| Author | Message | ||
| magoo (Magoo)
Advanced Member Username: Magoo Post Number: 3741 Registered: 2-2001 |
As has already been hit on, I would tell him that my insurance states that I am the only one allowed to drive the car. I have pulled that one myself. I guarantee he will buy it. | ||
| BRIAN FAHERTY (Brian)
New member Username: Brian Post Number: 10 Registered: 10-2002 |
Hi I say" A clutch cost $4000.00 when your done." No one gets to practice driving on my clutch. I also add that my car is not a "car" it's my toy MY TOY Don't touch Touch and die When you cool down, show Mr wonderful your service bills and ask what he is going to give you in return. I let a pal of mine, owner of many english cars drive my mondial one day. He ground first gear, and slammed it into reverse (not second) every time. I pulled him over and said ride over. So- beginners burn clutch- experinced grind gears. As other posters say, take them for a ride in the shotgun seat. Later Brian | ||
| arthur chambers (Art355)
Member Username: Art355 Post Number: 837 Registered: 6-2001 |
Marc: I've told that 80% of the wrecked Ferraris are wrecked by other than the owner. Let him know that, and tell him that you'd be glad to give him a ride in it, but since they are so difficult to find and replace, you'd rather not let him drive. Art | ||
| Frank Parker (Parkerfe)
Intermediate Member Username: Parkerfe Post Number: 1588 Registered: 9-2001 |
Unless you have some type of special non-standard exclusions, your suto insurance will cover any "permissive user" of your car whether you are in the car or not. I have let my friends drive my Ferarri with me in the car before, but not often. | ||
| Ton Visser (Lion315)
New member Username: Lion315 Post Number: 15 Registered: 12-2002 |
Marc, I still think that offering him a ride in the passengerseat is the best option. I understand the problem but there is a million ways to say NO in a polite but definitive way. Just listen to your heart! If it says no it's no! | ||
| Norman Yung (Storminnormin)
New member Username: Storminnormin Post Number: 18 Registered: 7-2002 |
I would probably ask your wife to tell her brother-in-law in a good humored sort of way that you treat your car better than her and that you freak out if anybody touches it other than you. After all it is a Ferrari! Having her roll her eyes heavenward in an exasperated manner gives her response a bit of non-offensive humor. And then leave it and go on to the next topic. And if he still doesn't figure it out, then I think a straight NO would be justified. | ||
| Joseph (Mojo)
Junior Member Username: Mojo Post Number: 149 Registered: 9-2002 |
Tell him no, and you wont ask to drive his honda. | ||
| DES (Sickspeed)
Junior Member Username: Sickspeed Post Number: 79 Registered: 8-2002 |
Terry, Does a BMW 528i count as a sportscar (w/manual transmission)...? because that 308 in your profile looks mighty fine... | ||
| Terry Springer (Tspringer)
Member Username: Tspringer Post Number: 328 Registered: 4-2002 |
I will let pretty much anyone drive my cars, with a few groundrules. 1. I have to be in the car with you. 2. You must have some prior experience in driving sportscars and know how to properly use a manual transmission. 3. You agree and are capable of following through on the simple rule that if you break it, you bought it. As long as these rules are ok, no problems. Would I let my brother in law take one of my cars out for a spin while Im at work? Hmmmmmmm would I let him pop off a few rounds with my assault rifle in back yard? What, is he FREAKING INSANE! | ||
| Anthony_Ferrari (Anthony_ferrari)
New member Username: Anthony_ferrari Post Number: 34 Registered: 11-2002 |
Shouldn't all Ferraris be fitted with dual controls for situations like this!  | ||
| Robb Good (Robbgood)
New member Username: Robbgood Post Number: 19 Registered: 11-2001 |
Here is the scoop on the "my insurance covers me for ANY car I drive" question. Policies can vary, but generally a policy will cover the insured for the vehicles listed on the policy and any vehicles he may RENT (like Enterprise). They will cover both damage to the car, and the liability for hitting anyone else. While driving someones elses car (borrowing) your insurance would only cover you for EXCESS liability because the insurance generally travels with the car. So I drive some guys new ENZO and total it in a fiery accident........my insurance company is not going to cover the damage to the ENZO. After all, my insurance company is charging me for a lowly 308, not an ENZO. How could they possibly cover the cost of an ENZO based on my premium for a 308? The poor soul who let me drive his car had better call his insurance company. Likewise, if I let my brother-in-law drive my 308 and he totals it in a fiery accident.....my insurance company pays for the car. Now lets assume that when I totalled the ENZO I had actually hit 5 other exotics that were parked nearby and they all went up in ball of flames. If the owner of the ENZO did not carry enough liability insurance to pay for ALL the damage to the other exotics then I could be sued (since I was the driver) and my policy would cover me for these other....um.....lawsuits. Basically, you are responsible for your car and any damage that it may give or receive. Policies can change so it is best to call your agent and ask them. I own a agency in California so my example would be typical for any CA policies. Sorry for the graphic examples. Please don't hold me responsible for any emotional trauma you may have endured. Of course, no real cars were harmed in my post. I don't want the PETA people (People for the Ethical Treatment of Automobiles) attacking me for this. | ||
| Ron R (Ronr)
New member Username: Ronr Post Number: 30 Registered: 10-2002 |
I have a friend who bought a new Boxster a few months ago, and offered to let me drive it. I told him I'd rather wait until he'd had it for a while (I'd hate to bust up his new ride). Since then, I bought my Ferrari, and he's expressed an interest in driving it. Since it's new to me, I really don't want anyone driving it just yet, which is what I plan to tell him. Hopefully he's not too awfully offended. Just a little different spin on the situation, since he offered first. I imagine we'll trade drives sooner or later, just don't know when I'll be ready to let her go! If anyone has a dual turbo Testarossa who's dying to drive a 308, I might change my mind!! | ||
| Ernie Bonilla (Ernie)
Member Username: Ernie Post Number: 446 Registered: 11-2001 |
I have used this very successfully several times. Say: "A friend of mine gave me some good advice. He said "Don't lend your car to anyone unless they can afford to replace it."" Then I ask if they can afford to buy me another one if they wreck it. Gentle yet to the point. | ||
| Hans E. Hansen (4re_gt4)
Member Username: 4re_gt4 Post Number: 678 Registered: 4-2002 |
Martin: My insurance policy: "Any vehicles, owned or unowned." That's actually typed in where is says "Serial #" on the policy. | ||
| Tyler (Bahiaau)
Member Username: Bahiaau Post Number: 410 Registered: 12-2001 |
William, LOL Tell him hell yes, just as soon as he buys a car that is equitable to your TR that you can drive while he is at work paying for it. | ||
| Martin - Cavallino Motors (Miami348ts)
Advanced Member Username: Miami348ts Post Number: 3405 Registered: 5-2001 |
10-4 | ||
| Marc A. Thurston (Btownv12)
New member Username: Btownv12 Post Number: 7 Registered: 11-2002 |
Bruce - I like the insurance angle! - I doubt that anyone would question the insurance answer, but if they did I would revert to a harsher answer. Unfortunately my wifes brother-inlaw is not Mario Andretti,(we be really cool if he was) even though he probably thinks he is. To the best of my knowledge he has run every vehicle he has ever owned into the ground. Once I returned home from work on Wed. I provided rides for all of the family members who expressed an interest in the car. Martin - The guy is my wife's sister's husband. I think that makes him my wifes brother inlaw???? | ||
| Martin - Cavallino Motors (Miami348ts)
Advanced Member Username: Miami348ts Post Number: 3401 Registered: 5-2001 |
...now that does not make any friggn sense, but hey if they cover it.... Jim, NO YOU STILL CAN NOT DRIVE MY CAR ! | ||
| Jim Schad (Jim_schad)
Member Username: Jim_schad Post Number: 521 Registered: 7-2002 |
On the rental car note. I am covered. That is just an upsell item for them, but it also covers their car. When I rent for personal use I don;t buy the extra insurance as I am covered. If I travel on business I sometimes buy it as the bill goes back to client not me and my insurance is not involved | ||
| Jim Schad (Jim_schad)
Member Username: Jim_schad Post Number: 520 Registered: 7-2002 |
Okay, just called agent State Farm. I am covered on anything I drive if I have your permission to drive it. If it is registered to me or wife etc it has to be covered on my policy. Now here is what I wasn't thinking about. I am limitied to $25,000 damages. Meaning if I crash your $50K car I am covered for half and the rest you will have to squeeze out of my wallet if your insurance will not cover the balance. The max property damage they will go up to is $500K so I better not be driving anyones F50 for sure! | ||
| Ernesto (T88power)
Member Username: T88power Post Number: 931 Registered: 2-2001 |
I am also covered on any car I drive - as long as it is not registered to me or to anyone in my household. If I crash my wife's/son's/father's car and he/she lives at the same address that I do and I am not insured for it, I will not be covered. Ernesto | ||
| David Jones (Dave)
Member Username: Dave Post Number: 443 Registered: 4-2001 |
Martin, my wife does not even get to drive my F-car... By the way, I'm with Jim on the Insurance... I am covered in any car I drive. Marc, just say no... It's your car. But I would give him a ride. | ||
| Martin - Cavallino Motors (Miami348ts)
Advanced Member Username: Miami348ts Post Number: 3398 Registered: 5-2001 |
Jim, use logic. If that be the case why would rental car companies offer insurance. Why do you have insurance on all of your cars and not just one, the cheapest one mind you. I could get insurance for my Jeep and drive the Ferrari and still be insured. Some insurance cos allow rentals to be covered under their policy. very unique but only for rentals. ask them i want to see their answer. "so if I trash my friends Ferrari is that covered under my basic insurance of my Geo Metro Convertible?" (and no, I am not saying Jim has a geo, just speaking hypothetical) The Geo is his sisters brothers wifes cousin that was married to their daughters stepsons friend. | ||
| DES (Sickspeed)
Junior Member Username: Sickspeed Post Number: 51 Registered: 8-2002 |
i've never asked anyone if i could drive their Ferrari (or other sports car i wouldn't mind sinking my racing-gloved hands into), however, i did get an offer from a guy, once, to have him give me a ride in his... long story, but i said no 'cause it was the right thing to say- (oooh, i hate myself...!) the insurance reply sounds great... ...but Jim's answer is full proof... if he still asks to drive after you've told him you'll drive him, then use the insurance reply... if those two together, don't work, then you've just gotta be straight up and tell exactly what dave said... | ||
| Jim Schad (Jim_schad)
Member Username: Jim_schad Post Number: 519 Registered: 7-2002 |
Martin: must be his wife's sister's husband. Brother in law. I think my insurance works that way or at least that is what they told me years ago...or what I heard. Hmm. Maybe better call to be sure. | ||
| William H (Countachxx)
Intermediate Member Username: Countachxx Post Number: 1606 Registered: 2-2001 |
can I drive your wife ? | ||
| Dave Penhale (Dapper)
Member Username: Dapper Post Number: 399 Registered: 4-2002 |
"michael andretti, that changes everything" Sure does, he DEFINITELY wouldnt get to drive mine! | ||
| Martin - Cavallino Motors (Miami348ts)
Advanced Member Username: Miami348ts Post Number: 3391 Registered: 5-2001 |
Jim, I am sure that your insurance does not cover my car if I let you drive it and you crash! Certainly not! I would call my insurance agent on that, somebody is putting sand in your eyes there. | ||
| Martin - Cavallino Motors (Miami348ts)
Advanced Member Username: Miami348ts Post Number: 3390 Registered: 5-2001 |
your wifes brother in law....wouldn't that make it your brother? just curious. The answer is "NO, sorry! I feel very strong about my car and nobody except my wife and my mechanic are allowed to drive this car." | ||
| Jim Schad (Jim_schad)
Member Username: Jim_schad Post Number: 516 Registered: 7-2002 |
I thought of the insurance slant, but my insurance covers me in anything I drive so he could use that as a comeback. Just act like you didn't hear him and keep talking. | ||
| BobD (Bobd)
Member Username: Bobd Post Number: 814 Registered: 3-2001 |
"Certainly you can drive my car. But I'll need a $15,000 non-refundable deposit first." | ||
| Anthony_Ferrari (Anthony_ferrari)
New member Username: Anthony_ferrari Post Number: 29 Registered: 11-2002 |
My friend has a 348 and I would never ask to drive it as I would be uninsured I know neither of us could afford to fix it if anything happened. He did insure it for me for my wedding day though - I'll post pics sometime. I also know a guy with a 355 who has let me drive it, but the difference is I know if I totalled it he'd just get another one! | ||
| Lawrence Coppari (Lawrence)
Member Username: Lawrence Post Number: 416 Registered: 4-2002 |
With regard to your wife's brother-in-law, some people have more chutzpah than brains. | ||
| ross koller (Ross)
Member Username: Ross Post Number: 597 Registered: 3-2002 |
the insurance issue is the best and, in my case, the truth. a ride should suffice. on the other hand, if your brother in law is michael andretti, that changes everything..... | ||
| bruce wellington (Bws88tr)
Intermediate Member Username: Bws88tr Post Number: 1225 Registered: 4-2002 |
matt | ||
| Matt Lemus (Mlemus)
Member Username: Mlemus Post Number: 800 Registered: 8-2002 |
Right on Bruce. BYW - ride only. | ||
| Andrew (Mrrou)
Member Username: Mrrou Post Number: 410 Registered: 3-2002 |
if it was me id just give the relative a ride andrew | ||
| Dave (Maranelloman)
Member Username: Maranelloman Post Number: 590 Registered: 1-2002 |
I like Jim Schad's response best. Or you could just say, "Not just No, but [expletive deleted] NO!!" | ||
| bruce wellington (Bws88tr)
Intermediate Member Username: Bws88tr Post Number: 1223 Registered: 4-2002 |
marc very simple, like i tell all my relatives "this is an exotic car with exotic car insurance, the car is only insured for my driving" no other drivers... it works all the time.. bruce | ||
| Jim E (Jimpo1)
Intermediate Member Username: Jimpo1 Post Number: 1012 Registered: 7-2001 |
You could if I didn't think you were such an a$$hole.... | ||
| JRV (Jrvall)
Member Username: Jrvall Post Number: 270 Registered: 11-2002 |
""You gotta be outa your FREAKIN mind !!!!"" or "What are You FREAKIN NUTS !!!" or "I really would let you but, it's out of gas" and the battery is dead and one of the tires has a big nail in it I didn't get fixed yet . ;-) | ||
| Jim Schad (Jim_schad)
Member Username: Jim_schad Post Number: 515 Registered: 7-2002 |
Just reply "I'll give you a ride in it...." That way you don't have to say NO and he should get the hint and be satisfied with a ride. | ||
| Marc A. Thurston (Btownv12)
New member Username: Btownv12 Post Number: 6 Registered: 11-2002 |
After the Thanksgiving day guests left Thursday, my wife mentioned to me that her brother-in-law wanted to take my 89 Tr out for a spin while I was at work Weds morning. (She said that she had to check with me) I know that the question will arise soon - "Can i drive your car?" Instead on the standard and to the point "NO", what are some of the better responses that you have heard? |