ||
| TomD (Tifosi)
Intermediate Member Username: Tifosi Post Number: 1632 Registered: 9-2001 |
how come the owner of the restaurant did not look out for you guys. maybe it was a one time practical joke. | ||
| Bart Boonacker (Sharky666)
New member Username: Sharky666 Post Number: 23 Registered: 9-2002 |
I'd go with Tyler, see if it's possible to get the parking lot specially reserved for F-cars. Treat the director with a ride orso, I know I would go with the you guys then (mmm now I only need to own a bank like that ;) ). And it think nobody would disagree with you being angry, it really is a rude action of those guys. | ||
| Frederick Thomas (Fred)
Member Username: Fred Post Number: 667 Registered: 2-2001 |
Just go there the night before and toss a big hand full of nails in the area where they are going to park. | ||
| KCCK (Kenneth)
New member Username: Kenneth Post Number: 10 Registered: 10-2002 |
I used to own a Porsche. I have now "moved up" to a Ferrari. I am planning to get another Porsche convertible as well, or perhaps a Modena Spider. I do not know where that places me, friends. | ||
| Tillman Strahan (Tillman)
Junior Member Username: Tillman Post Number: 121 Registered: 11-2001 |
I agree, the restaurant owner/manager is the problem here. Unfortunately, physical violence won't really solve anything. Economic violence, on the other hand.... Find out who owns the note on the restaurant. Form a group of Fcar owners to buy out the loan, and then mention to the owner that you're not particularly forgiving people. That should give you leverage, and the worse case scenario is that you get to open the "ristorante del cavallo" under new management | ||
| Markus Lex (Playersmarkus)
New member Username: Playersmarkus Post Number: 7 Registered: 10-2002 |
I don't think you would have problems with Porsche GT 2 owners, they normally own a Ferrari,too ;o) Funny story though ;o) Seems like highschool never ends over there ;o) Maybe you guys should take it out on the track,lol. Seems to me like the bad guy is the restaurant owner who let the Porsche guys take over your spots, he even gave them the meeting room ;O) Markus Playersrun.com | ||
| Tyler (Bahiaau)
Member Username: Bahiaau Post Number: 382 Registered: 12-2001 |
Chris, have you checked to see if the president of the bank likes Ferraris? If so, have your guys offer him rides in exchange for parking on that morning and have him join you for breakfast. That might solve your problem and you might get another Ferrari fan in the process. My experience with Porsche people is similar. They tend to be arrogant jerks. Funny how the worst of them tend to be as you said, "wanna be's". | ||
| Michael Yip (Mightyslash)
Junior Member Username: Mightyslash Post Number: 95 Registered: 4-2002 |
Porsche owners suck. Especially those who drive Boxsters... | ||
| Cmparrf40 (Cmparrf40)
Member Username: Cmparrf40 Post Number: 477 Registered: 3-2002 |
Bret, funny you should mention my transporter! I was thinking the same thing! My transporter is 70' long, I was thinking I could block 70' of parking, moving forward when each Ferrari shows up! We could get there at 7:30, but man that is a high price to pay for a waffle! | ||
| BretM (Bretm)
Advanced Member Username: Bretm Post Number: 2860 Registered: 2-2001 |
Alright, for those of you that don't know, I think Porsche's are the bastards of cars and you would much sooner see me give one of them the finger before a wave (notice I said sooner, no I don't go around giving them all the finger). They're stupidly designed, a whore to work on, and are nothing but a fancy VW. For those of you that say a Ferrari is fancy Fiat, give me friggin break, one hell of a stretch (are they designed by the same man, have them been together since day one, etc). Granted on occasion I'm known to dabble in niceness, but that's only temporary delusions. I have also noticed at least 90% of the owners I come in contact with to be a-sholes. You can tell I like them a lot. I say either park your transporter across the entrance and exit of the parking lot next time and leave it there all morning while you Fcar guys eat, let the Pcar guys wait. My favorite though would be some sneaky tire slashing or at least a couple nails up against the tires, come on, we're Italian here aren't we? | ||
| Hubert Otlik (Hugh)
Member Username: Hugh Post Number: 282 Registered: 1-2002 |
Chris- Not a bad idea about parking behind them, what are they going to do, get you towed? | ||
| Cmparrf40 (Cmparrf40)
Member Username: Cmparrf40 Post Number: 475 Registered: 3-2002 |
OK, I feel better now........ I just had to vent, still makes me mad though! I thought maybe the Ferrari guys should just park behind them till WE finished breakfast! lol | ||
| Joseph (Mojo)
Junior Member Username: Mojo Post Number: 96 Registered: 9-2002 |
Its just that group of guys there. You know people are the same where ever you go. some are good and some are bad. Sometimes there is some truth to stereotypes tho. Good luck with that situation. | ||
| Cmparrf40 (Cmparrf40)
Member Username: Cmparrf40 Post Number: 474 Registered: 3-2002 |
I should add that I have owned 911's since high school. My family (both of my Uncles)owned 2 Porsche dealerships, so I am a big Porsche fan! I just can not believe these guys! | ||
| Cmparrf40 (Cmparrf40)
Member Username: Cmparrf40 Post Number: 473 Registered: 3-2002 |
I know, if you don't have anything nice to say.... But I have to vent! The local Ferrari club has been meeting at a restaurant for breakfast the first Saturday of every month for several years. We love this place because there is a bank next door that is closed on Saturdays giving us a safe place to park our Ferrari's while still letting the public enjoy our cars. In addition, the restaurant is one of the few that has a meeting room available on a Saturday morning. The waitress knows all of us and she is so good, she always has our drinks to us before we can even sit down! Well......... The local Porsche guys knew this was our spot. The Ferrari club meets here at 8:30. Well we showed up for breakfast only to find the parking lot full of Porsches! The Porsche jerks now meet there at 8:00! They took all of OUR parking (No other parking is Ferrari friendly) They conned their way into our meeting room as well! This is the rudest group of people I have ever met, they just sat there and laughed when we showed up! What a bunch of wanna be's! I have never seen so much plad and pocket protectors in all my life! I have never met a car guy I did not like, chevy guys, Ford guys, Hell I even like these kids that are building these Honda's, at least they have passion for cars. But, the Porsche group in KC is about as low as you can get........... Hey, just my opinion....... |