| Author | Message | ||
| Jordan Witherspoon (Jordan747_400)
New member Username: Jordan747_400 Post Number: 14 Registered: 12-2002 |
I love what you said William and I agree with everything you! "Perhaps the older cars had more character or perhaps you have to be more of a character to drive one" Thats one of the coolest quotes ever! Mind if I steal it to explain my love for the older cars to my friends who don't understand?  | ||
| Joseph (Mojo)
Junior Member Username: Mojo Post Number: 172 Registered: 9-2002 |
Terry Thanks for posting that. That has classic, exotic written all over it. I love it. Classic ferrari's are so cool. | ||
| Ken (Allyn)
Member Username: Allyn Post Number: 582 Registered: 10-2001 |
I like the classics since I own a classic Lotus, but to tell the truth, they are a lot of trouble as a daily driver so I don't drive it on very long trips or iffy weather. I'd like a 456 also; 4 seats and modern technology/reliability. | ||
| Terry (Dogue)
Junior Member Username: Dogue Post Number: 147 Registered: 9-2001 |
Mojo, Here are some pictures from FCA-LA last year.   | ||
| William H (Countachxx)
Intermediate Member Username: Countachxx Post Number: 1658 Registered: 2-2001 |
the 550 & 575 are great cars but there are so many of them here in Miami that they get sort of boring, Ive only seen 1 Daytona since September so that was pretty thrilling. I think a 575 says you have $, you MIGHT be a Tifosi or you might just b a schmuck who likes to flash $ & knows next to nothing about Ferraris. A Daytona says you have a passion for Ferrari, no questions | ||
| Joseph (Mojo)
Junior Member Username: Mojo Post Number: 169 Registered: 9-2002 |
I think of old as 246 dino and older. | ||
| Raleigh Smith (288gto)
Junior Member Username: 288gto Post Number: 63 Registered: 10-2002 |
Mojo, check out a book called "Ferrari, the Road Cars". It has pics of most old road and GT cars. As for me I need a definition of old. Is old 48-79 or is old 48-89? I think I would take a 288 GTO over anything. It has the great lines of the 308 with neck breaking power. The best of both worlds. Do you think that you can fit a 355 engine in a 308? | ||
| Joseph (Mojo)
Junior Member Username: Mojo Post Number: 168 Registered: 9-2002 |
William H Any pics, what does a 250 TR pontoon body look like? I would love to see a site that has pic's of old ferrari's. Mojo | ||
| A.Tonokaboni (Senna1994)
Junior Member Username: Senna1994 Post Number: 78 Registered: 9-2002 |
Great Piece Terry, I agree about the F1 Comparison. Even in the Turbo Era, they had 1,000 BHP with manual transmissions, and Right Foot Traction Control. | ||
| David P. Smith (Dave330gtc)
Junior Member Username: Dave330gtc Post Number: 60 Registered: 3-2002 |
Amen, Terry | ||
| Terry Springer (Tspringer)
Member Username: Tspringer Post Number: 346 Registered: 4-2002 |
I'll take the old in all price catagories. The older cars not only look and sound so much better to me, but they offer a much more involved driving experience. Anyone can lap reasonably fast in a F360 or Enzo... the electronics substitute for the skill to a large degree (that is up to 9/10ths... that final bit of on the edge performance is still all skill). In the older cars, its all about the driver. This is one reason I dont hold Schumacher in the same league with Fangio even though they each have 5 F1 titles now. Consider at similar prices: F348 vs 246GT Dino... Ill take the 246 all day F355 vs 330GTC Give me that V12 ! F360 vs 365GTB/4 Daytona are you kidding me? F40 vs 275GTB gotta go with the classic 275 F50 vs 250GT SWB well, close in price, gimme SWB! Enzo vs '59 250TR you know what I want! Anyhow, just my opinion and I do understand the allure of the newer cars. The ideal of coarse would be to a few from both era's. | ||
| Racer 001 (Mr_0011)
Member Username: Mr_0011 Post Number: 435 Registered: 3-2002 |
I like the newer ones, but they're all great... As for Ferrari coming out with something that looks like a classic model form the 60's, I'm all for it. With a powertrain like the 575M's you'd be set to experence the best of both worlds... | ||
| Gene Agatep (Gagatep)
Junior Member Username: Gagatep Post Number: 115 Registered: 8-2002 |
Martin, I've been thinking about your blue 208... set it up as a road/race car re-do suspension plus wheels and tires roll cage, seats, and 5 point harness with a 355, 360, or any flat 12 engine (boxer, tr) weight = less than 2500 lbs it would drive like a go-cart | ||
| Matt (Matt_lamotte)
Junior Member Username: Matt_lamotte Post Number: 85 Registered: 10-2002 |
I like the newer cars better due to appearance. The modena, Enzo, F-50 etc just have a more stunning appearance in person. I do enjoy the older cars but I am more a fan of the modern technology | ||
| William H (Countachxx)
Intermediate Member Username: Countachxx Post Number: 1656 Registered: 2-2001 |
Mojo, I'm thinking 550 engine & drivetrain in a 250 TR pontoon body Yeah Baby!!!!! | ||
| BretM (Bretm)
Advanced Member Username: Bretm Post Number: 3110 Registered: 2-2001 |
I'd also take an F40 over the Enzo William (pump it up to like 700hp, make it even more of a beast). The reasons I would take the F40 over any other super Ferrari are. 1. it is lighter, 2. it is more readily modified into a monster, 3. it is more raw, 4. they made a lot of them, 5. it's definitely got the last of the commendatore in it. I like older cars more to be honest, BUT only if I was to have a newer car next to it in the garage for when I didnt feel like dealing with a car that stalls, wont start, etc. There are times when dealing with this stuff is pretty fun to me at least, but when I'm sick or it's 1am and I have to be up before 7 for work the next day, etc. I would take a new car like a 355. I think my favorite older car is the 250GT SWB, the competizione ones with the aluminum bodies and the big gas filler cap on the right, racing style...just in case one of you guys want to get me an early Christmas present. | ||
| Joseph (Mojo)
Junior Member Username: Mojo Post Number: 167 Registered: 9-2002 |
I would like to see a 62 GTO style built buy Ferrari today, 575 engine, GTO body. Best of both WHO'S WITH ME? | ||
| Willis Huang (Willis360)
Intermediate Member Username: Willis360 Post Number: 1055 Registered: 8-2001 |
To me, there is NO new versus classics. I like both. | ||
| Andrew Menasce (Amenasce)
Member Username: Amenasce Post Number: 415 Registered: 10-2001 |
If money were no object i would love to get a 250 SWB competizione . | ||
| KCCK (Kenneth)
Junior Member Username: Kenneth Post Number: 102 Registered: 10-2002 |
I would go for new cars. I hate breaking down and being stranded on the road. I also admire the new innovative techology that are being introduced into today's cars. Sorry, It is just me. :-( | ||
| Eric Eiland (Eric308gtsiqv)
Member Username: Eric308gtsiqv Post Number: 494 Registered: 11-2001 |
I personally enjoy all the idiosyncrasies of older / vintage cars. I expect them to be cantankerous, cold natured, and rather unrefined compared to modern vehicles -- all of which give them their own individual "character". Just as William H and Martin stated -- it's great to enjoy (with passion) a particular car for simply what it is. Having grown up drooling over and yearning for vehicles of a certain vintage (mainly late 70's and the 80's), those cars will always have a bigger appeal to me. They are a part of my life, so to speak. Car buddies can't understand why I'd even consider owning a Lambo Countach. The answer is very simple to me. | ||
| Bill Sawyer (Wsawyer)
Member Username: Wsawyer Post Number: 573 Registered: 2-2002 |
A lot depends upon your level of passion and involvement. I lean toward the classics. I'd love a Lusso, Dino or Daytona, but the reality of living with them makes me wonder. You need to either be a stellar mechanic or have one on retainer. You don't pay for these cars once, you pay for them over and over and over again. And then there is the question of performance. Certainly, the classic will deliver more on-the-edge thrills than a new car, but is that enough? Will the go-cart-like handling of a Dino make you forget that every hairdresser in a Z3 can out accelerate you? I need to have both. A car that can provide modern day levels of performance, and another that has the classic lines, sounds and allure of the older cars. If money were no object I'd have one of each. Perhaps a 550 Maranello and a Dino, or a 360 Spider and a Daytona, Lusso or 275 GTB. That way you can enjoy both sides of Ferrari's heritage--the 12 cyl beasts and the 6/8 cylinder "Dinos". | ||
| William H (Countachxx)
Intermediate Member Username: Countachxx Post Number: 1654 Registered: 2-2001 |
Good point Tom, the new cars have limits that surpass prototype racers of the 60s. ive blown past 250 TRs & 250 GTOs but that doesnt diminish their legend. Apples & Oranges I guess. Perhaps the older cars had more character or perhaps you have to be more of a character to drive one | ||
| Martin - Cavallino Motors (Miami348ts)
Advanced Member Username: Miami348ts Post Number: 3464 Registered: 5-2001 |
I love the old ones as well but honestly for every day driving I prefer a modern car. AC works good, starts in the morning, no carb pre-heating etc. Best of both worlds is having both | ||
| TomD (Tifosi)
Intermediate Member Username: Tifosi Post Number: 2005 Registered: 9-2001 |
I think as some members have pointed out the new cars are so well refined and put together it is hard to drive them on edge unless you are on the track, thus some of the shortfalls of the older cars help make the driving experiece on normal roads much more exciting. | ||
| William H (Countachxx)
Intermediate Member Username: Countachxx Post Number: 1651 Registered: 2-2001 |
This is an offshoot of Magoo's thread, the tangent that Arlie started. I felt it was interesting enough to deserve to be a thread in itself. So, what are your opinions ? You know I buy what I like, not just the "new hotness" as Will Smith put it in MIB2. I'd take a nice F40 over an ENZO any day of the week. New stuff can be interesting and has its good points like modern Jazz or computer tech but I think in general I prefer classics. Beethoven is long dead and gone but Madonna still cant hold a candle to him |