| Author | Message | ||
| Paul Newman (Newman)
Member Username: Newman Post Number: 884 Registered: 12-2001 |
Well...a nice one then. I felt such a relief when I sold all my domestic stuff, parts and all. It was a load off my shoulders and I started with a clean slate. I know where Arlie is coming from but I say unload it and try something else, life is too short. | ||
| Bruno (Originalsinner)
Member Username: Originalsinner Post Number: 818 Registered: 5-2002 |
Dont see many Ferrari's with "nothing wrong with it" jk  | ||
| Horsefly (Arlie)
Member Username: Arlie Post Number: 529 Registered: 5-2002 |
Paul, your suggestions do have alot of merit. But since I have waded half way across the vintage Corvette river, I think that I will hang onto my Vette stuff. That doesn't mean I can't buy a Ferrari if I run across the right car. Of course it would have to be a beater project Ferrari to match the rest of my beater project Corvettes. | ||
| Paul Newman (Newman)
Member Username: Newman Post Number: 879 Registered: 12-2001 |
I think you should sell that pile of corvette crap (figure of speech) and buy a ferrari that has nothing wrong with it. When you grow tired, sell the f-car and by a running, complete injected vette if your heart desires. It cant be impossible to replace, I sold my 71 440-6 challenger, last one to roll off the line, last 6 pack car built, one of 25 with a shaker hood as well as my 68 hemi roadrunner. If I want another one, I can replace it. Im enjoying a ferrari rather than looking at a pile of vette parts for the last 20 years. JMHO. | ||
| Horsefly (Arlie)
Member Username: Arlie Post Number: 528 Registered: 5-2002 |
Can we rename this thread the "Tower of Babel"? In other words, it just keeps getting taller but it will never go anywhere or accomplish anything. (Sounds like some of my project cars.) | ||
| Paul Newman (Newman)
Member Username: Newman Post Number: 877 Registered: 12-2001 |
Do you think that one went over JRV's head ernesto? | ||
| Bruno (Originalsinner)
Member Username: Originalsinner Post Number: 812 Registered: 5-2002 |
Ah man u made me look.i though maybe Ed responded. | ||
| Greg Rodgers (Joechristmas)
Member Username: Joechristmas Post Number: 543 Registered: 3-2001 |
It wasn't that way at all. He was a very nice guy and was always willing to help. No matter how much experience you have a person can still learn and grow. The one who thinks they know it all is the true fool as they are unwilling to learn. | ||
| JRV (Jrvall)
Member Username: Jrvall Post Number: 402 Registered: 11-2002 |
Yea it's true, ED is the big winner, he gets to keep all his knowledge and experience, add to it occasionaly from some of real guys that post, if he chooses to continue reading along, while at the same time denying flamers & losers the benefit of his knowledge and experience. Sounds like a win win for ED and a loss for those sincere learners on FC.. | ||
| bruce wellington (Bws88tr)
Intermediate Member Username: Bws88tr Post Number: 1302 Registered: 4-2002 |
ernie i bet my list is bigger than yours  nice post jrv, want another meltdown?? | ||
| Ernesto (T88power)
Member Username: T88power Post Number: 945 Registered: 2-2001 |
We'd be glad to see some other folks be gone as well! ;-) | ||
| JRV (Jrvall)
Member Username: Jrvall Post Number: 401 Registered: 11-2002 |
I'd be willing to bet Ed is 10 times happier leaving a couple of you behind than you are glad to see him gone!!!! ;-) | ||
| Paul Newman (Newman)
Member Username: Newman Post Number: 880 Registered: 12-2001 |
sniff, sniff | ||
| Ernesto (T88power)
Member Username: T88power Post Number: 951 Registered: 2-2001 |
not me... Ernesto | ||
| bruce wellington (Bws88tr)
Intermediate Member Username: Bws88tr Post Number: 1310 Registered: 4-2002 |
recap...about 2 weeks gone, still no tears for me, any body else need a box of kleenex?? | ||
| Tim N (Timn88)
Intermediate Member Username: Timn88 Post Number: 1738 Registered: 6-2001 |
Arlie, they get hardly anything for their training. They cant get paid to compete (in mst sports) otherwise they arent amateurs anymore nd arent eligible. When my dad was training he haad to work a job too, which cut into training time. At the time other countries such as russia supported their athletes, so they trained more and did better. Its a central issue in the movie "Prefontaine". | ||
| Tim N (Timn88)
Intermediate Member Username: Timn88 Post Number: 1737 Registered: 6-2001 |
bruce, i was kidding. i know you are a nice guy, but you dont tolerate crap. | ||
| John A (Jarends)
Junior Member Username: Jarends Post Number: 179 Registered: 7-2001 |
Speaking of Women, do you know why men like women in leather??? Because they smell like a new car. | ||
| Andrew (Mrrou)
Member Username: Mrrou Post Number: 440 Registered: 3-2002 |
thats twisted jerry. lol | ||
| Kelly (Tifosi1)
Member Username: Tifosi1 Post Number: 517 Registered: 2-2002 |
Guys where is your repect??? He's helping George choose targets. | ||
| magoo (Magoo)
Advanced Member Username: Magoo Post Number: 3758 Registered: 2-2001 |
Speaking of dogs. Do you guys know why God made mans brain bigger than a dogs brain? So he wouldn't hump womens legs at a cocktail party. | ||
| BobD (Bobd)
Member Username: Bobd Post Number: 833 Registered: 3-2001 |
Exactly Jerry. He stops humping and loses interest due to the fact he's shooting blanks.... it becomes part of his past. | ||
| Jerry W. (Tork1966)
Member Username: Tork1966 Post Number: 318 Registered: 7-2001 |
Kind of like when your dog gets his gonads cut off....he stops humping your leg. | ||
| BobD (Bobd)
Member Username: Bobd Post Number: 832 Registered: 3-2001 |
A lot of us will miss Ed's wit and expertise. I'd bet there are a lot of people who have sold their F-cars and no longer participate on FC. Think about something you've enjoyed then gave up or sold. Eventually the interest fades away. Ed now has new interests of his own and his Ferrari passion is part of his past... it's history. It's very normal, it happens. It will eventually happen to most of you too some day. | ||
| magoo (Magoo)
Advanced Member Username: Magoo Post Number: 3747 Registered: 2-2001 |
I think the Dr. just said it all. By Ed's statement he indicates he won't be back so The F.C. moves on....... | ||
| magoo (Magoo)
Advanced Member Username: Magoo Post Number: 3746 Registered: 2-2001 |
I like the statement "it's best understood as simply a personal thing." | ||
| Dr. I. M. Ibrahim (Coachi)
Junior Member Username: Coachi Post Number: 154 Registered: 5-2002 |
wow, what a reaction...he in my opinion was quite knowledgeable and quite opinionated. He and I spoke many times and emailed also. I will miss his expert advice...but i too agree that this is a Ferrari site, and Ed himself told me: "I don't own a Ferrari anymore, and I don't need to be chatting on a Ferrari site." | ||
| KCCK (Kenneth)
Junior Member Username: Kenneth Post Number: 98 Registered: 10-2002 |
Of all the athletes vying for the jackpot around the world, there is only one gold medal to be won for that particular sport. What about the ones that have tried so hard, and failed so close? But alas, that is what champions are all about. | ||
| Horsefly (Arlie)
Member Username: Arlie Post Number: 477 Registered: 5-2002 |
"An Olympic Gold Medal may be won only by a difference of a fraction of a second. But it may represent the dedicated endeavours of a enormously talented person throughout his/her entire lifetime." Unfortunately, that dedicated Olympic endeavour is usually paid for by somebody else. Ever wonder how those Olympic athletes can afford to train 6 or 8 hours or more each day on their "sport"? Hey, who pays for their rent, food, and utility bills that the rest of us have to WORK for? Being an Olympic athlete sounds like a great gig. Get somebody to pay your way to a training camp funded by somebody besides yourself so that you don't actually have to work. Then, after winning a gold medal, you can make millions of dollars on endorsements. And never have to punch a time clock to earn your own money. I wish that somebody would pay for me to get to my dedicated endevour.....a new or slightly used Ferrari (or other appropriate high dollar sports car.) | ||
| JRV (Jrvall)
Member Username: Jrvall Post Number: 363 Registered: 11-2002 |
>>>For life at the top, to try to excel your peers, even by only the slightest margin, can cost you the earth. The principle of "disproportionate return" prevails at this level. An Olympic Gold Medal may be won only by a difference of a fraction of a second. But it may represent the dedicated endeavours of a enormously talented person throughout his/her entire lifetime. << So True...So True....and it's unfair to oneself to expect others to understand the quest ..it's best understood as simply a personal thing. | ||
| Bruno (Originalsinner)
Member Username: Originalsinner Post Number: 794 Registered: 5-2002 |
Very good. KCCK. | ||
| KCCK (Kenneth)
Junior Member Username: Kenneth Post Number: 93 Registered: 10-2002 |
Yes, perhaps a Corvette does give more "bang for the buck" than a Ferrari. But there are also other areas in which a Ferrari's sheer class would still come through with full colours. For life at the top, to try to excel your peers, even by only the slightest margin, can cost you the earth. The principle of "disproportionate return" prevails at this level. An Olympic Gold Medal may be won only by a difference of a fraction of a second. But it may represent the dedicated endeavours of a enormously talented person throughout his/her entire lifetime. Oh,sorry, I have digressed. | ||
| Bruno (Originalsinner)
Member Username: Originalsinner Post Number: 793 Registered: 5-2002 |
I met Bruce this summer and he seems like a stand up guy to me that tells it like it is. And he's a Ferrari guy. | ||
| Bruno (Originalsinner)
Member Username: Originalsinner Post Number: 792 Registered: 5-2002 |
Wow,I hope I cause this much trouble if I leave the site. There is something to say about his opinion of Ferrari's. I believe one of his quotes were "I would love them if I had an infinite amount of time and money". Well I guess he didnt have either. I knew Ed through Email a little and can see his side of the Corvette issue. It is by far a considerable better bang for the buck than a Ferrari. But it is not a FERRARI. It is a chevy. And this is a Ferrari site. | ||
| bruce wellington (Bws88tr)
Intermediate Member Username: Bws88tr Post Number: 1268 Registered: 4-2002 |
tim i dont need to get my fix on anyone, as you meet me this summer, and know im a stand up guy and speak my peace, the same as paul.. When someone comes on here with a arrogant,abrasive tone, i might say something or choose to stay back.In the matter of ed gault, i found him to be that, his tech info was superb, but his manorism sucked, so i am in agreement with paul newman,,no kleenex for me.... | ||
| magoo (Magoo)
Advanced Member Username: Magoo Post Number: 3744 Registered: 2-2001 |
I agree Paul. I would say he won't be back so let the chips fall, where they may..... | ||
| Paul Newman (Newman)
Member Username: Newman Post Number: 809 Registered: 12-2001 |
Im not bent out of shape about Ed or anyone on the site for that matter. Im just expressing my opinion regarding the content of his latest posts. I dont care if he comes back or stays away. Im indifferent, just speaking my mind rather than biting my tounge. | ||
| Tim N (Timn88)
Intermediate Member Username: Timn88 Post Number: 1721 Registered: 6-2001 |
Bruce needs someone to get his fix of antagonizing on. Ed isnt a bad guy, niether are you. i suspect differing opinions are to blame. I think you actually like him. after hating someone for a while, some people start to like each other, | ||
| magoo (Magoo)
Advanced Member Username: Magoo Post Number: 3736 Registered: 2-2001 |
Cmon Paul, Give it a break. There were people who liked him and there were people who didn't. I can remember Ed was on the F.C. just when I first came on and he made the comment when I was talking about working on my 308 that it was a hell of a engine for a beginner to start learning on. Now he didn't know who I was or what experience I had. I have been working on cars for a lotta years overhauling engines to tuning them. Also worked as a Mech. for a while, but I certainly am not as accomplished as You or Ed and some of the other guys here on the F.C.. I didn't get all bent out of shape because I knew this was this guys way of expressing himself. So accept him or reject him and let it go at that. Regards | ||
| Ernesto (T88power)
Member Username: T88power Post Number: 939 Registered: 2-2001 |
Although I disagreed BIG TIME with Ed regarding the C5's virtues, I found his comments humorous and entertaining. And, he was undeniably, for good or bad, a big part of ferrarichat. Because of this, I will miss his posts. But, I won't need to rush out to Walgreen's to buy a box of Kleenex anytime soon. Ernesto | ||
| Paul Newman (Newman)
Member Username: Newman Post Number: 806 Registered: 12-2001 |
The kleenex was for you guys that long for his return. | ||
| Tyler (Bahiaau)
Member Username: Bahiaau Post Number: 420 Registered: 12-2001 |
I never minded Ed's comments and I liked his dry sense of humor. His technical advice was always good and many of his comments(while they may seemed blasphemous for those of us who worship Enzo) were accurate. I liked his take it or leave it approach. | ||
| magoo (Magoo)
Advanced Member Username: Magoo Post Number: 3734 Registered: 2-2001 |
Paul, Don't pull out the Kleenex, Just look at it this way. Some of the guys who have been on the F.C. loooooong before you ever came here knew Ed and never had a problem with him. Everybody has a right to their opinion of a car. Also maybe you were one of those people who never really knew Ed Gault. Just like it has been said many times before on this F.C. don't be so sensitive about what the other guy says. In other words don't let it get to you. Regards. | ||
| Horsefly (Arlie)
Member Username: Arlie Post Number: 472 Registered: 5-2002 |
OK let's just pull out all the stops and start a great BIG rumor. Ed and Nika ran off together. Ed had to sell his 308 because two Ferraris were too much for their budget. All those timing belt replacements add up. If this doesn't bring them back from their "lurking" status, nothing will! | ||
| Paul Newman (Newman)
Member Username: Newman Post Number: 805 Registered: 12-2001 |
Someone pass the kleenex. Well magoo, lets call a spade a spade. What I never really liked was for example if you had a problem with and oil leak he might say...replace this and that...blah blah blah, oh and by the way my corvette is better than any ferrari on the planet. I personally got tired of the insertion of "corvettes are king" on most threads he participated in. "I sold my piece of crap 308 because a c5 is better", so what. Its tiring to hear corvette this corvette that on a ferrari site. Maybe he's staying away because he was being honest by saying he thought ferraris were overpriced, low quality cars that cant hold a candle to a c5. | ||
| magoo (Magoo)
Advanced Member Username: Magoo Post Number: 3729 Registered: 2-2001 |
I think one of the biggest problems was that many misunderstood Ed. He had a humor that was dry but clever and would sometimes leave you hanging. He really was a honest person who said what he thought and if it was the truth he thought that every one else should accept it. Sometimes not very diplomatic but always honest in his opinion. Some times ya gotta accept a person for the way they really are because doing that you may learn who that person is and what they are all about later on. | ||
| David Jones (Dave)
Member Username: Dave Post Number: 467 Registered: 4-2001 |
If I remember right Ed has a home in Florida he heads to during his off time and doesn't get to a computer much when he's there... That may be the case. | ||
| Bruno (Originalsinner)
Member Username: Originalsinner Post Number: 791 Registered: 5-2002 |
Is he lurking? Let's see. Corvettes SUCK.Especially the C5.Just another chevy. | ||
| Tyler (Bahiaau)
Member Username: Bahiaau Post Number: 416 Registered: 12-2001 |
I'll miss Ed, he was a great asset to this board. | ||
| TomD (Tifosi)
Intermediate Member Username: Tifosi Post Number: 1992 Registered: 9-2001 |
sorry to hear this, something tells me Ed is still lurking on this site though. hopefully. his input will be missed | ||
| Rob Lay (Rob328gts)
Board Administrator Username: Rob328gts Post Number: 2938 Registered: 12-2000 |
I had the pleasure to met Ed and his wife at Indy this year. Both were just great, I'm sorry I didn't get a chance to spend more time with them. In person he comes across as the quiet master meditating on top of a mountain. You ask him "What's an acceptable tolerance for the main bearings?" and his response would be "ahh Grasshopper, does the wind blow South? do the trees have all their leaves? and if you talk about car wax again I'm going to..." I think he was a great guy and his technical knowledge will be very much missed. Best wishes to Ed. | ||
| Matt Lemus (Mlemus)
Member Username: Mlemus Post Number: 910 Registered: 8-2002 |
Sad day. He will be missed | ||
| Dr. I. M. Ibrahim (Coachi)
Junior Member Username: Coachi Post Number: 152 Registered: 5-2002 |
well, i got in touch with Ed via email; he said he no longer owns a ferrari and no longer wants to work on them, so he has decided not to chat on a Ferrari site any more. It appears that some parts dealers were not fair with him when he was working on one of my cars, and he decided that he did not have the space to store my car while he was working on it and waiting for parts. He is an excellent mechanic, but is hard to understand sometimes. I thought he did terrific work, paid him cash at the time the car was fixed and complimented him thoroughly for being one of the best. He never ripped me off...was always honest and fair. That is Ed. I for one will miss him. | ||
| Lawrence Coppari (Lawrence)
Member Username: Lawrence Post Number: 418 Registered: 4-2002 |
Bret is right. People seem to blur the years with their comparisons. You cannot compare a 308 or a 328 to a modern Corvette. But, in 1987 when my 328 was built, there was not too much that would outrun it (930 turbo, Lotus turbo, and 944 turbo S come to mind. A 1987 Corvette gets spanked by a 328/308 series Ferrari. | ||
| BretM (Bretm)
Advanced Member Username: Bretm Post Number: 3031 Registered: 2-2001 |
Ed's awesome, hands down a cool guy in my book. He definitely is a very good mechanic which is not something you find on every street corner. Plus, if you took his anti-Ferrari comments with a grain of salt, they were hilarious. Not for nothing, but a stock 308 can't hold a candle to a stock C5 Vette in any category other than flair and wow-factor. True, it is somewhat more of an intimate car, but that's pretty much all it has on the Vette driving wise. How could it keep up with a Vette? It's 25 years older and in between the two came arguably the largest change in automobiles since pneumatic tires, the vast implementation of computers. I still love my 308 (I'll love it even more when it's faster...), but from a rational point of view it loses. If you compare a 308 to the Vette of the time though, the 308 massacres anything GM was producing (5.7L 180hp Corvette ... it's downright comical). | ||
| Mitchell Le (Yelcab1)
Member Username: Yelcab1 Post Number: 470 Registered: 11-2001 |
I respect Ed for his help on Ferrari throughout my rebuild. Could have gotten really stuck without his help. He has the right to be partial to his C5. I don't own a Corvette, and don't want to own one. I just let his C5 comments roll right over my head. | ||
| Patrick (Patrickr)
Junior Member Username: Patrickr Post Number: 77 Registered: 4-2002 |
Nothing wrong with being passionate about a car, right Ernesto? If Ed was a jerk about his C5, then sarcasm is fine. If not, let's be civilized. Patrick | ||
| bruce wellington (Bws88tr)
Intermediate Member Username: Bws88tr Post Number: 1253 Registered: 4-2002 |
ernesto lol, good post, thats ed for ya bruce | ||
| Dr. I. M. Ibrahim (Coachi)
Junior Member Username: Coachi Post Number: 147 Registered: 5-2002 |
I live some 60 miles away from Ed Gault, and he has worked on my 512 BBi, my 308 andmy Daytona in the last three or four months. I just retrieved my Daytona from him a short while ago. He is very good, does great work, is very reasonable, and tells it like it is. If you would like, I'll look him up on Monday and give him a call then post. Sure he likes his vette... I have a ZR-1 that i like too.... but of course I am extremely partial to Ferraris... | ||
| Ernesto (T88power)
Member Username: T88power Post Number: 936 Registered: 2-2001 |
He is probably in the www.c5chat.com forum talking about how Ferraris suck, are overpriced, and you are only paying for the name - and how he traded his Ferrari for a superior C5 Vette. Ernesto | ||
| bruce wellington (Bws88tr)
Intermediate Member Username: Bws88tr Post Number: 1250 Registered: 4-2002 |
YES ROB, HE IS VALUABLE WITH HIS KNOWLEDGE, I AGREE, BUT THE REST OF HIS STYLE I DONT AGREE.. BRUCE | ||
| bruce wellington (Bws88tr)
Intermediate Member Username: Bws88tr Post Number: 1249 Registered: 4-2002 |
NAH PAULIE I SURELY MISS HIM THOUGH.... I JUST GOT HOME FROM DINNER , MET TODD GEIGER AND FAMILY, I SEE YOUR TORONTO THREAD SPEAD TO 2 THREADS...YOU CANADIENS ARE OK... BRUCIE | ||
| Rob Lay (Rob328gts)
Board Administrator Username: Rob328gts Post Number: 2908 Registered: 12-2000 |
Ed is a big reason this board is so valuable, he's easily missed. I bet he's out driving the C5. | ||
| Paul Newman (Newman)
Member Username: Newman Post Number: 781 Registered: 12-2001 |
I sense some sarcasm. You wouldnt be trying to stir things up would you Brucie? | ||
| bruce wellington (Bws88tr)
Intermediate Member Username: Bws88tr Post Number: 1247 Registered: 4-2002 |
ONE OF MY "FAVORITE" POSTERS HERE..HAVENT SEEN HIM FOR WEEKS, HOPE HES OK, ANYBODY ADD TO THIS... BRUCE |