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Sami Kallio (Skyline)
New member Username: Skyline
Post Number: 1 Registered: 4-2002
| Posted on Thursday, April 25, 2002 - 3:56 pm: | |
"You cannot have the best of all worlds (straight line speed, handling, reliability, european), unless you have enough money for a 911 turbo, which I don't at the moment." Being European is not a criteria for me so you can have the best of all worlds without paying for 911TT. Nissan Skyline GT-R. |
Manu Sachdeva (Manu)
Junior Member Username: Manu
Post Number: 151 Registered: 2-2002
| Posted on Wednesday, April 10, 2002 - 1:57 pm: | |
Thanks anyway Bret..... I think this video is going to require some REALLY close examination. I just can't figure it out. |
Randy (Schatten)
Member Username: Schatten
Post Number: 268 Registered: 4-2001
| Posted on Tuesday, April 09, 2002 - 3:11 pm: | |
lets not get started on the venom vipers. http://www.autoweek.com/cat_content.mv?port_code=autoweek&cat_code=carnews&loc_code=index&content_code=04383484 I will throw you more bulletin board links if you want to know, or perhaps if you have a viper and lots of money being held up by the guy. I've met him and also quite familiar with his antics and his basic driving skills behind the V10 on the race track. Dave - I'll let him know/have him get in touch with you. I should see him tomorrow night or this weekend. He's around! Also, throw me your email address so I can have him reach you. Thanks! |
BretM (Bretm)
Intermediate Member Username: Bretm
Post Number: 2217 Registered: 2-2001
| Posted on Tuesday, April 09, 2002 - 12:18 pm: | |
I listened to it again, I have no idea. My only thought is some sort of exhaust resonance between the loud radio, turbo supra, and the 550 coming up at full tilt. |
Manu Sachdeva (Manu)
Junior Member Username: Manu
Post Number: 150 Registered: 2-2002
| Posted on Tuesday, April 09, 2002 - 12:10 pm: | |
Guys... PLEASE..... (a bet is involved) What the hell is that wailing noise that occurs just as the 550 passes the supra..... Is it coming from the Ferrari???? or something else. Please watch the vid and help me win an argument. |
Manu Sachdeva (Manu)
Junior Member Username: Manu
Post Number: 146 Registered: 2-2002
| Posted on Sunday, April 07, 2002 - 5:04 pm: | |
Major argument after watching the 550 V Supra video........ Is the high-pitched wailing noise that can be heard just as the 550 passes the supra, coming from the 550's exhaust/engine or what is it???? Is it the guy making some kind of waaaaaah noise as the car passes,or is it a motorbike or something..... anyone? |
BretM (Bretm)
Intermediate Member Username: Bretm
Post Number: 2171 Registered: 2-2001
| Posted on Saturday, April 06, 2002 - 10:15 pm: | |
staunch, going to college has greatly decreased my ability to spell, enunciate, and verbal abilities in general. |
BretM (Bretm)
Intermediate Member Username: Bretm
Post Number: 2170 Registered: 2-2001
| Posted on Saturday, April 06, 2002 - 10:14 pm: | |
Even me, Mr. Staunt Ferrari enthusiast can't complain here. The Supra guys have been pretty cool (granted one of them is a Ferraristo). I will admit that the Supra is the only Jap car I would ever consider buying. Actually I almost did but got the 308 instead. |
Sinclair Mudaly (98ttsupra)
New member Username: 98ttsupra
Post Number: 3 Registered: 4-2002
| Posted on Saturday, April 06, 2002 - 8:16 pm: | |
peyman, i have not had the pleasure of driving a ferrari, but you are right im sure nothing compares to it. I raced a 355 barinetta a few months back..granted a beat him but damn that car looked sweet, not to mention it sounded mean as hell. I am not sure about all supra owners.. but i know a few including myself that love the site of a ferrari! i cant speak for all supra owners.. but i think what most ppl like or LOVE about the supra is that you can make it ungodly fast for not too much money at all. It comes pretty damn stout from the factory having a manual tranny that can take well over 800rwhp, not to mention a motor that can do the same with a STOCK bottem end! You must admit this is pretty damn impressive for a production car that is not nearly as high dollar as some of the cars owned by yall here. Oh i must say... i really liked the black leather with red stiching on Tonys ferrari.. that is pretty kick ass lil detail stuff, one of the lil things that makes the car so bad ass. Sinclair
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Ernesto Sgroi (T88power)
Member Username: T88power
Post Number: 302 Registered: 2-2001
| Posted on Saturday, April 06, 2002 - 8:12 pm: | |
Supra.... (let the bashing begin)... Ernesto |
1991 348TS (Ts_348)
New member Username: Ts_348
Post Number: 45 Registered: 3-2002
| Posted on Saturday, April 06, 2002 - 8:07 pm: | |
T 88 what do you run |
Ernesto Sgroi (T88power)
Member Username: T88power
Post Number: 301 Registered: 2-2001
| Posted on Saturday, April 06, 2002 - 8:01 pm: | |
HAHA... I eat Viper Venom's for breakfast.. But, You are right, none compares to the joy and excitement of driving a Ferrari!! Ernesto |
Peyman (Peyman)
New member Username: Peyman
Post Number: 12 Registered: 1-2002
| Posted on Saturday, April 06, 2002 - 4:58 pm: | |
All this discussion about a supra having 800hp, my reaction is who cares, a viper venom has more hp and is much faster than a 800hp supra, and many street v8's that run quicker 1/4's. At the end you can not compare it to a Ferrari, no matter how fast the supra is it will not give you the joy of driving a Ferrari, I have a viper and is faster than my 348 but who cares I enjoy driving the 348 much more. |
Sinclair Mudaly (98ttsupra)
New member Username: 98ttsupra
Post Number: 1 Registered: 4-2002
| Posted on Friday, April 05, 2002 - 11:24 pm: | |
The 550 owners name is Tony, i got to meet him in houston.. he is a stand up guy and he renews my faith in ferrari owners( as they come off as stuck up in general) His car makes 420 rwhp as it did on the dyno in houston. I was going to have a few runs with him but never got a chance to with a buch of ppl in the group, including a few vipers. I have BPU=Basic performance upgrades on my car just like that supra that raced him has.. and my car dynoed only 413 rwhp corrected.. so i was hoping tony and i could have a few runs because our power output to the wheels were real close. as someone mentioned earlier peter(tx2k2 organizer)940 rwhp.. but that was not corrected.. corrected he made around 840rwhp.. still damn impressive. since this is my first post.. i would like to say whats up to my fellow dawg owners on the board.. ernesto i have heard your name before.. i think on supra forums. to the rest of the board members HI! ps.. if yall want to see some supra footage go here.. www.christurner.net/supra if you want to see some of the dynos from houston go here. www.christurner.net/tx2k2/vids |
Dave (Maranelloman)
Junior Member Username: Maranelloman
Post Number: 83 Registered: 1-2002
| Posted on Thursday, April 04, 2002 - 8:39 am: | |
Randy, Can you invite him to join the FCA? Have him contact me if you'd like. I have seen his car, but never met him. There is another h=guy here with a metallic black 550 with Tubis, & modular wheels & shields who I am also recruiting. Thanks! |
Randy (Schatten)
Member Username: Schatten
Post Number: 260 Registered: 4-2001
| Posted on Thursday, April 04, 2002 - 3:00 am: | |
Julian - yeup! that's the guy I was thinking of! Have tried to get him over here or even to TWS on occassion. Still trying. |
Julian Pham (Julian_blk348)
Junior Member Username: Julian_blk348
Post Number: 75 Registered: 4-2001
| Posted on Thursday, April 04, 2002 - 1:13 am: | |
Here are the facts on the Supra and 550: _ They are both from Austin _ The owner of the 550 works for Dell and is a pretty cool guy. He'd let practically anyone test drive it. The 550 is his daily driver. His other car is the new M5 _ The owner of the Supra is my nephew. His car only has a few mods: intake, straight pipe, and what else I can't remember. In fact, his turbo went out on him on the way to a Houston Supra meet two weekends ago so the turbo was already weak when he raced against the 550. _ These guys have fun in Austin all the time and my nephew said that the 550 is very fast. A Viper friend of mine rode in this 550 and also said that it was quite impressive, fast and smooth, not like his Viper. I hope this solved the mystery |
Ernesto Sgroi (T88power)
Member Username: T88power
Post Number: 298 Registered: 2-2001
| Posted on Wednesday, April 03, 2002 - 5:40 pm: | |
The thing about the Vette is that I just dont like the way they ride, and the fit and finish and quality of the interior is just horrible! I just cant get used to American cars, that's all... Regarding the Supra, mine is a 6-speed. I have a spare tranny just in case, but I have never had any problems with it. And I have been running over 500hp practically since I bought it new in 93. I drive around with Yokohama A032R or BFG Drag Radials, so I have a little wheelspin but not much. I also drive around at low boost, so that isnt a problem... Ernesto |
Racer 001 (Mr_0011)
New member Username: Mr_0011
Post Number: 19 Registered: 3-2002
| Posted on Wednesday, April 03, 2002 - 4:12 pm: | |
Ernesto: IMHO you'll get just as much of a rush in a Tubro Callaway or what have you. I think your just bias. Just my opinion and I wanted to state it. I don't want to start any flames. Anyway, is your car is an auto? A lot of people think a 1000bhp manual Supra is the best thing out there, but I have to disagree. You must get so serious wheel spin, am I right? IMHO you have the sweet spot for the Supra. Between 600-800bhp. More is nice but I hear it just CHEWs right through manual trannies. Not sure why I just hear that from the owners (I know three which are Supra enthusiats). What time do you get in the 1/4 mile? That said I think the Supra is still most fun with a stick on a road corse.
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Randy (Schatten)
Member Username: Schatten
Post Number: 259 Registered: 4-2001
| Posted on Wednesday, April 03, 2002 - 12:59 pm: | |
Dave, did you go to the Houston meet this year or last year? I was at the Hitchcock course at the '01 Supra meet. Just wondering who else was there. |
Peter S�derlund /328 GTB -88 (Corsa)
Junior Member Username: Corsa
Post Number: 144 Registered: 4-2001
| Posted on Wednesday, April 03, 2002 - 12:54 pm: | |
Ernesto, I saw it in an add in AutoItalia approx one year ago. Ciao Peter |
Ernesto Sgroi (T88power)
Member Username: T88power
Post Number: 291 Registered: 2-2001
| Posted on Wednesday, April 03, 2002 - 8:06 am: | |
I would go with the 850cc injectors, that is what I had when I had my T78. They cost the same as the 720cc injectors, so you should go with them. Sounds like Texas was fun. I have always tried to make it to one of those meets, or Vegas, but I can never seem to get my schedule right. Hopefully I will go next year and we can meet. Good luck with your car, and feel free to e-mail me if you need any help. Ernesto |
David Bob� Jr. (Supraoz)
Junior Member Username: Supraoz
Post Number: 69 Registered: 9-2001
| Posted on Wednesday, April 03, 2002 - 7:52 am: | |
Ernesto, the gentleman that installed my T78 is going to build my fuel system. He does excellent work at excellent prices. I'm doing the 720cc injectors, should I do the 850cc? I want to be capable of high hp but most of the time i drive around with the boost controller off. Texas was a blast, i didn't know Toyota sold so many cars I was happy i went single b/c if I was still on twins I wouldn't have been able to keep up with everyone else. It should of been called a single turbo meet. A few guys laid down a lot of power. A t88h showed up on Friday and laided down 854rwhp on a stock bottom end. The event organizer put down 903rwhp w/ nos using a T72. I believe over 30 cars were dyno'd and 4 or 5 were over 800rwhp. The road course was fun, it was a little small but that kept everything safe. Everyone was really nice, i'm already looking forward to next years event. I'm still on my original clutch so i took it easy. |
Ernesto Sgroi (T88power)
Member Username: T88power
Post Number: 290 Registered: 2-2001
| Posted on Wednesday, April 03, 2002 - 7:50 am: | |
Yes my Supra has dynoed 741rwhp on a DynoJet. It should have way more than 800rwhp by now, but I have just have not taken it back. An 800hp Supra is not a rare thing, I can name dozens of examples that run this power and are daily driven. Richard, I agree that going around road courses or other curved tracks is much more fun and involving. That's why I do both! Peter, where is the street legal Sauber? I have never seen one anywhere near my roads... Ernesto
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Peter S�derlund /328 GTB -88 (Corsa)
Junior Member Username: Corsa
Post Number: 142 Registered: 4-2001
| Posted on Wednesday, April 03, 2002 - 4:55 am: | |
I believe there was a street legal Sauber (the formula 1 team you know) tuned Michelotti F40 in england for sale. It was capable of 250+ mph. Probably fairly good roadholding, handling and engine. I think it would eat any tuned riceburner at any track. Maybe Manu knows more about it. Ciao Peter |
James Dixon (Omnadren250)
Junior Member Username: Omnadren250
Post Number: 135 Registered: 7-2001
| Posted on Wednesday, April 03, 2002 - 12:40 am: | |
Sorry Chris, Didn't mean to come off sounding like a jerk. It's been a long day at school. Did you see the video??? It has a big hp supra laying it down on the dyno. This type of power output is quite common. I believe the block and pistons are good for over 600hp. James |
Chris Young (Bimmerboy)
New member Username: Bimmerboy
Post Number: 19 Registered: 12-2001
| Posted on Wednesday, April 03, 2002 - 12:30 am: | |
Whoa there James. I wasn't doubting that ANY Supra could do this. I'm just wondering where he gets his numbers. |
Mongrel (Mongrel)
New member Username: Mongrel
Post Number: 5 Registered: 2-2002
| Posted on Wednesday, April 03, 2002 - 12:13 am: | |
For the unfamiliar, a T88 is the largest turbo that can be installed in a Supra. It generates absurd amounts of power, but most of it is useless below 60 MPH. Perhaps most impressive is that 700+ rwhp is supported by the original factory engine, transmission, and rear end; just bolt on, and go. With its resources, Toyota can achieve anything it budgets money for. It will be interesting to follow their forray into F1 over the coming 5 years. |
James Dixon (Omnadren250)
Junior Member Username: Omnadren250
Post Number: 134 Registered: 7-2001
| Posted on Tuesday, April 02, 2002 - 11:22 pm: | |
Richard, Supras are not drag cars and they are no slouches on the twisty race tracks as well. You cannot have the best of all worlds (straight line speed, handling, reliability, european), unless you have enough money for a 911 turbo, which I don't at the moment. James
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Richard Stephens (Dino2400)
New member Username: Dino2400
Post Number: 50 Registered: 10-2001
| Posted on Tuesday, April 02, 2002 - 11:07 pm: | |
I just don't get it. Aiming for straight-line speed is a strange thing to chase. You are never going to even approach the fastest cars in the world. Hell, none of your cars can go anywhere near half the speed cars were capable of 40 years ago! What is more fun: going faster because you opened your wallet and had some new gadget put on your car and know how to hold the steering wheel straight while you push your foot to the floor -- OR going faster around curves and racetracks and real roads everywhere because you learned how to drive your car better? |
James Dixon (Omnadren250)
Junior Member Username: Omnadren250
Post Number: 133 Registered: 7-2001
| Posted on Tuesday, April 02, 2002 - 11:03 pm: | |
Chris, If you need proof as to the kind of power a supra puts down, check out the video I posted, at the bottom of the "had a fast and furious encounter" thread. James |
Chris Young (Bimmerboy)
New member Username: Bimmerboy
Post Number: 18 Registered: 12-2001
| Posted on Tuesday, April 02, 2002 - 10:09 pm: | |
Ernesto, are you baseing the ammount of HP your Supra has by adding the stock HP to what the estimated HP gain for the mods you've put on it are? Have you had it dyno'd? That seems like an awful lot of horsepower. |
James Dixon (Omnadren250)
Junior Member Username: Omnadren250
Post Number: 132 Registered: 7-2001
| Posted on Tuesday, April 02, 2002 - 8:57 pm: | |
Ernesto, I am considering swapping out my HKS twinners on my 98 supra to a single turbo setup. What setup, exactly, are you running?? What kind of boost numbers?? Thanks James |
Ernesto Sgroi (T88power)
Member Username: T88power
Post Number: 288 Registered: 2-2001
| Posted on Tuesday, April 02, 2002 - 7:59 pm: | |
What kind of fuel setup are you gonna run? I am installing a T88H in a few weeks.. should be good for 35 - 40 more hp. Keep me posted on your work! How was Texas? Anything new? Ernesto |
David Bob� Jr. (Supraoz)
Junior Member Username: Supraoz
Post Number: 68 Registered: 9-2001
| Posted on Tuesday, April 02, 2002 - 7:55 pm: | |
Ernesto, I'm gunning for you!..... Doing my fuel system next week. At Texas, I finally saw firsthand what a T88 can do! |
BobD (Bobd)
Member Username: Bobd
Post Number: 339 Registered: 3-2001
| Posted on Tuesday, April 02, 2002 - 7:36 pm: | |
Mike.... huh? Those last 3 posts are dandies! :-) |
Mike's 1991 RED 348TS (Ts_348)
New member Username: Ts_348
Post Number: 28 Registered: 3-2002
| Posted on Tuesday, April 02, 2002 - 7:29 pm: | |
i am just a fan of good old american power and Ferrari power and the new racing style is the imports oh is the any supra's from IL my son want go race you guys in his Vette |
Ryan M. Kehoe (Ryanab)
New member Username: Ryanab
Post Number: 7 Registered: 3-2002
| Posted on Tuesday, April 02, 2002 - 7:28 pm: | |
Good on these kids for doing something that they love, they're really passionate about these cars and take tremendous pride in them. Depending on the situation, I will race these kids safely and maturely. I know growing up I one day would wish that a Lambo would race me! |
Mike's 1991 RED 348TS (Ts_348)
New member Username: Ts_348
Post Number: 27 Registered: 3-2002
| Posted on Tuesday, April 02, 2002 - 7:27 pm: | |
hey what do you have done to that supra |
Mike's 1991 RED 348TS (Ts_348)
New member Username: Ts_348
Post Number: 26 Registered: 3-2002
| Posted on Tuesday, April 02, 2002 - 7:26 pm: | |
no i think the supra is a pritty nice car for the money its just that there are a lot of people out there with Civic's i am justnot a fan of Japanese car's but i do like the 300ZX the supra is nice to its just most of the people that drive them have manner's they dont care for other's people things but there are a lot of good people i must just be seeing the once the dont care for otehr peoples stuf. |
Ernesto Sgroi (T88power)
Member Username: T88power
Post Number: 285 Registered: 2-2001
| Posted on Tuesday, April 02, 2002 - 6:49 pm: | |
Yes, my definition of "street" is road legal. My Supra passes emissions, and has all the amenities that came from the factory. I have raced a few C5 Callaway Twin Turbo Vettes, and they are not as quick as 700 - 850hp Supras (and cost much more). Dont get me wrong, I still LOVE my Ferrari even more than I do my Supra, but no Ferrari can duplicate the rush of accelleration that 750hp will give you on a street car. By the way, I give a @#%^!! Ernesto |
BobD (Bobd)
Member Username: Bobd
Post Number: 337 Registered: 3-2001
| Posted on Tuesday, April 02, 2002 - 6:41 pm: | |
Wow, a 741 hp street Supra... maybe I was confusing street with stock???? What's the difference between street vs stock? I assume a modified, yet road legal car is "street"? If this is the case, it's pretty incredible your highly modified Supra is faster than a highly modified Corvette. But what the hell do I know??? (Answer: Very little about this.). Then again, who gives a s&%#? :-) |
Chris Pounds (Eggman)
New member Username: Eggman
Post Number: 8 Registered: 3-2002
| Posted on Tuesday, April 02, 2002 - 6:40 pm: | |
"Well, this infantile just posted a fact. Please just go back to ignoring the posts..." - Ernesto Whatever, dude. |
Ernesto Sgroi (T88power)
Member Username: T88power
Post Number: 284 Registered: 2-2001
| Posted on Tuesday, April 02, 2002 - 6:27 pm: | |
Yes it is a street supra |
BobD (Bobd)
Member Username: Bobd
Post Number: 336 Registered: 3-2001
| Posted on Tuesday, April 02, 2002 - 6:24 pm: | |
Ernesto, is your Supra a "street" Supra? |
Ernesto Sgroi (T88power)
Member Username: T88power
Post Number: 283 Registered: 2-2001
| Posted on Tuesday, April 02, 2002 - 6:20 pm: | |
Well, this infantile just posted a fact. Please just go back to ignoring the posts... Ernesto |
Chris Pounds (Eggman)
New member Username: Eggman
Post Number: 7 Registered: 3-2002
| Posted on Tuesday, April 02, 2002 - 6:17 pm: | |
"No street Ferrari or Corvette will beat my Supra in a straigh-line [sic] speed contest... " - Ernesto "all i have to say is that a Ferrari should kick a jap car's ass i know my sons corvette does he is running a 11.4@117mph " - Mike Usually, I just ignore these type of posts, but... I have to admit, this sounds like either (a) immature adults/kids; (b) classless, penis-envy dorks. It's just that I get tired of these posts on car forums. "My car is better than your car"..."Chevy is better than Ford"...blah blah blah. Please have something better to contribute than infantile tripe. Chris. |
wm hart (Whart)
Junior Member Username: Whart
Post Number: 182 Registered: 12-2001
| Posted on Tuesday, April 02, 2002 - 5:28 pm: | |
There is a whole culture of japanese tuner cars out there that is just is idiosyncratic, and cult driven as the ferrari mystique. I look at these guys and girls as the modern day equivalent of hot-rodders; some of what they do is junk, and some of it is pretty impressive. Granted, i wouldn't invest the huge sums that some do in these cars, but alot of people don't get why we, collectively, put so much money time and effort into our little red cars, either. There's a guy in Dobbs Ferry, near me, who is apparently world famous for his turbo-izing, and his cars are lightening fast. Interesting, most of these people are pretty respectful of ferrari, and other exotica even if it isn't their cup of tea. And, if i were a 20 year old kid without alot of money,i could see doing what they do, too. |
Ernesto Sgroi (T88power)
Member Username: T88power
Post Number: 281 Registered: 2-2001
| Posted on Tuesday, April 02, 2002 - 5:18 pm: | |
No street Ferrari or Corvette will beat my Supra in a straigh-line speed contest... Ernesto |
Racer 001 (Mr_0011)
New member Username: Mr_0011
Post Number: 17 Registered: 3-2002
| Posted on Tuesday, April 02, 2002 - 5:10 pm: | |
Mike is that ignorance or are you just not aware of performance Japanese engineering? I'm not talking about Camrys and Accords either. The Honda NSX forced Ferrari's to change when it was developed, believe me or not, the Skyline GT-R was banned from certain race series because it borrowed the most advanced AWD system in the world from the road car. Need I go on? The most prominate rally machines are from Subaru and Mitsubishi. etc. etc. The Japanese hardly make crap in the performance world. You haven't been informed that well. Why are they considered lesser cars? Becuase they come from a very high tech island that makes a lot of our electronics? Sheeeeeesh I say. Sterotypes are just that. American cars can turn and Japanese cars and be fast. Get over it. European cars will be my favorite but I'm not going to stick my head up my ass and say that every Toyota is a Cordoba or that a Viper GTS turns slower than a Semi. And I wasn't focusing the last paragraph on you. Just the lame sterotypes out there. I have a friend that drives and BMW M Coupe and in his little world BMW's and to an extent, Mercedes Benz's, are the best brands in the world. Idiot? No. He's just a darn yuppie.
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Mike's 1991 RED 348TS (Ts_348)
New member Username: Ts_348
Post Number: 25 Registered: 3-2002
| Posted on Tuesday, April 02, 2002 - 4:43 pm: | |
all i have to say is that a Ferrari should kick a jap car's ass i know my sons corvette does he is running a 11.4@117mph |
Racer 001 (Mr_0011)
New member Username: Mr_0011
Post Number: 15 Registered: 3-2002
| Posted on Tuesday, April 02, 2002 - 4:01 pm: | |
"Not that it would matter in the end the guy in the 550 was going home in a Ferrari and the Supra driver was on his way home in a Toyota." And Corvette guys will be driving away in Chevys, and Viper guys in Mopars. I think it's a positive thing when you spend less than $70k on a car that started out as a normal factory Toyota and you now have the performance of a Porsche GT2. And another thing, if it's modified there is a big chance that it's more exclusive than the Ferrari, because nobody else has the exact same car as you or the exact same modifications as you. Braging rights and braging rights. Different brands make different cars for different people. It's like this even with Ferrari. If an 360 Modena beats a 250... well, both a F car owners, but one will drive home in my Modena and the other in a more exculsive, or I guess I should say rare, 250. Does that make the 360 Modena any less of a fantastic machine?
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Martin (Miami348ts)
Intermediate Member Username: Miami348ts
Post Number: 1714 Registered: 5-2001
| Posted on Tuesday, April 02, 2002 - 12:15 pm: | |
I can not open an .wmv file  |
Randy (Schatten)
Member Username: Schatten
Post Number: 258 Registered: 4-2001
| Posted on Tuesday, April 02, 2002 - 12:00 pm: | |
Dave - pretty sure that the one I'm thinking of is a local here in Austin. |
Dave (Maranelloman)
Junior Member Username: Maranelloman
Post Number: 78 Registered: 1-2002
| Posted on Tuesday, April 02, 2002 - 11:49 am: | |
Randy, Is the owner from Paris, Texas? Or is he from here in Austin? I can see that it was filmed on Hwy. 183 going to the airport... |
David Bob� Jr. (Supraoz)
Junior Member Username: Supraoz
Post Number: 67 Registered: 9-2001
| Posted on Tuesday, April 02, 2002 - 9:10 am: | |
I wonder if the Lexus owners feel the same |
Harlan Mott (Hmott3)
Junior Member Username: Hmott3
Post Number: 87 Registered: 12-2001
| Posted on Tuesday, April 02, 2002 - 8:35 am: | |
Of course no offense taken, sorry if my post sounded like it was personal. I just wanted to post what I felt where the facts as I could see them in the video. In the end its just two cars, nice one if I do say so, but just cars. I wasn't taking anything away from either car, just posting the facts. For the record I wouldn't be surprised to see a light mod 550 beating a heavy mod Supra. Not that it would matter in the end the guy in the 550 was going home in a Ferrari and the Supra driver was on his way home in a Toyota. |
Racer 001 (Mr_0011)
New member Username: Mr_0011
Post Number: 13 Registered: 3-2002
| Posted on Monday, April 01, 2002 - 3:39 pm: | |
Hmott 3 "Racer 001, I think you are wrong about the Supra not trying. Based on what I know, the Supra was pushing with everything he had. Here is how I know this. On the Supra the Tach is in the middle of the dash and the redline is at about the 3 o'clock possition. If you watch this little race the Supra is waiting until full redline to shift. I don't know how much harder you can push your car on a straight road then waiting until redline to shift. We don't know if the 550 was pushing it, but I would guess he was also, he was after all walking a Supra. We also don't know the starting speed, all I can tell is it was over 40 mph. We also don't know if either of the cars are modded (do twieners exist that aren't modded?). I think maybe you should look at the video again, I don't know how you could say "Not what I call a race". If I honk my horn to say "GO" from over 40 mph, and then push to redline for 3 gears (looking at 2nd to 5th here), that my friend is a race. That is a video of what looks to me like two friends haveing a great race in two great cars. But in the end the "heavy 550 f-car" is leaving the Supra to "try and keep up"." You are correct. I saw that video at 1 -'clock in the morning. I wasn't all 'there', kinda sleepy. :p It's just hard to belive a near 4000lb. car with a 13sec 1/4 mile can beat a Supra that's been heavily modifed. You know, it CAN'T. In conclusion, the Supra wasn't heavily modified. It's just that I'm used to seeing Supra's in the 500bhp plus range with engine internals most likly beefed up. Sorry if you took offense from my previous post.  |
Manu Sachdeva (Manu)
Junior Member Username: Manu
Post Number: 126 Registered: 2-2002
| Posted on Monday, April 01, 2002 - 12:33 pm: | |
If the 550 had "lost" it wouldn't bother me at all. There is so much more to a Ferrari than outright performance. I will say that I think it is easy for 550 drivers to beat other heavily modified cars in drag races..... There is SOO much torque low down on very small throttle openings that this 1700kg beast is shifting like a bastard well before its anywhere near the limiter unlike the V8s (which are however ultimately more accelerative 'cos of the low weight). Think about it this way though - a de-catted, straight-piped 550 with a few other cheap mods and some race buckets approaches 535bhp and dips to ~1630kg...... With all that torque, it may still be heavy but it now becomes a VERY VERY fast car instead of 'just' supercar fast. |
Harlan Mott (Hmott3)
Junior Member Username: Hmott3
Post Number: 84 Registered: 12-2001
| Posted on Monday, April 01, 2002 - 9:21 am: | |
Racer 001, I think you are wrong about the Supra not trying. Based on what I know, the Supra was pushing with everything he had. Here is how I know this. On the Supra the Tach is in the middle of the dash and the redline is at about the 3 o'clock possition. If you watch this little race the Supra is waiting until full redline to shift. I don't know how much harder you can push your car on a straight road then waiting until redline to shift. We don't know if the 550 was pushing it, but I would guess he was also, he was after all walking a Supra. We also don't know the starting speed, all I can tell is it was over 40 mph. We also don't know if either of the cars are modded (do twieners exist that aren't modded?). I think maybe you should look at the video again, I don't know how you could say "Not what I call a race". If I honk my horn to say "GO" from over 40 mph, and then push to redline for 3 gears (looking at 2nd to 5th here), that my friend is a race. That is a video of what looks to me like two friends haveing a great race in two great cars. But in the end the "heavy 550 f-car" is leaving the Supra to "try and keep up". |
David Bob� Jr. (Supraoz)
Junior Member Username: Supraoz
Post Number: 64 Registered: 9-2001
| Posted on Monday, April 01, 2002 - 7:57 am: | |
That video is from a recent Texas event i believe. The owner of the 550 is very nice. He was out the entire weekend having a good time. |
Racer 001 (Mr_0011)
New member Username: Mr_0011
Post Number: 11 Registered: 3-2002
| Posted on Monday, April 01, 2002 - 2:44 am: | |
They were both just playing for sure. if the Supra had BPU it should have been able to pass up the (heavy) 550 F-car. And the Ferrari, if stock, should have been the one trying to keep up. Not what I call a race. |
Randy (Schatten)
Junior Member Username: Schatten
Post Number: 250 Registered: 4-2001
| Posted on Monday, April 01, 2002 - 12:31 am: | |
I'm pretty sure I know who the 550 belongs to. But he doesn't surf Ferrarichat. Hey, I've tried to tell him to drop by! No idea who the Supra owner is or any mods. The 550 goes out with the import and hot rod crowd quite often. Informed me at the drag strip it pulled a 13.08. Not sure how hard he hit it. Haven't seen him in a few months, but was informed he was going headed to one of a private group track day at TWS about a month ago. |
Mongrel (Mongrel)
New member Username: Mongrel
Post Number: 4 Registered: 2-2002
| Posted on Sunday, March 31, 2002 - 11:05 pm: | |
The Supra is modded...the extent of which I don't know. |
John A. Suarez (Futureowner)
New member Username: Futureowner
Post Number: 8 Registered: 3-2002
| Posted on Sunday, March 31, 2002 - 10:58 pm: | |
Wow, that 550 walked away from the Supra. Do we know if either car had any mods?? Thanks for the link to this! ---John |
Mongrel (Mongrel)
New member Username: Mongrel
Post Number: 3 Registered: 2-2002
| Posted on Sunday, March 31, 2002 - 10:36 pm: | |
http://www.enkahoi.com/suprav550.wmv
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