| Author | Message | ||
| Greg Rodgers (Joechristmas)
Member Username: Joechristmas Post Number: 547 Registered: 3-2001 |
I think they are wonderful cars. I feel they get respect. | ||
| William H (Countachxx)
Intermediate Member Username: Countachxx Post Number: 1667 Registered: 2-2001 |
The TRs are like works from Michelangelo, the Enzo is more of a Picasso. I prefer Michelangelo over Picasso any day  | ||
| Todd Gieger (Todd328gts)
Member Username: Todd328gts Post Number: 289 Registered: 6-2002 |
I don't own a TR yet never thought of this no respect thing. I almost bought a black/black convertible that was for sale on ebay about a year ago on ebay from Naples, FL...the seller just wouldn't answer my questions so I bagged it... IMO, all Ferraris have something about them that differentiates themselves from the other. The TR has a mysterious evilness and this bad ass attitude about it that separates it from other Ferraris...(almost like the car is daring you to fight saying, "you want a piece of me?") Put that in your pipe and smoke it...or herb Happy holidays all! TTG | ||
| Glen Mckenna (Johndillinger)
New member Username: Johndillinger Post Number: 42 Registered: 7-2002 |
I think it has the best ass by far - even better than some of my ex-girlfriends.... | ||
| Dr. George Petito (Doc18015)
Junior Member Username: Doc18015 Post Number: 72 Registered: 12-2001 |
Hey Jeff...you asked for a thrashing, I respectfully submitted! Lighten up, Bro I love my TR and could care less what someone else thinks. I also know that that the TR sets an example of superb stying, engineering and public acceptance since its inception. Hopefully you will grow into a similiar scenario with yours. Put on an aftermarket exhaust and roar by the "lame" that remark otherwise. Salute! | ||
| Ryan Patrick Baker (Want_a_daytona)
Junior Member Username: Want_a_daytona Post Number: 75 Registered: 7-2002 |
I have much respect for the TR. It is among my favorties in the Ferrari world. | ||
| Jeff Green (Carguy)
Junior Member Username: Carguy Post Number: 81 Registered: 10-2002 |
Dave that's a clever one! | ||
| Ben Lobenstein 90 TR (Benjet)
Member Username: Benjet Post Number: 935 Registered: 1-2001 |
Rodney Dangerfield impersonator voice on: "I don't get no respect, no respect I tell ya" hehehe -Ben | ||
| David J. Smith (Darkhorse512)
Junior Member Username: Darkhorse512 Post Number: 73 Registered: 10-2002 |
Yeah yeah, every car has a soul. I'd rather have an aldente Italian over the corn fed Kentuckian. | ||
| Jeff Green (Carguy)
Junior Member Username: Carguy Post Number: 80 Registered: 10-2002 |
Your Right! I tip my hat to you Joseph. | ||
| Joseph (Mojo)
Junior Member Username: Mojo Post Number: 158 Registered: 9-2002 |
Jeff ZR1 has no soul? Please, kia,yugo,daywoo,ect. maybe but ZR1 has soul if a car can have soul. | ||
| peter brinzey (Ferraripete)
New member Username: Ferraripete Post Number: 31 Registered: 11-2002 |
hey ferrari guys know about zr-1's also. especially know not to mess with them in public. they are some of thew fastest production cars ever! the zr-1 is a special car! | ||
| Joseph (Mojo)
Junior Member Username: Mojo Post Number: 156 Registered: 9-2002 |
I see you have answered your own question. Very good Mojo | ||
| Jeff Green (Carguy)
Junior Member Username: Carguy Post Number: 78 Registered: 10-2002 |
Buy a ZO6? I did own a quick ZR-1 for a few years, Quasar Blue with Tan. The car was just beautiful and mint, kept it like new. I've always dreamed of owning an exotic, specifically a Ferrari. Although I enjoyed that Vette and the many other Vettes I've owned, the time was right for a change. I wanted something more unique. I think the Z06 suffers like the ZR-1 did, from an identity crisis. Vette guys know it when they see one, but the average guy on the street just sees a vette and doesn't realize how special the car is. But the car I have now is really special. Ferrari has soul....it's not about being the quickest or fastest. It's about passion, heritage, and the emotions that driving a Ferrari stirs up. I'm so lucky to get my TR. All my other cars were just stepping stones to a Ferrari. For me there is nothing else now. I do love vettes, and still work on them now and then for friends and family. But on a nice day, I hop in the TR, hear that sound, smell that smell...man there's nothing else like it. We accept her being tempermental, that's the price for having a car that is like a beautiful woman. But she also puts you on top of the world. Sorry guys, I get misty-eye'd sometimes. | ||
| peter brinzey (Ferraripete)
New member Username: Ferraripete Post Number: 30 Registered: 11-2002 |
i too looked at a bbi, tr and countach. the bbi won and cost the most as well. i still want a tr though!!! to appreciate the car it must be driven or seen on the road. pictures just do not do the car justice! it must be one of the most imposing cars ever...period! they shuda used a red or black one on miami vice...but because of miami vice...you can always get a great deal on a white one. case in point, ferrair in newport has one for $65,000. 6000miles and the value proposition is unreal!@!! if it is there in the spring...it's mine!! | ||
| Joseph (Mojo)
Junior Member Username: Mojo Post Number: 155 Registered: 9-2002 |
Sell it Jeff and buy a Z06 | ||
| Grigio_512 (Grigio_512)
New member Username: Grigio_512 Post Number: 5 Registered: 11-2002 |
Jeff, As a relatively new 512TR owner I did look into the availablity of parts, bad rap of Miami Vice, etc...but in the end I gotta love the "work of art", power, presence and feeling I get when you open her up. IMHO, isn't that what counts? You have to trust your own gut sensations that got you to acquire that Testarossa in the first place and not anyone elses. FYI, everywhere I go I get the support/respect from everyone, but then again maybe not the type you're talking about. Enjoy. | ||
| Francisco J. Quinones (Frankie)
Junior Member Username: Frankie Post Number: 97 Registered: 8-2002 |
beautiful car Jeff, just drive and enjoy it  | ||
| bruce wellington (Bws88tr)
Intermediate Member Username: Bws88tr Post Number: 1266 Registered: 4-2002 |
no prob jeff......... | ||
| Jeff Green (Carguy)
Junior Member Username: Carguy Post Number: 76 Registered: 10-2002 |
Hi Bruce...no offense intended....I am actually glad everyone shared their views on this, even those who feel "no respone" is warranted. I have a better perspective on this issue now. That is what I tried to say in my last post. But in reading it again, I can see how it could be taken the wrong way. Sorry 'bout that. | ||
| bruce wellington (Bws88tr)
Intermediate Member Username: Bws88tr Post Number: 1264 Registered: 4-2002 |
hey jeff take it easy man..everyone here is entiled to post what they want to..if it bothers you..dont respond..just care of yourself... have a great day jeff bruce | ||
| Jeff Green (Carguy)
Junior Member Username: Carguy Post Number: 75 Registered: 10-2002 |
In your view this thread deserves no repsonses? Yet you have posted twice? Apparently many felt that a response was needed to talk some sense into the person who started it - ME ! If a particular thread does not deserve a response from you, then just don't respond. | ||
| Dr. George Petito (Doc18015)
Junior Member Username: Doc18015 Post Number: 70 Registered: 12-2001 |
SORRY......The phone call was made to "WHACK" this thread. | ||
| Dr. George Petito (Doc18015)
Junior Member Username: Doc18015 Post Number: 69 Registered: 12-2001 |
I did not think that this thread deserved a response.....and, I still do not! | ||
| ross koller (Ross)
Member Username: Ross Post Number: 600 Registered: 3-2002 |
the 512tr is a watershed car in ferrari history. i love mine and hope never to sell it. to comment on some of the other questions re the driveability vs the 8's; unfortunately the tr line suffers in this respect. the low and wide aspect that we all love makes it a much harder drive in traffic, parking garages, narrow london streets etc. so although i appreciate my 512 100 times more than i liked my 348, the latter was easy to drive in those same situations. on the other hand, to use one of my favorite sayings, 'nothing worthwhile is every easil'. | ||
| Jordan Witherspoon (Jordan747_400)
New member Username: Jordan747_400 Post Number: 3 Registered: 12-2002 |
I agree with what others have said: You either love it or hate it. The Testarossa is my dream car and after I have a 308 for a couple years I wanna sell it and save up for a Testarossa To me, that is one of the greatest Ferrari designs ever made. It is instantly recognizable as a Ferrari...much like the Diablo is instantly recognizable as a Lamborghini. | ||
| David J. Smith (Darkhorse512)
Junior Member Username: Darkhorse512 Post Number: 71 Registered: 10-2002 |
Jeff Casp Passive restraint belts didn't show up until half way through the '87 model year. Rob, kill this thread before prices on my favorite model go up! | ||
| V.Z. (Ama328)
New member Username: Ama328 Post Number: 33 Registered: 11-2002 |
Thanks, Doc I.M.I. - yes, i'm aware that the 12s have a lot more oomph than a 'lowly' 328; i just happen to like the styling/package of 328, but wanna pick up another car or two. Mondial would be a 328 Mondial for driver, but i really like the 412 look, even tho it is a bit older. TR/512TR come into play because of so much bang/$$. And, to confuse things even more, some 456's are slipping into the obtainable zone... What's the old line "i can afford whatever i want, but not everything i want" ? Kinda comes into play here. At this point, looks like i'll get some $$ together sometime middle-ish 2003 and try to figure sumpin' out. Don't have to worry about city congestion, and i work outa the house, so have a lot of flexibility in what i drive/when i drive. Thanks all for the info... | ||
| Dr. I. M. Ibrahim (Coachi)
Junior Member Username: Coachi Post Number: 146 Registered: 5-2002 |
V. Z., I have owned and driven a Mondial and a 412 for short period of times. I don't want to insult anyone, but the Mondial is anemic compared to a TR which I still own since 1986. The 412 that I owned for a month or so was pink in color , salmon pink almost, and was a5 speed, manual,not automatic. It had a lot ofzip but I hatedthe lines. Too boxy forme. The TR is truly a great design...and a true bargain in the Ferrari world. Go for it. | ||
| Andr� Ferreira da Costa (Oporto328)
New member Username: Oporto328 Post Number: 17 Registered: 9-2002 |
I'd trade my 328 for a TR today if I could. I think it's one of the most beautiful/spectacular Ferrari ever. It's so low and wide!!! | ||
| Bill Sawyer (Wsawyer)
Member Username: Wsawyer Post Number: 566 Registered: 2-2002 |
BRUCE: GLAD TO SEE THAT YOU'RE BACK ON THE SAUCE. DON'T DRINK ALL TEN CASES AT ONCE!!!!!! YOUR BUDDY, BILL  | ||
| William H (Countachxx)
Intermediate Member Username: Countachxx Post Number: 1615 Registered: 2-2001 |
Jeff, dont get a COuntach unless you are a masochist & enjoy mechanical nightmares 512TR is the way to go 355s, 308s, 328s are great looking cars but their hp pales when compared to the big flat 12 | ||
| Tyler (Bahiaau)
Member Username: Bahiaau Post Number: 412 Registered: 12-2001 |
The TR and 512TR are the most beautiful production cars ever! The Diablo may be wilder, but I've seen both at car shows together and while everyone stares once at the Diablo, you can see people's eyes move slowly and longingly along the flanks of the TR. | ||
| Michael N. (Man90tr)
Member Username: Man90tr Post Number: 737 Registered: 4-2001 |
Jeff, I forgot to answer the years question. I think they came in 88 and dissappeared with the 512 in 92. I would not recommend nixing a year just for those -- they are easily manually clipped so what's the difference if they work or not as you still have to move your hands to clip the true manual ones. Might even be a good point to discount a few bucks on a car though. Michael | ||
| Jeffrey Caspar (Jcaspar1)
New member Username: Jcaspar1 Post Number: 50 Registered: 5-2002 |
Thanks Michael. I am still deciding between the TR, 512BB and Countach for my next sportscar. I have plenty of time as it will require a move to a house with more than 3 garage spaces as I cannot sell my current car and cannot convince my wife to park her Volvo outside! | ||
| Raleigh Smith (288gto)
New member Username: 288gto Post Number: 47 Registered: 10-2002 |
I think the TR is great and considered one but was told it isn't a good city car. My other thought is that the 512BB and 246 were the most beautiful cars Ferrari ever put out. The only thing that would have made the 512 more pleasing to me would have been to put the rear gills and curved tail piece from the 288GTO. That is just my opinion and I am not second guessing anyone. No flame needed. | ||
| Michael N. (Man90tr)
Member Username: Man90tr Post Number: 736 Registered: 4-2001 |
Yes, the seatbelts suck. $3,000 ECUs that run them are not worth it. If they break, don't fix, just manually clip them. The first one to go is usually the passenger side as it gets used less often. A comment about the 3 series. I drove in a 355 once and the deal was to run through up to 3rd gear. Then when we switched cars to the TR and the other driver's response was "oh sh**". Can't go backwards after the TR. The 355 just didn't have the BANG....a better track car yes as it corner's better but better not let me be within 100 feet with 300 feet of straight coming up -- can blow doors at that time. | ||
| Greg (Greg512tr)
New member Username: Greg512tr Post Number: 50 Registered: 2-2002 |
A drive in the 512TR is almost always met with smiles and "thumbs ups". There is lack of respect from Keith Martin from Sports Car Market for TR's but have never seen him discuss a 512TR. Within the F community I think the 512TR is well respected due to the lower production numbers (2,280) and all around better car than a TR. Aas far as lack of respect for a F car I would say it would be a Mondial 8. | ||
| Jeffrey Caspar (Jcaspar1)
New member Username: Jcaspar1 Post Number: 49 Registered: 5-2002 |
Are you kidding? TR's (and 512BB) are my favorite modern Ferrari's. Much better looking than the later 3 series (348/355/360) and the flat 12's make them really cool. I see a lot more of the later 3 series then TR's. Speaking of TR's, I have noticed that some seem to have those really annoying automatic seatbelts. Are they as bad as they were in other cars and if so which years are free of them? | ||
| bruce wellington (Bws88tr)
Intermediate Member Username: Bws88tr Post Number: 1252 Registered: 4-2002 |
V Z THE ONLY THING I WILL SAY , IS THAT AFTER YOUR DRIVE A TR, AND GOING BACK TO YOUR 328, YOU WILL BE SCRATCHING YOUR HEAD.. THE TORQUE AND POWER OF THE TR IS BREATHLESS... | ||
| V.Z. (Ama328)
New member Username: Ama328 Post Number: 31 Registered: 11-2002 |
oops, damn typos: CARE to contrast TR/512TR vs. 328 | ||
| V.Z. (Ama328)
New member Username: Ama328 Post Number: 30 Registered: 11-2002 |
Ok, a biggie question here - not trying to stir anything up, but i, too, have noticed that prices on TR & 512TR are in the obtainable zone...the question: Car to compare/contrast TR/512TR vs. 328 ? I've got a 328GTB, like it quite a bit, but am thinking about what to get next(still gonna keep the 328, just thinking about adding on): Mondial, 400/412, or late TR...all quite different...yeah, the TR is a bit flashy, but i suspect that once you get past the 'Sonny Crockett' image, there's a lot there... Comments/suggestions? | ||
| Jeff Green (Carguy)
Junior Member Username: Carguy Post Number: 61 Registered: 10-2002 |
I just wanna say THANK YOU to all for making me and my TR feel at home. | ||
| James Glickenhaus (Napolis)
Junior Member Username: Napolis Post Number: 197 Registered: 10-2002 |
Drove my TR for 14 years. Was never dissed. Parked it on the street, drove it through the South Bronx, people smiled, waved, and gave me thumbs up where ever I went. Strapped my daughter's baby seat into it and took her for a ride, she cried when I traded it in. I did too... | ||
| bruce wellington (Bws88tr)
Intermediate Member Username: Bws88tr Post Number: 1248 Registered: 4-2002 |
JEFF WHAT WINE DO YOU DRINK,?? LET ME KNOW AND ILL ORDER 10 CASES.... THE TR( NOT BECAUSE I OWN ONE)IS A BEAUTIFUL PIECE OF WORK, I CANT EVEN GET GAS WITHOUT ATTRACTING A CROWD, ITS PROBABLY PININFARINAS FINEST DESIGN AND FERRARIS MOST SORT AFTER CAR TO OWN I LOVE IT AND IF PEOPLE DONT LOVE IT, F@#CK THEM... YOU ARE DRIVING IT AND PAYING THE LOAN.. | ||
| William H (Countachxx)
Intermediate Member Username: Countachxx Post Number: 1614 Registered: 2-2001 |
The body on the TR is simply one of the most gorgeous forms ever to grace an automobile. I think its the most gorgeous production car in the world. Period. Only the 330P4 & a few exotic race cars can match her beauty. She is Pininfarina's masterstroke, a Michelangelo for the 20th Century | ||
| magoo (Magoo)
Advanced Member Username: Magoo Post Number: 3656 Registered: 2-2001 |
Jeff, You have a car that many guys would give their right nut to have. Wake up and enjoy it...... | ||
| Steve Marschman (Hossheim)
New member Username: Hossheim Post Number: 10 Registered: 8-2001 |
Just put a Tubi on your TR, and when people start trash talking, simply open the door, climb in, start it up, rev it a bit, drop the clutch and step on the gas. I promise you won't hear them, and you won't care. | ||
| Mike Procopio (Pupz308)
New member Username: Pupz308 Post Number: 23 Registered: 10-2002 |
Everyone's F-car respect comes from different places, it seems. For many, it was the 308 through Magnum PI--this sort of thing. Not to trivialize the thread, but I will always bow down to the TR. When I was 9 years old, my parents gave me Accolade's "Test Drive" for Christmas, a 16-color classic computer arcade game where you raced exotics around a mountain. There was a Countach, a 911, a Vette, a Lotus Esprit (COOL!), and... a Testarossa. Guess which one was always my favorite to drive in the game? The car has since earned my respect again. Studying abroad in France in college, I was running (after having consumed much vodka) towards the train station to catch a soon-to-depart train to Nice with all my buddies. I hear this growl. Is it a dog? No. It's a TR coming across the bend. I do a 180, still moving forward, in order to watch it as it goes by--promptly falling on my ass, making a permanent dent ( and leak, too) in my vodka flask. Yes, the TR tought me a lesson that night--I will always respect this car! Mike | ||
| Marc A. Thurston (Btownv12)
New member Username: Btownv12 Post Number: 10 Registered: 11-2002 |
I love my TR! There are very few cars in the market that I would ever consider trading my TR for. As long as you are happy with the car - who cares what anyone else thinks! Most are jealous anyway | ||
| Greg (Greg512tr)
New member Username: Greg512tr Post Number: 49 Registered: 2-2002 |
I went to an invitation only grand opening party of a swanky botique hotel last night in Dallas. I did not have an invitation and they were turning people away as it was packed. I drove up and they waived me through. The guy said anybody with a car like mine should be in. I think few Ferrari's have the presence of a TR. If I had been in a 550 they would have turned me away | ||
| Bill Sawyer (Wsawyer)
Member Username: Wsawyer Post Number: 565 Registered: 2-2002 |
First let me say that I love the TR. In many people's minds the TR represents a time in history that is out of style. Non-enthusiasts have difficulty separating the fast, torquey supercar we love from the drug dealing, Miami Vice, Eighties-excess image it has acquired. America is in a recession, and we no longer embrace the flashy, outrageous icons of that period in our history. That's why Ferrari went conservative with the 550 Maranello. They anticipated the market shift and profited from it. The people who populate this forum are savvy enough to recognize that the TR is a superior automobile and ignore its public image. I expect the TR to come back in style eventually, and when it does, those who were savvy enough to take advantage of the market slump will reap the rewards. As others have said, buy what you love and forget what others think, especially my fellow Michiganians! | ||
| magoo (Magoo)
Advanced Member Username: Magoo Post Number: 3646 Registered: 2-2001 |
Jeff, That car is a "show stopper" in any given situation. I don't think you have had the car long enough to truly have the passion. | ||
| William H (Countachxx)
Intermediate Member Username: Countachxx Post Number: 1613 Registered: 2-2001 |
She does attract a lot of attention & mine sounds great too with the tubi exhaust. A lot of people in the US have a hard time appreciating beautiful or expensive things or art probably that deep puritan streak, The 512TR is no puritan I think a lot of the problems you see are due to ignorance and jealousy. If they cant appreciate art skru them BTW put a TR in a straight line against any V8 including the 360 and say Bye bye to the V8 | ||
| Michael N. (Man90tr)
Member Username: Man90tr Post Number: 733 Registered: 4-2001 |
Jeff, Must be a Michigan thing. My TR in Wash DC drops jaws wherever I go. In fact, I think it draws too much attention for me a lot of the times, but damn everytime I look at it I saw -- f-ing beautiful. And that 12 cylinder sound, and that ripping speed from 90 to 135 in 4th gear. I look forward to owning mine as long as Coachi. Parts, haven't been a problem at all -- get another supplier. Expensive to upkeep -- well correct on that point. Enjoy the car a forgot what the people in MI say. Michael 1990TR | ||
| William H (Countachxx)
Intermediate Member Username: Countachxx Post Number: 1612 Registered: 2-2001 |
HAh those people are just jealous cus I blew them all off the road in my 512TR LOL | ||
| Bart McMurry (Mcmurb)
New member Username: Mcmurb Post Number: 13 Registered: 9-2002 |
I have related on another thread my experiences being lucky enough to have both a TR and 308QV. When visitors goto the garage to look at the cars and ask for the obilgatory ride, they always want a ride in the TR first. After, when we take the QV out, they always comment how different the two are - always walking away from the experience prefering the TR. As far as parts are concerned, I know what you mean. Nature of the beast i guess. Personally, when the TR is warmed up, and revving from 5-7K in 3rd, the feeling of all that torque pushing me makes me forget the costs. On the other hand, looking over the hood of the QV with those bulging fenders makes me glad I have both. | ||
| Dr. I. M. Ibrahim (Coachi)
Junior Member Username: Coachi Post Number: 144 Registered: 5-2002 |
I have owned an 86 TR since it was practically new and I paid a premium to buy it. I also have 4 other Ferraris that I love. I love my TR it is the most modern of the ferraris that I own and would drive it anywhere...it is the most comfortable, fast, easy to drive car compared to earlier models and compared to the boxer it replaced. I like it lines and it still turns heads. I even installed 288 GTO wheels on it and it makes the car look even more sexy. I wish I did not have to pay what I did for it, but it is stilla beauty. To Heck with those who don't think so. It is what I like.... | ||
| Jeff Green (Carguy)
Junior Member Username: Carguy Post Number: 60 Registered: 10-2002 |
Jscott makes a very good, and ironic point ! | ||
| Douglas A Hunt (Boxercrazy)
New member Username: Boxercrazy Post Number: 14 Registered: 11-2002 |
NO WAY,as in NO WAY....i think the tr's are great,and if i can convince myself that i can maintain one,then thats the car for me!!!!! super fast,great for just jumping in and going,what more could a car guy want? i just have to keep on saving :-( oh well thats just me enjoy your car douglas hunt | ||
| j scott leonard (Jscott)
Junior Member Username: Jscott Post Number: 233 Registered: 1-2002 |
One other thing that I learned a long time ago; If we only knew how seldom others think about us, we wouldn't worry so much about what they think! | ||
| Craig Dewey (Craigfl)
Member Username: Craigfl Post Number: 498 Registered: 1-2001 |
A TR will be my second Ferrari someday. It would have been the first but when you live in FL, the top must come off! Now for those cool & rainy days.... I want one as an extended experience from the 328 -- mid engine, pininfarina body. | ||
| j scott leonard (Jscott)
Junior Member Username: Jscott Post Number: 232 Registered: 1-2002 |
Everyone loves the Ferrari they select to own. You should love yours! I think TR's are radical and very cool cars. I would have one, but enjoy my 328 for its reliability. However, you just don't get the power in the 328 as you well know. As for me, all Ferraris deserve respect and appreciation. | ||
| Ernesto (T88power)
Member Username: T88power Post Number: 935 Registered: 2-2001 |
What's important is that YOU like it. Ernesto | ||
| Adam Goldman '86 TR (Icnsltmfg)
Member Username: Icnsltmfg Post Number: 487 Registered: 8-2001 |
I love mine. Yes parts are not cheap, but you can get them. The car is a great all around driver. Fast, comfortable, can be driven in the city, can be driven on the track. And it always get's looks. | ||
| TomD (Tifosi)
Intermediate Member Username: Tifosi Post Number: 1976 Registered: 9-2001 |
if you like who cares what others think. you better watch out as some might think you are not an enthusist | ||
| Jeff Green (Carguy)
Junior Member Username: Carguy Post Number: 59 Registered: 10-2002 |
I've had my TR for only a short time, but have made some observations I'd like to share. I feel that TR's get a bad rap from many different angles. One is "they made a zillion of 'em" ! Another is "...hate those cheese graters! " The cars suffer in the market place, why I don't know. Yes there are quite a few out there, but the cars have a lot of "presence". And that engine is wonderful. I've seen nice 328's sell for more dollars than a lot of TR's do. Not to malign the 328 cuz I love them too. It's just a bit humbling. And parts are terribly expensive. You'd think that with so many TR's out there, that good used parts as well as new ones would be available. But I find it the opposite....I run into 308/328/348 parts all the time, but hardly ever TR parts. I even buy TR parts I don't need just to have them, because it's so rare to run into them! I realize the styling is a "love it" or "hate it" thing. But I really get the impression that there is very little support/respect for TR's in general. I may be off base venting my comments here for all to read, but there must be something to it for me to publish my feelings. So if I deserve a thrashing, let me have it. How do you TR owners out there feel? |