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James Selevan (Jselevan)
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Post Number: 248
Registered: 6-2002
Posted on Monday, November 18, 2002 - 8:39 am:   

Lung - you are correct. Not many of us have a 130 mph habit. I have not seen this speed in my TR. Jeff's astute comment, along with the lift observation, only illustrates that there is a purpose to Ferrari's madness.
Lung (Lung7707)
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Username: Lung7707

Post Number: 93
Registered: 1-2002
Posted on Monday, November 18, 2002 - 1:04 am:   

A very astute observation Jeff.
jeff ryerson (Atheyg)
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Post Number: 88
Registered: 8-2002
Posted on Monday, November 18, 2002 - 12:19 am:   

I believe the spare tire is also for impact/crash protection, removing would weaken the front area
Lung (Lung7707)
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Post Number: 92
Registered: 1-2002
Posted on Monday, November 18, 2002 - 12:08 am:   

I agree that if you are going at 130mph or 280kmh it may not make a difference. But realistically I have not done 280kmh. I am thinking more in line of city driving or when I need to parallel park the car.
Michael N. (Man90tr)
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Post Number: 721
Registered: 4-2001
Posted on Sunday, November 17, 2002 - 10:39 pm:   

I agree with James. Personally above 130 I would take even more weight in the front - it does get kind of light "feeling" and the corrections are constant. The transition zone from super steady to more light in the front seems to be 120 - 130 for my car.
James Selevan (Jselevan)
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Post Number: 246
Registered: 6-2002
Posted on Sunday, November 17, 2002 - 10:08 pm:   

Lung - how light would you like the steering to feel at 130 mph? In an earlier thread I offered some technical data, obtained from a former FNA technical engineer, that the TR front bonnet generates approximately 400 pounds of LIFT at 130 mph.

This really reduces tire wear. You're right. Forty pounds will not make much of a difference - four hundred versus four hundred and forty, who's counting. The only noticable difference will be the climb rate.

Jim S.
Lung (Lung7707)
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Post Number: 91
Registered: 1-2002
Posted on Sunday, November 17, 2002 - 9:20 pm:   

hmmmm...I would imagine that 40lbs would be significant. Anyway, on top of the 40lbs, I was thinking of changing to the Speedline Monolite wheels (which SAC tells me is about 10lbs ligher/wheel compared to my 512M wheel). In total that would be about 60lbs or about 5 bowling balls.

What do you guys think? That should lighten the steering rite?
david a haney (David512bb)
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Username: David512bb

Post Number: 17
Registered: 1-2002
Posted on Sunday, November 17, 2002 - 10:39 am:   

The TR spare weighs 44 lbs. with the knock-off hub, and 4 lbs less with out. I have a beautiful TR spare, and 3 other skinny spares, (2 19" and 1 20") that I do not need, for sale, if interested.










Tom Jones (Ferrarioldman)
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Post Number: 23
Registered: 6-2002
Posted on Sunday, November 17, 2002 - 9:59 am:   

It doesn't weigh enough to make any difference.
Lung (Lung7707)
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Username: Lung7707

Post Number: 90
Registered: 1-2002
Posted on Sunday, November 17, 2002 - 7:18 am:   

1. What is the weight of the space saver spare tire in the testa?

2. Would the steering wheel feel lighter if I removed it? I cannot test it now as the car is in the shop.

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