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| '75 308 GT4 (Peter)
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Tool boxes at work... Any one of my co-workers are welcome to my tools. I was for the longest time the only one who had a 90°angle air-drill there, so many borrowed it. I let them use mine and they let me use theirs (I still need to get myself an air-powered screwdriver), I never had one of my tools broken or stolen. | ||
| ANGELO ALBANESE (Lbanez)
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wow....this message is still going,I sell quite a few things on ebay, I sure get a few deadbeats...that don't pay, I give them neg feedback all the time!!, to date I have none,I always describe my items as they are or your money back if you are not happy, post office lost one parcel to a guy in the States, I had it insured and gave him back more than he paid me for his troubles, still not convinced he didn't recieve it, but if you want to lower your standards to a cheat, I'll give it to you and take my loss !!!! I have the same standards at work with my tool box, I have thousands worth of tools, always leave it open....help yourself, put it back when your done, if you can't afford to buy one and you really want it , just ask me I'll give it to you...steal it ? don't even go there...it's worked well for the last 14 years | ||
| James H. (Jamesh)
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I have had more good than bad experience with E bay. I now try to only bid on items I can pay with a credit card so I can have the credit company help resolve disputes. Peter, if you have not call your credit company to dispute the charges, you should do so right away. The credit companies have a 60 day deadling to file and unfortunately they have to stick with that deadline. | ||
| Herbert Edward Gault (Irfgt)
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I recently purchased two Ferrari items on EBAY. One a 180 MPH speedometer and a set of new pistons with rings. The Speedometer which was advertised in excellent condition did not work. He sent me another that did not work and offered me a refund. The pistons were new but the rings were only a partial set with all the oil rings either broken or missing. He too offered a refund. While I still got something that was worth what I gave for it, I sure did not get what was advertised and understood I was getting. | ||
| Sandra Cairncross (Sandrac)
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Peter, Sorry to hear about that, but you can give him one more chance by telling him if he doesn't credit your Paypal acct by the end of the week, you WILL report him and file a fraud report thru Ebay. It can be done and Ebay will stand behind you. You can also tell Paypal and possibly get them to reverse the charge. Let us know how it turns out. | ||
| Christiank (Christiank)
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Recently I bought some stronger shocks for my Jeep on ebay. I paid for 5 day shipping via USPS. It took almost 4 weeks. I thought that the guy was overcharging me for shipping and sending it by snale post but he didn't. It really can take that long sometimes. | ||
| Lawrence Michaels (Lxmichaels1)
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I got this on ebay. Won it on a Thursday and it was here the following Monday.  Ain't it cute? It's a 1962 Matchbox Ferrari F1 car >> Larry | ||
| Lawrence Michaels (Lxmichaels1)
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I got this on ebay. Won it on a Thursday and it was here the following Monday. /image{Lesney#73 Ain't it cute? It's a 1962 Matchbox Ferrari F1 car >> Larry | ||
| Don Norton (Litig8r)
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I think you should be able to request that your credit card co. do a chargeback? That should fix the problem. | ||
| Frederick Thomas (Fred)
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No way should it take that long. You could send it by pony express and get it faster than that. I would tell him you want your money sent back right now and not stop calling untill you get it. | ||
| Peter Boray (Gts308qv)
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Well, I am currently dealing with a possible fraud case now. Bought a "lane" diecast model for $201 and paid via PayPal on 7/20. Still no model after approx one month. He does not seem to be able to find the receipt from the post office and is vague about when he actually posted it. He says somewhere around August 1. Does it take over 20 days for a parcel to go from MI to CA ? What do I do now guys ?! | ||
| Andrew Chapman (Xx7xx)
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I have a problem with high bidders who never send payment after the auction is over. I sell about 5-10 items per month on ebay, mostly video games. About 2-3 people per month dont pay me. It is such a pain in the ass to get your money back from e-bay, i dont even bother. I have tried 3 times to sell cars on e-bay. Never has the high bidder payed me. This is a complete waste of money. | ||
| Warren E. Smith (Magoo)
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I THINK IT'S OVER. SOMETIMES PERSONALTIES GET INVOLVED AND THINGS ARE SAID. THIS IS A GOOD SITE FOR THOSE OF US WHO OWN FERRARIS AND WE CAN SHARE OUR ENTHUSIASMS AND OUR TECH. PROBLEMS WITH EACH OTHER. AND YES, WE SHOULD KEEP IT THAT WAY. AFTER ALL WHAT MORE COULD BE SAID? MAGOO | ||
| martin J weiner,M.D. (Mw360)
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AGREE WITH KH.THIS VERY USEFUL FERRARI FORUM SOMETIMES GETS DILUTED AND SILLY WITH "OTHER ISSUES".IT'S GREAT TO HAVE FUN BUT LET'S KEEP FOCUSED WITHOUT PERSONALIZING. | ||
| KH (H00kem)
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Isn't this a Ferrari chat site gang?...if you have some other topic to discuss, like careers and ripoffs, please move to Yahoo. I would hate to see Ferrari Chat become just another mindless chat room. There is a wealth of Ferrari knowledge on this channel thanks to guys like Warren & Rob etc., and I would hate to run it off! | ||
| Don Norton (Litig8r)
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Hmmmm....interesting. Seems like people here don't like blanket criticisms of professions. I think I proved my point. | ||
| Herbert Edward Gault (Irfgt)
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Every profession has some bad apples and unfortunately you hear more about them than the good ones. Every profession also has a stereotype that is not necessarily true but is fortified with some facts. Most professionals are, and should be, defensive of their trade and should strive to weed out, or convert, the offensive ones so that these stereotypes no longer exist. Having said that, has anyone heard any good Blonde Jokes lately? See what I mean. | ||
| Peter Boray (Gts308qv)
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Don, if it wasn't for teachers you would be an ignorant fool. Thanks to teachers, you are an ignorant fool with a profession ! | ||
| Frederick Thomas (Fred)
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Don't attorneys learn their profession from teachers? I know they are called professors but a professor is a teacher. | ||
| '75 308 GT4 (Peter)
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A teacher being a glorified babysitter... ouch! That's a shot below the belt! You know you don't mean to say something like that. Teachers have the toughest job and they're not as appreciated as they should be. My neighbor who helped me lift out and install my motor is a high school teacher, he has told me many stories of his "usual" day. Wow! I give him all the credit in the world. We all had one or more teachers in our schooling days that made an impression on us all. They would've been the one to point us to where we wanted to go in our lives. I know Don you had this, think of that. PS: My sister is a lawyer for the Department of Justice, Government of Canada. She handles cases for DIAND (Dept of Indian and Northern Affairs). She is the nicest and most wonderful person there is. | ||
| Don Norton (Litig8r)
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I didn't assume you meant all attorneys. You referred to him being an attorney as a "so-called profession". It's not a so-called profession missy, it's an honest to goodness profession, unlike being a "teacher", which is really just a glorified babysitter. | ||
| Herbert Edward Gault (Irfgt)
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Since all the big money has infiltrated the NFL and pro Baseball I have lost interest as they are just Millionaire crybabies who will strike in a second. Give me Formula 1 where they just work for the love of the sport. Just kidding! I never did like Basketball either. College Football is the only stick and ball sport that I care for. | ||
| KH (H00kem)
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Don, there you go again....clean it up bud and act like an adult...your reflecting poorly on our profession. | ||
| Sandra Cairncross (Sandrac)
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KH, What did his profession have to do with his being dishonest...nothing! But, he was using his profession to his advantage. I mean, a registered letter from an attorney's office threatening me with a slander suit after I send him an email simply stating that I was dissatisfied with the item and his deceptive description. Obviously that would dissuade some people from persuing it further. If Don had the sense to be objective as opposed to assuming I meant ALL attorneys, then that's his problem...I never insult a group based on an individual's actions. Thanks for returning the supposed insult Don, calling me a numbskull....how mature of you. I agree, let's drop the tread but I'm afraid I don't follow football guys  | ||
| Frederick Thomas (Fred)
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So.... anybody excited that the NFL starts today? | ||
| Don Norton (Litig8r)
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My language has nothing to do with my profession. But if some numbskull insults my profession and me, that's what they'll get. Anyone who doesn't like it can kiss my ass. | ||
| Warren E. Smith (Magoo)
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Hook em, You are correct this subject should be retired. But when I heard what happened to Sandra it was only right to show that the sword cuts both ways. I rest my case. End of discussion. | ||
| KH (H00kem)
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Warren, why did you have to bring up the story about the guy who was selling the wrecked car without telling prospective buyers that it had been wrecked? Let's start that string again, it was a great tribute to honest people! Sandra, thanks for speaking up about one dishonest individual although I am not sure what his profession had to do with it. Don, your language doesn't represent your profession all that well....or maybe it does? | ||
| Don Norton (Litig8r)
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To everyone who thinks it's OK to insult a person's profession you can all screw off. I think it's a disgrace to be that insensitive. | ||
| Warren E. Smith (Magoo)
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Exactly David, Attorneys have a respected position in our society. The person who owes the apology is the fraternity brother who defrauded Sandra. What has to be realized is that a person in the law profession can defraud as well as the average guy. There was a lengthy discussion on a 308 being sold on ebay. The person selling the car was debased and ridiculed on hear say and ruined his chances of selling the car. When the shoe is on the other foot it doesn't fit so well. The attorney who ripped off Sandra was definetly wrong and the guy who was selling his car on ebay was tried and convicted on this chat line without proof. Sometimes the truth hurts when it is one of your own. Admit that you could be wrong and go on from there. | ||
| David Harris (Dakharris)
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Hey, I'm married to an attorney. They aren't all bad. I sell insurance. Please don't start a thread on that line of work! There are good ones and bad ones in any group, including Ferrari owners, E-Bayers, lawyers and insurance salesmen. Let's just recognize that fact. | ||
| Sandra Cairncross (Sandrac)
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Thank you Dave, Dina and Magoo....I don't owe anyone an apology. My statements pertained only to the single individual who defrauded me...he was using his position as an attorney to intimidate and threaten me. I know other attorneys who are stand up human beings and conduct themselves in a very professional manner. This man does not fall into those catagories. | ||
| Warren E. Smith (Magoo)
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Well said Dave. | ||
| David Harris (Dakharris)
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Don, are you prepared to contact the attorney's Bar Assn. on Sandra's behalf to preserve the "purity" of your "profession?" Self-discipline is a cornerstone of "professionalism," but most Bars get pretty wishy-washy after the bar exam is over. Give it a rest. | ||
| Warren E. Smith (Magoo)
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Don, I don't think anyone on this chat line should apologize to you. I think the apology should come from that fraternal brother who ripped Sandra off on Ebay. He's the one who makes you guys look bad. What goes around comes around. | ||
| Adelina V. (Dina)
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Apologise for what ? Grow up ! | ||
| Don Norton (Litig8r)
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What do you mean "so-called profession"? I'm an attorney and quite proud of my profession. I think attacking attorneys generally because someone had a problem on e-bay with one attorney is quite uncalled for and an apology is in order. | ||
| Warren E. Smith (Magoo)
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Hi Sandra, I think the point has been made here, that an attorney was untruthful and led you into believeing that he was trustworthy because of his profession. Thank you for pointing that out. Now I think we can see both sides of the coin on Ebay transactions. | ||
| Awang (Wang)
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Caveat Emptor ..... but nothing beats good old honesty on a firm handshake! | ||
| Sandra Cairncross (Sandrac)
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Magoo, What I failed to mention is that he professed to having "strong ethical values" so that's why he offered the partial refund and to supply the parts. I found that particularly hard to believe considering the blatant inaccurate Ebay description. So in answer to your question: NO, he is not a credit in any way, shape or form to his so-called profession! And I especially found his registered letter very distasteful and uncalled for. I'd be happy to send you a copy if you're interested. It's amusing in a strange sort of way. How one justifies one's actions... | ||
| Warren E. Smith (Magoo)
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Sam, the one thing that is obvious here is that the average guy can advertise, it may not be completely spelled out and could appear to be misleading. An Attorney knowingly defrauds someone and uses his profession to defend his actions. They should know better. And yes you are right and I totally agree with you, "BUYER BEWARE." | ||
| Sam NYCFERRARIS (Sam)
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Sadly, we read about this all too often on this chat. the simple rules are ... "Buyer Beware"..."If it sounds to good to be true it is not..." and of course .."if you think you are getting a bargain..you aren't" The best thing to do is for a buyer to do his/her research, contact the resources on this chat (there was recently a debate about a 308 that was in a bad front-end accident but not advertised as such) and sadly, expect that every seller knows what they are selling and for how much, are motivated by profit not charity and may be misleading. We are always hearing about the prisitine Ferari 308/or 348 or 355 well below market price and looks great and what do we all think..seller says mileage correct and had major service done etc.. Ebay auctions and Ferrari car sales are still in the real world, I guess I am a jaded NYer, but you'd be amazed at how many fake rolex and prada merchandise gets sold on the streets here so PT Barnum's sucker is still procreating. | ||
| Warren E. Smith (Magoo)
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Sandra, Would you say he was a credit to his profession? | ||
| Sandra Cairncross (Sandrac)
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Magoo, I didn't report it to Ebay because it was sold outside of Ebay, not meeting the reserve. In their rules it states that they can't help you if an item is sold that way, so I figured it wouldn't do much good. I did try very hard to work it out with him, he would only admit to his opinion of restored and my opinion might be different. I even sent him the Webster's definition of "restored"...no comment from him. As an attorney, I would think he would be VERY aware of using words that aren't accurate in describing something. The reason I know he did it deliberately is that he told me he buys and sells alot of these old minibikes. He knows when he has a nice one or not! I think he just wanted to dump it, saw what the little Honda minitrails were going for on Ebay and decided he could make some money. I paid $1800 for it, turned around and put it back on Ebay with a very detailed and accurate description and got $1000. His reserve was over $2000, which should buy you a minitrail in, not perfect, but very good condition. The fully restored ones go for $3000. I expected to see a few areas of concern, but this bike was almost a basketcase, paint wasn't even the proper Honda color, kickstarter spline stripped (had to bump start it) and he promised to send parts that were missing and didnt do that either. I was totally disgusted, not only with what I paid for, but his attitude and threats as well. | ||
| Warren E. Smith (Magoo)
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Sandra, Did you ever report to Ebay as to how the Attorney ripped you off? | ||
| Warren E. Smith (Magoo)
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Sandra, What's so hard to believe is a Attorney doing this publicly on Ebay. He deliberatly set you up with merchandise knowing it was defective and damaged and lied about it. Then promised you a partial rebate which you never got. Oh well, it shows you can't even trust attorneys on Ebay. Right guys. I am sorry that happened to you. People in glass houses shouldn't throw stones. But they do. | ||
| paul s (Pes236)
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sandra i've gotten that slander threat already - because i stood up to them and told them to their face that they were a liar and cheat in front of other people. well it was true. I think thats the threat most lowlifes like to use. you know what they say - the truth hurts | ||
| Sandra Cairncross (Sandrac)
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Magoo, Yep, after he read my email listing all the parts missing or damaged, and telling him his description wasn't even close to the true condition, I received a registered letter from his office. He warned me that I could be liable for slander, oh please, and that I could always sue him. After being very nice and telling him I honestly wanted to work it out, but he must admit to a misleading description he said he would send me a partial refund but never did!! His excuse for not paying: a tornado destroyed his offices. I think God was trying to tell him something. Like get some decent business ethics! | ||
| Warren E. Smith (Magoo)
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Does it seem that EBAY is getting a bad reputation ? Some of the comments sound that way. | ||
| Michael Fennell (Mfennell70)
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My only negative EBAY experience so far is kind of embarrassing. I won an auction for an Autoweek magazine, completing my collection of tests of my S4s. I paid right away. After 2 weeks with no magazine, I started sending e-mails. After 1 week of that, the negative feedback was starting to pile up for the seller. I added my own and got an instant retaliatory negative. My e-mails (sent from different accounts, BTW) were never responded to. The magazine was waiting for me at home the same day I sent negative feedback. D'oh! | ||
| Warren E. Smith (Magoo)
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Ron , Go to ebay motors . I think it is under items sold. | ||
| Ron Dallas (328infoseeker)
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How do you find the sold $ for cars on Ebay? | ||
| Warren E. Smith (Magoo)
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Sandra, You're telling us that an Attorney did that? On EBAY? | ||
| Sandra Cairncross (Sandrac)
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Most of my dealings have been great. Only 1 or 2 problems, but most sellers are eager to make sure you're happy, because they want that positive feedback. If things arent as described, I try to let the seller know (in a very nice way) and ask if they'd be willing to do a partial refund, but usually items are close to described condition. Occasinally an item is better than the photo or description so I leave terrific feedback and send a "thank you" email. Only 1 time I really got taken but it was my own fault. The item didnt meet reserve but I was the high bidder. Seller made contact and offered it for my high bid. It was junk when I got it, so he got a nice little email about it but had no desire to make me happy. Get this, he was an attorney! Jerk! I know that he set the reserve super high to make you think it was much nicer than it was and the photo was deceiving. Many parts were missing or damaged with no mention in the description. Said "totally restored" yeah right! | ||
| Don Norton (Litig8r)
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If you feel really strongly and want to get back at someone for ripping you off on e-bay, file a small claims complaint against him. Even if he's out of state, he's most likely submitted himself to the jurisdiction of your local courts by doing business with you. Have the Sheriff in whatever County he lives in serve him with the papers. If he doesn't satisfy you, proceed to court, get a judgment against him, and it'll follow him around on his credit report until he satisfies it. If you want to see him howl, wait until he tries to buy a house or car with that on his credit report. | ||
| ANGELO ALBANESE (Lbanez)
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I sold 3 Mann air filters for a BMW to a lawyer in LA, he won the bid, the total cost was 35.00 mailed to LA, he tells me to mail them to his other home in Vancover, He emails me back that the shipping cost should only be 7.00, It was going to cost 9.84 for me to ship there,not including the wrapping and cost for me to bring it to the post office, the auction clearly stated shipping cost as 10.00, due to the size and weight, he starts crying foul, that i'm charging too much for shipping,I tell him you're a Lawyer , read the print at the bottom of the listing, when you bid , you agree to all the conditions listed , if you don't like it , don't bid. This guy was getting $75.00 worth of filters for 35.00 delivered. Well he didn't like my email about reading the whole ad before bidding, I told him next time have your secretary read it for him since they do all the work most the time anyway.....I told him keep your money, I see things are tight around your office, I sold the filters to someone else and gave the money to charity | ||
| Peter Boray (Gts308qv)
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Only once, when I was the second highest bidder on an hood scoop for my '68 Ranchero GT. A week later the seller contacted me and said the winning bidder did not reply to his emails, so would I still be interested. Yes, this is against Ebay rules, but I wanted the item so I said OK. Paid, and did receive the item, BUT not as it was described. Was described as: Immaculate ready to bolt on. Actual condition: Broken in half and glued back together, lots of bondo, parts missing from the indicator lights. Being a purchase outside ebay, I could not post any feedback and the guy did not answer any emails. Basically I was "set up" ! Found out later he does this all the time under constantly changing names and user ID's. Contacted Ebay, but no result. He is probably still at it ! | ||
| Herbert Edward Gault (Irfgt)
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I have only had one bad experience with one guy who just flat lied about an item making it something valuable and his description also fooled others which also drove up the bidding. After winning the bidding and receiving the item I found that it was just a commonly available item worth about $5.00 and I had won the bidding for around $80.00. It really pissed me off, not so much about the money but the fact that he lied to blatently. I also contacted the other bidders to ask it they understood what they were bidding on and they agreed with me that I had been duped. I contacted EBAY and it was totally useless since at the time they said they did not investigate fraud {DUH} so after giving the fellow fair warning I left bad feedback and called the Attorney General from Michigan and boy did that get results! I do not know what was said but the guy called me up and begged to give my money back just please call the Attorney General and tell her that the matter was resolved. He even sent the money by Western Union. He also left the only negative feedback that I have as a retaliation though and I really resent that and believe it is a problem with the EBAY system but will not stop me from giving future bad feedback if it should happen again. I believe in the Golden rule. | ||
| charles (86mondial)
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Someone in my office bought a schmitt car. Not a Ferrari. Anyway..the car was a lemon. Unsafe, service records probably forged. Not sure but probably. The person in the office contacted the old owner who disclosed all of this to Schmitt but they neglected to pass it on. | ||
| David Harris (Dakharris)
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I bought my Ferrari off of Ebay. It was local, so I drove it, inspected it, and did the paperwork personally. I'm very happy with my purchase. I try to pay by credit card or Paypal on most items. You have someone to referee and a chance to get your money back with them in the middle. I lost $185 when I sent a check to a guy who never shipped and then got kicked off of Ebay. Forget their Lloyds of London "insurance." It's a joke and impossible to collect on if you follow the terms. The user feedback is usually a good indicator, but the guy who stiffed me had great feedback until the week I bought from him. | ||
| BobD (Bobd)
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Here's a very recent Daniel Schmitt story. I was in St. Louis a couple of weeks ago for biz. While there, I stopped by Daniel Schmitt.... they're 10 minutes from Lambert Airport. I asked to see the Ferrari 328 with 600 miles. The guy I spoke to (wearing a tie) said they had sold it. I got back back and saw it listed again on eBay. The car was obviously still there. Go figure. | ||
| Jim E (Jimpo1)
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So whats up with that Daniel Schmitt 328 with 609 miles? He lists it, gets the bids up to the high $60s, then relists. What the heck does he WANT for his car? I'd like to hear the horror stories on this guy if anyone would care to share. I considered buying the green 328 that was listed on Ebay in FLA, but contacted the guy that won the auction, and the dealer wouldn't sell it to him for the auction price. | ||
| Doug Meredith (Doug308)
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If you notice, the Daniel Schmitt auctions now do not disclose the bidders "for the bidders privacy". I think it's because many car enthusiests try to warn the bidders about the cars they sell. | ||
| charles (86mondial)
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avoid daniel schmitt auctions | ||
| ANGELO ALBANESE (Lbanez)
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I HAVE SOME REAL INTERESTING ONES THAT WOULD BRING A TEAR TO A GLASS EYE!!! I'll post them later | ||
| Scott85 (Scott85)
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I'd have to agree with you. I've received some things where the seller said it was "mint" and it wasn't. I've had the same thing happen to me when selling, but i usually work it out, either by giving some money back , or buying the item back. I always try to be as descriptive as possible when listing items. I've only had one person tell me the item was damaged in transit, but when i told them to return it & i would refund their money, nothing else ever happened, hmmmmmm.If a buyer never paid me, i ALWAYS left negative feedback, never received any(and i always save emails from deadbeat bidders). Usually some story how their brother, friend, etc was using their computer. | ||
| Rob Lay (Rob328gts)
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I haven't had any bad experiences yet. The only ones I wasn't 100% happy with were 4 M3 wheels that took 6-8 weeks more than expected to deliver and then an M3 exhaust that was bent. Otherwise, I've been happy. | ||
| ANGELO ALBANESE (Lbanez)
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IS it just me or are there any other people getting jerked around,SELLERS RENEGGING on their products, sellers advertising IN EXCELLENT CONDITION, recieving them in POOR CONDITION, OR THE BEST ONE YET , Sorry I moved can't find it now. I know I've done quite a few purchaces and sales on ebay, 97% have been great, then you get that 3% that are just horror stories......What was your best or worst??? |