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Ken (Allyn)
Member Username: Allyn
Post Number: 558 Registered: 10-2001
| Posted on Thursday, November 14, 2002 - 8:07 am: | |
Why would anyone spend that much to repair a 77 308? Why didn't Haggerty just consider it a total loss and write a check for the value of the car (mid 20's to low 30's if concourse?)? It must have been quite a sell job you did on them to get $44k for the repairs!! |
Mike Fisher (Mikef)
Junior Member Username: Mikef
Post Number: 130 Registered: 11-2001
| Posted on Wednesday, November 13, 2002 - 8:10 pm: | |
Thanks to Hagerty Insurance, the fire damage was paid for. But the original estimate was $26,000.00, and final bill was $44,000.00. Needless to say, there was some fighting going on!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! At one point I didn't think I would ever get the car back. |
Jerry W. (Tork1966)
Member Username: Tork1966
Post Number: 298 Registered: 7-2001
| Posted on Wednesday, November 13, 2002 - 7:12 pm: | |
Ferrari could GIVE the cars away and just sit back and make it up in service. |
Bruno (Originalsinner)
Member Username: Originalsinner
Post Number: 724 Registered: 5-2002
| Posted on Wednesday, November 13, 2002 - 4:10 pm: | |
I'd of parted it out after the fire or bought another and used it for spare parts.44k. Wow. I know it's easy to get there. If you drive car and I mean every year about 3000 miles it will work out to about 1.00 per mile this includes all cosmetics,repaints,interiors,maintenances etc,etc. Not for the faint of heart. |
Matt Lemus (Mlemus)
Member Username: Mlemus
Post Number: 451 Registered: 8-2002
| Posted on Wednesday, November 13, 2002 - 4:08 pm: | |
$268 in the past year for the shifter boot Not including consumables. |
Bruno (Originalsinner)
Member Username: Originalsinner
Post Number: 723 Registered: 5-2002
| Posted on Wednesday, November 13, 2002 - 4:06 pm: | |
my 78 gtb has $62,000.00 in receipts since day 1. Car has 74k miles on it. My 82 400 has 14000.00 since 1985.I dont have the receipts from 80-85 but dont think they would be much judging from all parts being original. Both have every dealer service stamp in the service book by Ferrari dealer. That help add cost. But that also makes cars well maintained. Also shows how much cheaper front engine 12 is compared to mid engine v-8 to operate. |
BretM (Bretm)
Advanced Member Username: Bretm
Post Number: 2907 Registered: 2-2001
| Posted on Wednesday, November 13, 2002 - 4:00 pm: | |
In the Ferrari's defense, 90% of the costs are my own quest for performance and really can't be blamed on it. It would have been relatively inexpensive to maintain had I not gotten wrapped up in all this. |
Giang Hoang (Spidersense)
New member Username: Spidersense
Post Number: 23 Registered: 10-2002
| Posted on Wednesday, November 13, 2002 - 2:44 pm: | |
I have it all on an Excel spreadsheet. 90% of all service is preventive maintenance, but man it ain't cheap! Probably around $25K in servicing for a 1986 328GTS. |
Matt Lemus (Mlemus)
Member Username: Mlemus
Post Number: 449 Registered: 8-2002
| Posted on Wednesday, November 13, 2002 - 2:36 pm: | |
Mike, Was the foreign object a loose nut he forgot to tighten? Did he change the belts? If so, the manufacturer of the belt should have coughed up some doe. M |
Mike Fisher (Mikef)
Junior Member Username: Mikef
Post Number: 129 Registered: 11-2001
| Posted on Wednesday, November 13, 2002 - 2:30 pm: | |
Mechanic claimed some foreign object got into the belt. I'll give him 50/50 on this. Could have been. But, needless to say I have found a new shop to do my work. Considering how much money I spent at this dealership in the past, I think they should have tried to work out something both of us could be happy with.
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Lawrence Coppari (Lawrence)
Member Username: Lawrence
Post Number: 381 Registered: 4-2002
| Posted on Wednesday, November 13, 2002 - 2:20 pm: | |
My expenses are about $4700 since I bought the 1987 328. I bought it in 1988. I'm not counting tire and oil changes. Major Service 3000 (in 1994) Oil cooler 350 Valve shims 50 Brake pads 400 Second major service 350 (done myself) Water pump 200 Batteries 150 Fog lamp bulb 5 Rear deck struts 120 Car has over 21K on it. So it is probably more like 5000 since I probably forgot about something. I have had little trouble with it. |
Edward Gault (Irfgt)
Intermediate Member Username: Irfgt
Post Number: 2236 Registered: 2-2001
| Posted on Wednesday, November 13, 2002 - 1:16 pm: | |
Yup! I did! I sold it.  |
Reiner Kaiser (Reinerkaiser)
New member Username: Reinerkaiser
Post Number: 29 Registered: 2-2001
| Posted on Wednesday, November 13, 2002 - 11:53 am: | |
Actually, maybe I've just been very lucky, or I was able to maintain my car really well, in either case, I only spent ~1000$ in parts (doing my own labor on routine maintenance jobs) for filters, gaskets, tools etc. on my 348 in 4 years of ownership. I did rebuild the alternator twice so far, and did two valve adjustments (second time actually check only, all valves were within spec). who said 348s are unreliable POS's? |
James Napolis (Napolis)
Junior Member Username: Napolis
Post Number: 56 Registered: 10-2002
| Posted on Wednesday, November 13, 2002 - 11:34 am: | |
My guess: 2X Purchase $ to operate for 10 years. 200K to 1000K to restore. |
TomD (Tifosi)
Intermediate Member Username: Tifosi
Post Number: 1698 Registered: 9-2001
| Posted on Wednesday, November 13, 2002 - 11:13 am: | |
mike you could have gotten a 355 for that!. Cam belt failure after 30k um what did the mechanic say!! Sounds like he forget something |
Mike Fisher (Mikef)
Junior Member Username: Mikef
Post Number: 128 Registered: 11-2001
| Posted on Wednesday, November 13, 2002 - 10:56 am: | |
YEAH!!!! Over $100,000.00 in five years including the purchase price on my 77 308GTB. Includes: Purchase price Suspension & Shocks Brakes Redo entire interior, seats, carpet, headliner, doors. Cam belt failure(320 miles after a $3000.00 service!) Repaint New original junk tires Dashboard fire which destroyed the entire interior which had just been totally redone, windshield, repaint, all electrics. ($44,000.00 repair bill) Water pump, AC, muffler, and etc etc. I must be NUTS! |
stu cordova (Balataboy)
Member Username: Balataboy
Post Number: 266 Registered: 4-2001
| Posted on Wednesday, November 13, 2002 - 10:07 am: | |
I like to think I'm a fairly sensible person, so I don't want to add up my receipts, as doing so would only confirm what a truly ridiculous hobbie owning an older Ferrari is!! (Denial can sometimes be a GOOD thing!)  |
Hans E. Hansen (4re_gt4)
Member Username: 4re_gt4
Post Number: 443 Registered: 4-2002
| Posted on Wednesday, November 13, 2002 - 12:36 am: | |
My 308GT4 came with receipts for about $5K worth of stuff in the 2 years previous to me buying it. Just little stuff - brake hoses, fuel lines, etc., etc., etc., etc. And this is on a car with only 14K miles! Adds up. |
BretM (Bretm)
Advanced Member Username: Bretm
Post Number: 2889 Registered: 2-2001
| Posted on Tuesday, November 12, 2002 - 1:26 pm: | |
I got a 3 hole binder for mine a couple months ago because the manila folder was getting ridiculously large, I also added them up, a frightening outcome to say the least. |
Jim E (Jimpo1)
Member Username: Jimpo1
Post Number: 933 Registered: 7-2001
| Posted on Tuesday, November 12, 2002 - 10:01 am: | |
I have a separate checking account that I use for a small business I have. I pay for Ferrari repairs out of that, so my wife never knows. I don't want to know either. |
James Selevan (Jselevan)
Junior Member Username: Jselevan
Post Number: 233 Registered: 6-2002
| Posted on Tuesday, November 12, 2002 - 9:50 am: | |
Ever think about the money spent per kilometer traveled on a sailboat?
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Mark Freeman (Mrpc12)
Junior Member Username: Mrpc12
Post Number: 86 Registered: 11-2001
| Posted on Tuesday, November 12, 2002 - 9:38 am: | |
I don't need to add them up. My wife always reminds me how much we spend on that "money pit". |
Ken (Allyn)
Member Username: Allyn
Post Number: 556 Registered: 10-2001
| Posted on Tuesday, November 12, 2002 - 7:33 am: | |
This question would give me heart failure if I added everything up. I'll guess I've spent $8k in the last year on the Europa. It's in nice shape now!! |
Frederick Thomas (Fred)
Member Username: Fred
Post Number: 673 Registered: 2-2001
| Posted on Tuesday, November 12, 2002 - 6:54 am: | |
I do the same thing Mark. My wife and I have adopted the Armys policy of don't ask, don't tell. |
Mr. Doody (Doody)
Member Username: Doody
Post Number: 584 Registered: 11-2001
| Posted on Tuesday, November 12, 2002 - 6:35 am: | |
on tuesdays i tally up all the costs on the 355 to get my weekly totals. on the other days of the week i just whack my head with a piece of copper pipe for twenty minutes or so. :-) the bruises go away fairly quickly. you guys are out of control! doody. |
Mark Eberhardt (Me_k)
Junior Member Username: Me_k
Post Number: 152 Registered: 5-2002
| Posted on Tuesday, November 12, 2002 - 6:29 am: | |
I never ever add up reciepts. I just quickly put them away in a folder before my wife sees them  |
Marq J Ruben (Qferrari)
Junior Member Username: Qferrari
Post Number: 116 Registered: 2-2002
| Posted on Tuesday, November 12, 2002 - 6:25 am: | |
I use a program called 'Car Care' into which you enter any monies spent on the car including fuel, mechanical repairs, insurance costs, parts purchases, registration fees,etc. It will give you a grand total and/or generate varying reports if you wish. Great program, but I rarely ask it to generate a 'total cost of operating' report!
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Peter Connolly (Mondial_32_aus)
Junior Member Username: Mondial_32_aus
Post Number: 101 Registered: 8-2001
| Posted on Tuesday, November 12, 2002 - 4:46 am: | |
I just did the numbers on my 87 Mondial 3.2 which I have owned since Feb 2001, all costs are in Australian dollars (approx double USD, ie: AUS$2=US$1). For detailed info see My Service History on my Mondial website http://fly.to/mondial
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jeff ryerson (Atheyg)
Junior Member Username: Atheyg
Post Number: 78 Registered: 8-2002
| Posted on Tuesday, November 12, 2002 - 12:14 am: | |
Just curious with those that have records added up the totals My 86 328 has over $41,000 in reciepts and records from the 3 previous owners, at 36k it had the rod berings replaced with other misc repairs also which totaled $4500 alone, must have run out of oil or some other failure |