| Author | Message | ||
| John Ames (Ameshouse)
Junior Member Username: Ameshouse Post Number: 79 Registered: 1-2002 |
I guess he's at least smart enough to realize that he can be traced through his email response. He just hopes someone is stupid enough to send him money with no questions asked... | ||
| Matt Lemus (Mlemus)
Member Username: Mlemus Post Number: 937 Registered: 8-2002 |
I never did get the vin | ||
| Raleigh Smith (288gto)
Junior Member Username: 288gto Post Number: 60 Registered: 10-2002 |
I emailed the guy yesterday and told him to post a picture of his car. I also told him that next time he wanted to do something this dumb not to take a picture from a listing that was only 3 ahead of his. No word from him yet. | ||
| Joseph (Mojo)
Junior Member Username: Mojo Post Number: 161 Registered: 9-2002 |
Martin You the man!! | ||
| Howie/ExoticAutoBrokers.com (Brokerofexotics)
Member Username: Brokerofexotics Post Number: 295 Registered: 11-2001 |
.....however, the auction for the Lamborghini Murcielago is still going....http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1874517493&category=6290 | ||
| Martin - Cavallino Motors (Miami348ts)
Advanced Member Username: Miami348ts Post Number: 3444 Registered: 5-2001 |
Somebody must have called them and they got in touch with e-Bay. Also proves that the this guy is not the owner, thus not authorized to offer this car, and the car in the pictures is not the car this guy has/dreams of having. This is what e-Bay sent me, so they do get on somebody's case if they do these things: Dear Martin wiescholek ([email protected]), The following listing: 1874520021 - Ferrari : 355 Berlinetta was ended early by eBay for a listing violation. A Verified Rights Owner, such as a copyright, trademark, or patent owner, notified eBay that the item or material contained in the listing infringes its intellectual property rights. eBay takes no position on the authenticity or authorized nature of such items, but we take appropriate action when requested by a Verified Rights Owner. Since the listing was ended early, you as a bidder are not required to complete the transaction. Sellers that feel their listings may have been ended in error have the opportunity to get in touch with the relevant person or company or contact eBay. | ||
| stu cordova (Balataboy)
Member Username: Balataboy Post Number: 312 Registered: 4-2001 |
His 355 auction is gone! Hey, maybe Martin won it?? Martin - good for you!!!! | ||
| Kevin Butler (Challenge)
New member Username: Challenge Post Number: 37 Registered: 9-2002 |
DES, I hear you...but doesn't Ebay do an autorization to validate the credit card as well as some sort of NOW account verification? I know, I know. They probably stole all that from someone else. | ||
| John Ames (Ameshouse)
Junior Member Username: Ameshouse Post Number: 78 Registered: 1-2002 |
I was wondering the same thing. Ebay says that you must provide a VIN number as well, but none of his listings show a VIN... Double standard for crooks and honest vendors I guess... | ||
| DES (Sickspeed)
Junior Member Username: Sickspeed Post Number: 115 Registered: 8-2002 |
Kev... All the info they enter is just as fake as the sale they're conducting (or trying to conduct...) | ||
| Kevin Butler (Challenge)
New member Username: Challenge Post Number: 36 Registered: 9-2002 |
I must be missing something. When I joined Ebay, they required my credit card #, checking account #, address, phone, etc, etc, etc. I was a little reluctant to give out all this info, but I did. How can guys like this hide? If I tried this BS, FBI, FTC, AG, and local police would be knocking on my door in 15 minutes. | ||
| Jeff (Jeff_m)
New member Username: Jeff_m Post Number: 31 Registered: 9-2002 |
I think this is the same guy that had the f50, f40, lambo diablo for half price on ebay last month with another lame excuse of having to leave the country. Ebay pulled it after 2 days. Like a dealer wouldn't be willing to pay these prices in cash for all these cars without the ebay hassle. Anyone that would wire this money and then wait the 48 hrs for his car to be shipped deserves what he will get!! | ||
| Matt Lemus (Mlemus)
Member Username: Mlemus Post Number: 889 Registered: 8-2002 |
They are closed. They open @ 9:00 Phone number is 503.297.5000 | ||
| John Ames (Ameshouse)
Junior Member Username: Ameshouse Post Number: 76 Registered: 1-2002 |
It looks like Northwest Investment Cars is also selling this car on eBay. http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=6212&item=1874110273 I emailed them yesterday, but haven't heard anything back from them... | ||
| Matt Lemus (Mlemus)
Member Username: Mlemus Post Number: 888 Registered: 8-2002 |
I am calling them now. | ||
| Martin - Cavallino Motors (Miami348ts)
Advanced Member Username: Miami348ts Post Number: 3437 Registered: 5-2001 |
Who knows somebody at NW Investment Cars and can ask if the owner of that car is from Indy? | ||
| Matt Lemus (Mlemus)
Member Username: Mlemus Post Number: 886 Registered: 8-2002 |
I liked the "Anyone that has the winning bid, and does not submit payment will be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law." statement A bit ironic huh? | ||
| Jim Schad (Jim_schad)
Member Username: Jim_schad Post Number: 546 Registered: 7-2002 |
I just sent him a note bitching him out. No way he is in Indianapolis and his 355 is in Oregon and his lambo is a stolen pic. Again if you read all his posts he is trying way to hard to sound legit and his sentence structure sounds like a kids' writing to me. If you can afford $500K in cars there is no way you would have a fire sale like that when I am sure any dealer would pay you half your cars value. | ||
| Jamil Jamal (Jameel)
New member Username: Jameel Post Number: 4 Registered: 9-2002 |
Well it's totally possible the divorce came up all of a sudden, or he�s allowing the dealership to sell the F355. But what makes me suspicious is why sell the Lambo for less than half the price ($115,000) when it's practically brand new. The car goes for around $273,000 from the dealer? Even if he�s in a bind to sell it, he can post it for $200,000 and it would still get snatched up in no time! | ||
| John Ames (Ameshouse)
Junior Member Username: Ameshouse Post Number: 74 Registered: 1-2002 |
I attempted to notify eBay last night, however there doesn't seem to be a straight forward way of doing that. I used their "stolen property" reporting form. I guess we will see if it did any good. | ||
| Martin - Cavallino Motors (Miami348ts)
Advanced Member Username: Miami348ts Post Number: 3435 Registered: 5-2001 |
...and I was outbid within seconds...now that smells fishy! | ||
| Martin - Cavallino Motors (Miami348ts)
Advanced Member Username: Miami348ts Post Number: 3434 Registered: 5-2001 |
I bid on the 355 and if I win the bid I will fly out to see the car, the title and take both home. Why not, just have to do it right. You don't buy a home without seeing it, why buy a car for that kind of money and not see it? | ||
| yasir saifullah (Yasir)
New member Username: Yasir Post Number: 14 Registered: 7-2002 |
Did you guys noticed the mileage on both Lambo & the GT-2 ! How could you just buy two new cars and not realizing you are heading the divorce route,hmmm ! Later, Yasir | ||
| Michael Davidson (Cabrio_fan)
New member Username: Cabrio_fan Post Number: 18 Registered: 3-2002 |
I can vouch for the 355's location. I was at Northwest Investment Cars yesterday afternoon. That car is 15 feet inside the front door. Hmmmm..... Interesting. | ||
| Joseph (Mojo)
Junior Member Username: Mojo Post Number: 151 Registered: 9-2002 |
You guys make great detectives, you should start your own agency. Like magnum F.I. (ferrari investigator) | ||
| D B (Threesixty)
Junior Member Username: Threesixty Post Number: 102 Registered: 8-2002 |
That Lambo was on EBay a while ago as well, but not the same guy. | ||
| John Ames (Ameshouse)
Junior Member Username: Ameshouse Post Number: 73 Registered: 1-2002 |
I am not sure how to get in touch with ebay, but I did send the link to Northwest Investment Cars. They should enjoy the fact that someone is helping them sell their cars... | ||
| Matt Lemus (Mlemus)
Member Username: Mlemus Post Number: 873 Registered: 8-2002 |
That's the pic. Has anyone contaced ebay? | ||
| John Ames (Ameshouse)
Junior Member Username: Ameshouse Post Number: 72 Registered: 1-2002 |
Look Familiar??? This picture was just downloaded from Nortwest Investment Cars in Portland. It is in their current inventory...  | ||
| j scott leonard (Jscott)
Junior Member Username: Jscott Post Number: 235 Registered: 1-2002 |
Matt: Looks like the 355 that was for sale in Oregon. I think you are right. | ||
| Matt Lemus (Mlemus)
Member Username: Mlemus Post Number: 867 Registered: 8-2002 |
I asked for the Vin on the 355. I'll post what I get. | ||
| Jon P. Kofod (95f355c)
Member Username: 95f355c Post Number: 320 Registered: 8-2001 |
Just ask him for the VIN #'s and then do a carfax. That take care of it! Jon | ||
| Jim Schad (Jim_schad)
Member Username: Jim_schad Post Number: 534 Registered: 7-2002 |
I think his wording in the add sounds very juvenile. And I have seen that 355 pic as of last week with a different seller I think. Come to think of it, wasn't that the one you were looking at J.Scott? | ||
| Matt Lemus (Mlemus)
Member Username: Mlemus Post Number: 865 Registered: 8-2002 |
The pic's of the lambo are from a car mag. the 355 is in a showroom the 911 is from a car webite.. how do you spell x-mas F.R.A.U.D. | ||
| Matt Lemus (Mlemus)
Member Username: Mlemus Post Number: 864 Registered: 8-2002 |
You know what.....I smell a bad fish. The pic's seem to be of suspecios origin. TBC | ||
| Matt Lemus (Mlemus)
Member Username: Mlemus Post Number: 863 Registered: 8-2002 |
Poor Guy, He is also dropping his 355 and 911. 35K on a 355. that's a deal http://cgi6.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewSellersOtherItems&userid=dbane51 | ||
| j scott leonard (Jscott)
Junior Member Username: Jscott Post Number: 234 Registered: 1-2002 |
Check out the owner's notes. http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1874517493&category=6290 |