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| Spyder (Spyder)
New member Username: Spyder Post Number: 6 Registered: 10-2002 |
L. Wayne Ausbrooks, The last one was a Maserati, I threw that pic in� I�m still amazed at the beauty of these cars and it was great to see these cars doing what they were built to do. | |||
| L. Wayne Ausbrooks (Lwausbrooks)
Member Username: Lwausbrooks Post Number: 575 Registered: 8-2002 |
I just got home and I have a positive I.D. on that 166 (not that any of you care). It's s/n 0342M. | |||
| L. Wayne Ausbrooks (Lwausbrooks)
Member Username: Lwausbrooks Post Number: 574 Registered: 8-2002 |
Okay, after a quick web search, I think I've found a match for picture #4. Here is a 1955 Maserati 300S:  What do you guys think? | |||
| L. Wayne Ausbrooks (Lwausbrooks)
Member Username: Lwausbrooks Post Number: 573 Registered: 8-2002 |
Spyder, off the top of my head I'm going to guess that your pics are (from top to bottom): 1. The 196S Dino s/n 0776 2. Definitely 1957 250TR s/n 0756TR (Belongs to Louis Sellyei. I've seen and photographed this car several times.) 3. Looks like a 166MM Vignale circa 1953. I'm not at home right now but I'm sure that anybody who has Massini's Vignale book can I.D. the exact serial number. 4. Beats me. Terry, I'd also like to suggest that you check with Mrs. Roush who handles the Ferrari Market Letter subscriptions, etc. for husband Gerald. The FML sometimes offers books for sale and I believe this book has been on their list before. | |||
| Spyder (Spyder)
New member Username: Spyder Post Number: 5 Registered: 10-2002 |
Here are a few Ferraris that I saw at Sebring a couple years ago. I haven�t researched these cars, so Which models are they?? The pics absolutely do not do these cars justice. They are restored to the point of being better than from the factory, I was truly impressed. They even raced after these pics were taken.     | |||
| L. Wayne Ausbrooks (Lwausbrooks)
Member Username: Lwausbrooks Post Number: 569 Registered: 8-2002 |
Terry, give these guys a shot. If you don't see it on their list (it takes a while to download), send them an email. http://home.tiscali.nl/~t174048/English/efrhome.htm | |||
| Terry (Dogue)
Junior Member Username: Dogue Post Number: 157 Registered: 9-2001 |
L.Wayne, Considering you are the most knowlegable Ferrari Historian I know, Maybe you know where I can find a particular book. It is called "125S-The First Ferrari" it is written by G.Rogliatti the same person that gave us the "Ferrari Story" Series. I have only seen the book one time on Ebay and was outbid at the last second. I have exhausted all online sources for Ferrari books. Any help would be appreciated. | |||
| James Glickenhaus (Napolis)
Junior Member Username: Napolis Post Number: 244 Registered: 10-2002 |
Terry, As you (me) get older you get cranky but I do believe that the race cars you mentioned and others of that era were very special. They looked closer to models that could be driven on the street, indeed some of them still are. They were also built when curves were still thought to be more aerodynamic rather than wedges and IMHO are much more beautiful. It's interesting to see the photo of my MK-IV as it raced at LeMans 35 years ago (P4 Photos). Except for the #2, a very small "AUTOLITE" emblem and the Block letters "FORD" on the sill they weren't covered by so many stickers that you couldn't still see their line. The P4's were similarily unadorned. Those were some of the last racecars that could be, and sometimes were, driven to the track. Arlie The sound of those massive CanAm engines is something you never forget. Like Heuy's coming in over the ridge, you feel them before you hear them. | |||
| Horsefly (Arlie)
Member Username: Arlie Post Number: 527 Registered: 5-2002 |
And if I remember reading correctly, those Can Am big block Chevys used an aluminum engine block with a special alloy from Reynolds Aluminum that did not require a cylinder sleeve. Supposedly the aluminum alloy had a high silicon content that allowed for excellent bore finishing. The technology was later used on the lowly Chevrolet Vega aluminum engine block. And of course there is a good chance that the bauxite ore that made the aluminum was mined in Bauxite, Arkansas, where one of the Reynolds aluminum mines was located. Probably more info than anybody needed. | |||
| Terry (Dogue)
Junior Member Username: Dogue Post Number: 158 Registered: 9-2001 |
Thanks, Jim for the correction on the Can Am racing being a sprint rather than an endurance challenge. My only excuse is my age, I wasn't born when this all took place and considering the very short envolvement Ferrari had in the series, I seem to have forgotten to pay enough attention to the details. I do wish Ferrari would get back into endurance racing and campaign a factory car, but I know that will never happen. It is the 250 TRs, 250 SWBs, GTOs, 275 LMs, & 330P(3/4)s that spark so much passion and although the F1 cars of yesterday are very beautiful, they do not compare to the above mentioned GT racers. | |||
| James Glickenhaus (Napolis)
Junior Member Username: Napolis Post Number: 243 Registered: 10-2002 |
The 612 and 712 were built for the CanAm, more of a sprint really, and one of the only kinds of racing where Ferrari competed that it didn't do too well as Terry pointed out. The Lola's McLaren's, and Chaparral's,(with their big block Chevy's Arlie) stomped them until the Porsche 917-30, one of the most awesome race cars ever built:1600BHP,came along and stopmed them. Donohue remarked that the 917-30 could burn rubber from a standing start to 200MPH! | |||
| Terry (Dogue)
Junior Member Username: Dogue Post Number: 157 Registered: 9-2001 |
1968 they built 2 or 3 612 Can Am and then in 1971 they built one 712 CanAm. They did not fair very well if I remember correctly what I have read. And was pretty much the beginning of the end of Factory involvement in Endurance racing. It think the 312PB and 512 BB/LM where the only Factory campaigned endurance cars post the 712 CanAm & I am not even sure if the Factory ever ran a 512 BB/LM. I think Chris Amon raced in the 612. | |||
| DES (Sickspeed)
Member Username: Sickspeed Post Number: 270 Registered: 8-2002 |
BOOM! Terry, you got it...! For an extra no-prize, can you tell me what year...? (Readers of Spider Man comics often write in to the editor when they find mistakes in a previous issue of a comic- if the reader is write and a mistake was made, they would get a no-prize, which is basically acknowledgement that they were right and nothing else. It's not like they ever got anything, like a t-shirt or whatever, so that's why they called it a no-prize.) | |||
| Terry (Dogue)
Junior Member Username: Dogue Post Number: 156 Registered: 9-2001 |
DES, It looks like a 612 CanAM. But I don't understand the Spiderman Reference? | |||
| DES (Sickspeed)
Member Username: Sickspeed Post Number: 268 Registered: 8-2002 |
Oh, goody, i posted a hard one...! Sorry, Kev... | |||
| Kevin Butler (Challenge)
New member Username: Challenge Post Number: 41 Registered: 9-2002 |
196x 512 M? | |||
| DES (Sickspeed)
Member Username: Sickspeed Post Number: 266 Registered: 8-2002 |
(Awesome, i actually got a picture in the post!) Um, i mean... ahem... Since i finally got the hang of this, can anyone tell me what the picture, below is...? Winner gets a no-prize (any Spider Man comic book fans will know what that is...)  (Thanks, Rob and everyone else, for helping me out with successfully posting a picture.) | |||
| Terry (Dogue)
Junior Member Username: Dogue Post Number: 155 Registered: 9-2001 |
DES, I work in multi-media, this was done in colored pencil (probably my strongest media). I do work in watercolor, scratchboard, acrylic and computer generated. I do sell art, but would never use this forum to do so, Unless I were a sponsor. I cannot afford sponsorship at this time, but it is in my plans. If you are interested in my work I can email you some other samples, just contact me privately. Wayne, Yes I have read that article, and actually saw the car at the Barrett Jackson Auction in 1997. It was in a 50th Anniversary display and was on of the best shows I have ever seen. Here is a picture of 002C  | |||
| L. Wayne Ausbrooks (Lwausbrooks)
Member Username: Lwausbrooks Post Number: 572 Registered: 8-2002 |
Terry, I'm impressed and surprised at the same time. All this time I thought I was the only F-car history buff here. Nice drawing too! By the way, I'm sure you've read it but, just in case, here's an article from Forza #6 that's interesting: http://www.theautochannel.com/publications/magazines/forza/number6/pg24.frame And did you know that 002C is being auctioned off by Bonham's in Gstaad tomorrow? Here's your chance to own a piece of F-car history: http://www.bonhams.com/gstaad.shtm | |||
| DES (Sickspeed)
Member Username: Sickspeed Post Number: 256 Registered: 8-2002 |
Terry, you should really consider selling some of your work (if you can do that, i know some artists won't let go of any pieces) but that picture is really nice... Did you do that with pastels or markers...? What other mediums do you work with and do you have any other pictures we could see...? | |||
| Terry (Dogue)
Junior Member Username: Dogue Post Number: 154 Registered: 9-2001 |
DES, NO L.Wayne is much more knowlegable than I am. I aspire to know half as much as he does. You just happen to hit a car a I know a little about. Thanks for the compliment. | |||
| DES (Sickspeed)
Member Username: Sickspeed Post Number: 251 Registered: 8-2002 |
Um... one more thing... if you look at my post where i tried to post a picture, you'll see it's my 334th post... Now the post just below this one is number 250 and this is #251- why is that...? Rob...? | |||
| DES (Sickspeed)
Junior Member Username: Sickspeed Post Number: 250 Registered: 8-2002 |
Wow, Terry...! that's just beyond impressive... You and L. Wayne should duke it out in a separate thread- winner gets a free jacket, right Lemus...? That picture is awesome, too... very nice... Thanks for the info... this was cool... | |||
| Terry (Dogue)
Junior Member Username: Dogue Post Number: 153 Registered: 9-2001 |
DES, Looking at the picture of the 1947 159 S, this is the second Ferrari ever built 02C. It started out life as a 125 Spyder Corsa (cycle fendered body. It raced in 9 races in Ferraris first year. The first race it raced in was the May 11th, Circuito di Piacenza wearing number 166. This was Ferraris first motor race but the car did not finish. The best finish for this car was a 1st place in Circuito di Varese at the hands of Franco Cortese, and a 1st place at Circuito di Parma at the legendary hands of Tazio Nuvalari. In August 1947 it was changed to 159 specs and fitted with a full body similar to the First Ferrari 125 S (01C). Later that same month (the picture shown)it was raced wearing number 21 by Franco Cortese at Pascara where it finished 2nd. The chassis was reused and renumbered 020I. So this car no longer exists. I have a great facination with the First Ferrari and just love the look of the 125 Sport (full body style). Here is the picture DES posted for those of you that could not see it.  And here is a drawing I did of the recreation of a 125S that is in the Galleria in Maranello.  | |||
| Rob Lay (Rob328gts)
Board Administrator Username: Rob328gts Post Number: 3047 Registered: 12-2000 |
Prob has to be gif or jpg format. | |||
| Michael Zaic (Mikez_nj)
New member Username: Mikez_nj Post Number: 9 Registered: 12-2002 |
Yikes! I need to figure out the images thing too! Sorry bout that... | |||
| Kenny Herman (Kennyh)
Member Username: Kennyh Post Number: 483 Registered: 8-2001 |
Hey sickspeed, I bet the car is a 1947 Ferrari 159 S | |||
| DES (Sickspeed)
Member Username: Sickspeed Post Number: 335 Registered: 8-2002 |
Um, ok... so that didn't work... can anyone help me out...? i've bothered Rob enough about posting pictures in posts, can anyone tell me why the picture didn't show up (and why it says, right there, what the car is...?) | |||
| DES (Sickspeed)
Member Username: Sickspeed Post Number: 334 Registered: 8-2002 |
Ok, we all know i'm not an aficionado, by any means, but it's really cool watching everyone else just spout all these facts about a car, just by looking at an image, so i'd like to throw one out there. i went searching for something not-so-common. Here goes...
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| 010 (Starpilot555)
New member Username: Starpilot555 Post Number: 3 Registered: 12-2002 |
Wayne, How did you develop such a tremendous knowledge of these older Ferraris? Best, SP | |||
| L. Wayne Ausbrooks (Lwausbrooks)
Member Username: Lwausbrooks Post Number: 580 Registered: 8-2002 |
ANSWERS: Okay, first the two photos that I posted. The top one is s/n 0716TR, originally a pontoon-fendered 250 Testa Rossa (1958) that was rebodied in 1964 by Drogo. This photo was taken by Ed Niles who owned the car in the mid-70's. Years later, it was rebodied back into a 250TR by Fantuzzi and this body has been lost forever. The car that William Speer is referring to is 250GT SWB s/n 2735GT whos Drogo body was installed on 250GTE s/n 3611GT and, yes, it was badly crashed on October 3, 1998. The second photo I posted is 750 Monza s/n 0486M as converted into a gullwing coupe by Peter Monteverdi in 1957. The Monteverdi body was removed in 1987 as the car began a long restoration back to its original Scaglietti spyder configuration. The top picture from Terry's post is 1961 250GT SWB s/n 2491. The car was rebodied by Zagato and presented at the 1971 Turin Salon. Although he had the car listed for sale in the FML in 1991 (first for $1.77 million, then for $1.7 million) Anatoly Arutunoff of Tulsa, OK is still the current owner. | |||
| Brian Willis (Lmpdesigner)
New member Username: Lmpdesigner Post Number: 2 Registered: 11-2002 |
To all, The "F1" looking car should be the Ferrari Champcar that was done in the mid 80's. It is hard to tell from that picture. The car was a nonstarter but the engine became the Alfa Champcar engine that ran for a little while in the 80's. There is actually a 1/43rd scale model of the car--Starter I think. Brian Willis | |||
| Brian Willis (Lmpdesigner)
New member Username: Lmpdesigner Post Number: 1 Registered: 11-2002 |
To all, The "F1" looking car should be the Ferrari Champcar that was done in the mid 80's. It is hard to tell from that picture. The car was a nonstarter but the engine became the Alfa Champcar engine that ran for a little while in the 80's. There is actually a 1/43rd scale model of the car--Starter I think. Brian Willis | |||
| william speer (Wspeer)
Junior Member Username: Wspeer Post Number: 113 Registered: 8-2002 |
thank you david, if it was a more common name i probably wouldn't have even remembered as much as i did, but then again, as i said, i would butcher it. | |||
| David P. Smith (Dave330gtc)
Junior Member Username: Dave330gtc Post Number: 62 Registered: 3-2002 |
Anatoly Arutunoff | |||
| william speer (Wspeer)
Junior Member Username: Wspeer Post Number: 108 Registered: 8-2002 |
wayne, is the upper photo the drogo body that was used on the swb and later fitted to a gte (?) body. i believe it came up for sale a couple of years ago and was wrecked in a race in france shortly thereafter. the other car is the zagato 3z built on a california lwb chasis is owned by a gentleman is oklahoma whose name i am not about to butcher from memory (it sounds russian is i believe is arotoly- not willing to stick my name out to far for his name, but the car is definitely the 3z). | |||
| Terry (Dogue)
Junior Member Username: Dogue Post Number: 154 Registered: 9-2001 |
When I first saw this Ferrari at the La Carrara Real rally in New Mexico, in early 1991. I thought it had to have been a fake Ferrari, based on some Nissan or something. But NO! Can you name it? (I am sure Wayne will name it right away).  Here is a picture of the Drogo Bodied 250 GT from the same event.  | |||
| Horsefly (Arlie)
Member Username: Arlie Post Number: 521 Registered: 5-2002 |
L.Wayne, you better have the signed and notarized copyright releases before you post those rare Ferrari photos or JRV might turn you over to the copyright police! | |||
| L. Wayne Ausbrooks (Lwausbrooks)
Member Username: Lwausbrooks Post Number: 579 Registered: 8-2002 |
Terry, I'm impressed! Bert/David, Daivid's correct. It's a 250 GT PF coupe (s/n 0977GT) rebodied by Drogo for its second owner, Pierre De Siebenthal, and owned by Hugh Ruthven (of Chicago, IL) since 1973. Bryan, sorry, but no dice on either. Anybody else? | |||
| John A. Suarez (Futureowner)
Member Username: Futureowner Post Number: 332 Registered: 3-2002 |
Terry, You are exactly right! The F1 looking car is actually the Indy car that Ferrari built as a show of might and ability. Good job! | |||
| Terry (Dogue)
Junior Member Username: Dogue Post Number: 153 Registered: 9-2001 |
John, The F1 (looking) Car, is that the Indy Car Prototype? I think from 1988 when Enzo was getting fed up with F1. I have only seen one picture of the car before so I could be wrong. | |||
| Dave Penhale (Dapper)
Member Username: Dapper Post Number: 423 Registered: 4-2002 |
that Pininfarina Modulo was one of the featured cars in the old 1970's Trump cards - prototypes. ....now where in the attic did I bury those packs? | |||
| David P. Smith (Dave330gtc)
Junior Member Username: Dave330gtc Post Number: 61 Registered: 3-2002 |
Looks like Hugh Ruthven's 250 Drogo body. | |||
| Bert Kanters (Bert308)
New member Username: Bert308 Post Number: 7 Registered: 11-2002 |
Can someone name this car? Looks like a 250 special.  | |||
| Bryan Phillips (Bryanp)
New member Username: Bryanp Post Number: 25 Registered: 8-2002 |
I'll take a stab . . . lower shot; has the rear fender treatment of a 250 TdF, but the windscreen looks strangely vertical and the door doesn't look long enough -perhaps a prototipo TdF? upper shot - looks like a 2-side vent GTO, except the fender cut behind the rear wheel looks wrong and the 2 side vents are too far apart from each other - the tail looks too long . . . stumped | |||
| L. Wayne Ausbrooks (Lwausbrooks)
Member Username: Lwausbrooks Post Number: 578 Registered: 8-2002 |
This is fun. Okay, here's a couple of tough ones:   | |||
| L. Wayne Ausbrooks (Lwausbrooks)
Member Username: Lwausbrooks Post Number: 577 Registered: 8-2002 |
Jens, good job. For those who care, the PPG Pace Car is built on Mondial chassis# 76390. Bart, it's exactly that modern-looking swept back rear end that throws it off. The cockpit and front end are purely F187 (1987). John, do you know what the story is behind this? | |||
| Jens Haller (Jh280774)
Junior Member Username: Jh280774 Post Number: 146 Registered: 9-2001 |
Great finally something I know: The car from L.Wayne Ausbrook is the Ferrari Pace car made for the Indy car series. It was sponsored from PPG and built by Ferrari with a 348 engine and the chassis of a Mondial T Con saluti cordialissimi, Jens Haller | |||
| Bart Boonacker (Sharky666)
Junior Member Username: Sharky666 Post Number: 110 Registered: 9-2002 |
The F1 is probably a '87, can't really make out what kind of roll bar it has, I guess it has the black "stand-alone" frame. I don't really know how to put it in english. Only the back-end isn't really the "right" one | |||
| L. Wayne Ausbrooks (Lwausbrooks)
Member Username: Lwausbrooks Post Number: 576 Registered: 8-2002 |
Okay, John, I think I'm stumped. The car in the background looks like the 1995 412T2 but I can't identify the indended car. Any monoposto fans out there know what it is? | |||
| L. Wayne Ausbrooks (Lwausbrooks)
Member Username: Lwausbrooks Post Number: 575 Registered: 8-2002 |
John, the first one is the Pininfarina "Modulo" show car from 1970. It was built on the chassis of 512S s/n 1046. Of course, it could also be the exact replica of the Modulo that was built in 1996 by Hajduk for a Mr. Rob Dyson. The second car appears to be a Formula One car from the late 1980's or early 1990's. Give me a sec and I'll see if I can't come up with a more accurate answer on that one. | |||
| John A. Suarez (Futureowner)
Member Username: Futureowner Post Number: 330 Registered: 3-2002 |
And another!  | |||
| John A. Suarez (Futureowner)
Member Username: Futureowner Post Number: 329 Registered: 3-2002 |
Here is one!!!  | |||
| L. Wayne Ausbrooks (Lwausbrooks)
Member Username: Lwausbrooks Post Number: 573 Registered: 8-2002 |
Ok, here's one for you guys. What is this?  | |||
| John A. Suarez (Futureowner)
Member Username: Futureowner Post Number: 326 Registered: 3-2002 |
No, just showing the difference between the kit car and an F40LM | |||
| L. Wayne Ausbrooks (Lwausbrooks)
Member Username: Lwausbrooks Post Number: 572 Registered: 8-2002 |
Regarding Wade's post: Zagato "FZ93" presented at the 1993 Geneva Salon and built on Testarossa chassis# 83935. Regarding Randy's post: Whatever. Regarding John's post: I don't think the idea was to guess at that one, was it? | |||
| John A. Suarez (Futureowner)
Member Username: Futureowner Post Number: 324 Registered: 3-2002 |
Check this out!  | |||
| DES (Sickspeed)
Member Username: Sickspeed Post Number: 254 Registered: 8-2002 |
But doesn't the ass of a TR look propped up, too...? kinda...? sorta...? maybe... | |||
| John A. Suarez (Futureowner)
Member Username: Futureowner Post Number: 323 Registered: 3-2002 |
DES, It is the exhaust and the way the rear end has to be propped up that are the dead giveaways | |||
| DES (Sickspeed)
Member Username: Sickspeed Post Number: 251 Registered: 8-2002 |
See, now when the picture started loading, my first guess was a Testarossa... but i cheated and looked at everyone else's answers... what is it that gives it away that it's an F40...? is it the bottom of the car, where the exhaust pipes come out from the middle and the bumper panel thingie droops down at either end...? Bret, you sounded kinda like L. Wayne there, spouting all that knowledge, making it look so easy... you two aren't in competition are you...? | |||
| Andrew (Mrrou)
Member Username: Mrrou Post Number: 460 Registered: 3-2002 |
Also on a standard F40 when you raise the engine cover you can see the whole top of the rear tires..can only see 1\4 of them on this one. Oops | |||
| Andrew (Mrrou)
Member Username: Mrrou Post Number: 459 Registered: 3-2002 |
BretM an easy way to tell that that Fcar is not really an Fcar is to look through the window at the steering wheel. That does not look like a momo stearing wheel. Argh the quality of kit cars these days  andrew | |||
| BretM (Bretm)
Advanced Member Username: Bretm Post Number: 3151 Registered: 2-2001 |
An F40, powered by a flux capacitor of course. Not the early one either, the one they go to the future with that runs on garbage (methane I think they were taking out). It looks like a kit car, powered by a carbed engine with the necessary fake intercoolers etc. to convince all that it is in fact real. | |||
| Barney Guzzo (Trinacria)
New member Username: Trinacria Post Number: 46 Registered: 8-2002 |
1983 Ferrari Pasta Machine | |||
| Randy (Schatten)
Member Username: Schatten Post Number: 517 Registered: 4-2001 |
okay how about this one... shouldn't be that difficult.  | |||
| BretM (Bretm)
Advanced Member Username: Bretm Post Number: 3135 Registered: 2-2001 |
It looks like il Ferrari 'El Camino'. I like Zagato, but what the hell were they thinking. | |||
| Wade R Nunez (308nut)
New member Username: 308nut Post Number: 38 Registered: 7-2002 |
Check this one out, how many people think it resembles the new Enzo a bit, this car was built in 1992 on a testarossa chassis Wade  | |||
| L. Wayne Ausbrooks (Lwausbrooks)
Member Username: Lwausbrooks Post Number: 568 Registered: 8-2002 |
Rosso Rubino | |||
| Tenney (Tenney)
Member Username: Tenney Post Number: 289 Registered: 2-2001 |
Wayne Man delivers the goods once again. Good thing for us he's picked up a Ferrari book or two (when not counting cards in Vegas?) in his day. Think that Lusso is Rosso Barchetta. Wayne? | |||
| Tenney (Tenney)
Member Username: Tenney Post Number: 288 Registered: 2-2001 |
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| Rob Lay (Rob328gts)
Board Administrator Username: Rob328gts Post Number: 2979 Registered: 12-2000 |
The Lusso is some type of Maroon, but I don't know the exact color code. I think this color is common on the Lusso's and Californias of the time. I like the color much, but the Lusso is just one of the bests in any color. | |||
| DES (Sickspeed)
Junior Member Username: Sickspeed Post Number: 189 Registered: 8-2002 |
Andrew, i agree, the red, in my opinion, is the best part of the car... maybe this is my youth saying this, but the car just doesn't appeal to me... it looks like... i don't know, like some old family members' :::gasp::: Chevy...! (OMG, i'm locking the door, someone's definitely gonna hit me...) | |||
| Andrew (Mrrou)
Member Username: Mrrou Post Number: 446 Registered: 3-2002 |
Rob what kind of red is on that Fcar? It is stunning! Andrew | |||
| Dr. I. M. Ibrahim (Coachi)
Junior Member Username: Coachi Post Number: 155 Registered: 5-2002 |
ugly white ferrari is a 400-412...prostituted to look like that...ugh | |||
| Jim E (Jimpo1)
Intermediate Member Username: Jimpo1 Post Number: 1054 Registered: 7-2001 |
That ugly white Ferrari is advertised in the most recent Forza. I honestly thought it was a misprint and was an RX7 with bad bodywork. | |||
| Rob Lay (Rob328gts)
Board Administrator Username: Rob328gts Post Number: 2972 Registered: 12-2000 |
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| wm hart (Whart)
Member Username: Whart Post Number: 643 Registered: 12-2001 |
Can anybody post a pic of the Lusso for DES so he can see what it looks like? It is a truly beautiful car, some say the most beautiful of all F-cars, and has that funky instrument location, but imho, just not enough ommmph.(and yes, i agree, L. Wayne is very, very good, when do we get the dental records for the good Dr., Wayne?) | |||
| Francisco J. Quinones (Frankie)
Junior Member Username: Frankie Post Number: 104 Registered: 8-2002 |
WOW Wayne impressive is the word,i'll take a book as well please. well ...how much per volume?  s/n 7979 hurts mah eyes | |||
| Andrew (Mrrou)
Member Username: Mrrou Post Number: 444 Registered: 3-2002 |
Rob that looks like a Porsche...on a good day (sorry P owners) hehe Andrew | |||
| Horsefly (Arlie)
Member Username: Arlie Post Number: 501 Registered: 5-2002 |
After a second look, that first car could be the long lost Dodge Daytona Superbird Ferrari, but I think it is missing the wing on the back. | |||
| L. Wayne Ausbrooks (Lwausbrooks)
Member Username: Lwausbrooks Post Number: 565 Registered: 8-2002 |
Mitch, you got it. It's due out next summer. By the way, you never answered me on the other thread. Was your friend with the 250 TR David Love? | |||
| Mitchel DeFrancis (4re308)
Member Username: 4re308 Post Number: 743 Registered: 6-2001 |
WOW, those are 2 Ferraris I have never seen!! Wayne, promise me a signed copy when you do write a historical book about Ferraris!! You are the MAN! | |||
| Pat Pasqualini (Enzo)
Junior Member Username: Enzo Post Number: 108 Registered: 2-2002 |
And I thought it was a 95% complete 308 kit | |||
| Hubert Otlik (Hugh)
Member Username: Hugh Post Number: 399 Registered: 1-2002 |
arlie- no, it's a 250 gto rebodied into a c5 vette, then back to a 330 gt 2+2, then the s/n was lost, and now it's a rx7, scagletti cut; 9 mil, easy. | |||
| Horsefly (Arlie)
Member Username: Arlie Post Number: 500 Registered: 5-2002 |
I know that one Rob. It's a Big Tex utility trailer that was rebodied by Scaglietti to look like a Mazda RX-7. | |||
| Rob Lay (Rob328gts)
Board Administrator Username: Rob328gts Post Number: 2969 Registered: 12-2000 |
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| DES (Sickspeed)
Junior Member Username: Sickspeed Post Number: 175 Registered: 8-2002 |
L. Wayne... ...you're wrong, it's a GT Lusso Berlinetta, damnit...! Seriously, i'm not really sure what words to use, to express just how impressive that is... i guess i should just say, "hey, Wayne, that's impressive", right...? That just blows me away... | |||
| Pat Pasqualini (Enzo)
Junior Member Username: Enzo Post Number: 107 Registered: 2-2002 |
It almost reminds me of a Buick Reatta (I said almost) | |||
| William Huber (Solipsist)
Member Username: Solipsist Post Number: 517 Registered: 9-2001 |
Not to distasteful, but that looks like a 1st Gen. MAZDA RX7. Maybe Rob can use it in his next SCCA Spec RX7 race. | |||
| TomD (Tifosi)
Intermediate Member Username: Tifosi Post Number: 2044 Registered: 9-2001 |
looks like the same dealer - kinda looks like an rx7 - rob??? | |||
| Andrew Menasce (Amenasce)
Member Username: Amenasce Post Number: 419 Registered: 10-2001 |
Currently for sale in Beverly Hills with this ugly duck 1983 FERRARI 400i MEERA S PROTOTYPE, PEARLESCENT GREY WITH BLUE LEATHER, INCREDIBLE ONE-OFF PROTOTYPE DESIGNED BY MICHELOTTI FOR FERRARI WITH 4,394 ORIGINAL KILOMETERS. ORIGINALLY SUPPLIED TO THE HILTON FAMILY, OF HOTEL FAME, IT HAS BEEN IN PRIVATE COLLECTIONS SINCE NEW. IT FEATURES SUCH FUTURISTIC DETAILS AS CLOSED CIRCUIT TV & CAMERA IN PLACE OF THE REAR VIEW MIRROR, WIPERS ON ALL FOUR SIDES OF THE CAR FOR ENHANCED VISION UNDER INCLEMENT CONDITIONS, TRANSLUCENT DIGITAL FACIA, SLIDING STEEL SUNROOF AND SPACE-AGE EXTERIOR DESIGN $86,500  | |||
| David J. Smith (Darkhorse512)
Junior Member Username: Darkhorse512 Post Number: 83 Registered: 10-2002 |
douuh! Wayne strikes again! | |||
| David J. Smith (Darkhorse512)
Junior Member Username: Darkhorse512 Post Number: 82 Registered: 10-2002 |
Looks like a rebodied 1965 330 GT 2+2 Carrozzeria or maybe Fantuzzi | |||
| BobD (Bobd)
Member Username: Bobd Post Number: 841 Registered: 3-2001 |
ugly...... Austin Powers-mobile | |||
| Greg Owens (Owens84qv)
Member Username: Owens84qv Post Number: 581 Registered: 10-2001 |
Wayne...very few people impress me...I'm impressed. If you haven't written a book, you are overdue. Well done. | |||
| L. Wayne Ausbrooks (Lwausbrooks)
Member Username: Lwausbrooks Post Number: 563 Registered: 8-2002 |
Okay, sorry to ruin all the fun but I couldn't resist: s/n 7979 Originally a 330 GT 2+2 rebuilt by Drogo with body similar to the one on 250 GT SWB chassis #2209 GT and previously known as the "Golden Car" for its light gold paint. Bought from the Washington, D.C. area, where it had been for sale as the "Novorro Special" by FAF Motorcars, Tucker, GA. It was later sold to a postman in Florida, and in 1985 was advertised by Forristall's GT Cars, Houston, TX at an asking price of $32,000. It was sold at the Barrett-Jackson auction in Scottsdale, AZ in 1988 for $50,000. The car is now painted red and offered for sale at Heritage Classics here in L.A. for $48,500. I saw the car at HC a few months ago and it appeared to be in very rough shape although it looks to have been cosmetically "refreshed" in these recent photos: http://www.heritageclassics.com/ferrari/66drogo/Page.html | |||
| Rob Lay (Rob328gts)
Board Administrator Username: Rob328gts Post Number: 2967 Registered: 12-2000 |
That's a proto, saw it on ebay or a dealer recently, can't remember which one though. Probably 365 2+2 proto. Maybe special made for Chinetti? | |||
| Bob Campen (Bob308gts)
Member Username: Bob308gts Post Number: 388 Registered: 9-2001 |
It must be a Ferrari Aztec, and I do hope THAT chassis got rebodied!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! | |||
| DES (Sickspeed)
Junior Member Username: Sickspeed Post Number: 171 Registered: 8-2002 |
The odds that i'm even close are slim to none, but it's worth taking the chances... this isn't a GT Lusso Berlinetta, is it...? From the 60's or 70's...? (Please, don't hit me, anyone...) (Oh, and just for the record, the car is fugly, "imho"...) | |||
| Randy (Schatten)
Member Username: Schatten Post Number: 514 Registered: 4-2001 |
Just thought I'd start off with odd/not-so-common Ferraris and see who could guess what they are. Here's one to start.  |
Ferrari what...?