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JRV (Jrvall)
Member
Username: Jrvall
Post Number: 409
Registered: 11-2002
| | Posted on Thursday, December 19, 2002 - 9:51 am: | |
>>Well because staying away from 348's is pure bull of the uninformed<<
Pretty much...there are plenty of BS Urban Legends floating around that's for sure.
Billy you crack me up with your honesty.
;-) |
billy bob (Fatbillybob)
Junior Member
Username: Fatbillybob
Post Number: 97
Registered: 8-2002
| | Posted on Thursday, December 19, 2002 - 2:11 am: | |
Well because staying away from 348's is pure bull of the uninformed. Every F car has crappy electricals. The Mon T has even more electricals! The key for the salemans is either to line his pockets with selling what he has to sell or taking some time to understand the needs and desires of the customer to assist in making the best compromises. Mondials perform on the low end of the F Car scale. Therefore when someone comes in to buy a F because the performance is the key deal but he wants to be able to carry 4 people sans top...you buy a Mondial-t. If you want minimal maintenance you buy a 328 but as these cars get older with fewer decent mechanics and lots of home DIY'er screw ups the later model cars are looking more attractive. It's the compromise. Talk to the customer and help him strike the right balance. If you get it right you'll have repeat business the next time. |
Dr.John Gober (Drjohngober)
New member
Username: Drjohngober
Post Number: 5
Registered: 11-2002
| | Posted on Wednesday, December 18, 2002 - 10:20 am: | |
I owned a 92 T-cab for three years and 20k miles. I had to replace part of the clutch (slave cylinder) and that was about it. The top was difficult to put up and keep from leaking, but it was a great car to own. The back seat was nice ( my 7 year old loved it). I never had any of the electrical gremlins that you hear about. I would stay away from the older mondials though. |
89TCab (Jmg)
Member
Username: Jmg
Post Number: 339
Registered: 9-2001
| | Posted on Wednesday, December 18, 2002 - 2:01 am: | |
Tis true brother Monk (and that does roll off the tongue). I was fortunate enough to drive both a 3.2 and a T for a while before I had to purchase one. (Makes me wonder where the "Ferrari assholes" are as everyone I met before purchase was overboard nice to me. Anyhow...) Power and comfort won me over. The feel of the T was definitely faster (and the 3.2 I drove had a Tubi, the T did not) and I found that my posterior did not feel as comforted after 15 mins in the previous model. Maybe I have a weird shaped ass? (Please don't answer that...) In any case, I always encourage folks to look at both models...usually, they go for the body style they like best. Good luck with the coupe search...if you can find a way to wrestle Allan (89TCoupe) out of his, you will definitely be loving life... |
djmonk (Davem)
Junior Member
Username: Davem
Post Number: 164
Registered: 1-2002
| | Posted on Tuesday, December 17, 2002 - 9:15 pm: | |
Brother JMG. (Kinda rolls off the tongue, well not quite!) Beautiful T- cab. you have! My favorite color too, i did debate getting a T but im a coupe kinda guy. Did not find one that worked for me, rare as they are.
Interesting though is how the the last 328's are close in price to if not equal to early 348's, whereas the T model is much more than a 3.2.
Making the 3.2 a great bargain in the Ferrari world.(My oxymoron statement of the day!)
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djmonk (Davem)
Junior Member
Username: Davem
Post Number: 163
Registered: 1-2002
| | Posted on Tuesday, December 17, 2002 - 9:14 pm: | |
Brother JMG. (Kinda rolls off the tongue, well not quite!) Beautiful T- cab. you have! My favorite color too, i did debate getting a T but im a coupe kinda guy. Did not find one that worked for me, rare as they are.
Interesting though is how the the last 328's are close in price to if not equal to early 348's, whereas the T model is much more than a 3.2.
Making the 3.2 a great bargain in the Ferrari world.(My oxymoron statement of the day!
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Dr. Winston Watson (Drwatson)
New member
Username: Drwatson
Post Number: 4
Registered: 12-2002
| | Posted on Tuesday, December 17, 2002 - 6:58 pm: | |
Hello Gentleman, I owned a Mondial T and loved every mile I put on her. I never thought she would be everything in every situation, but a truly sporty fun car to drive. And maybe it was just me, however the Ladies seemed to have liked her better than my newest Ferrari.
Regards, WW |
Frank Parker (Parkerfe)
Intermediate Member
Username: Parkerfe
Post Number: 1617
Registered: 9-2001
| | Posted on Tuesday, December 17, 2002 - 4:46 pm: | |
I traded my Spider for a BB512i even. |
Bak-a-lack-a Bak-a-lacka-lacka ! (Chris_n_chicago)
Junior Member
Username: Chris_n_chicago
Post Number: 119
Registered: 3-2002
| | Posted on Tuesday, December 17, 2002 - 3:39 pm: | |
Frank did you sell your Spyder ? |
89TCab (Jmg)
Member
Username: Jmg
Post Number: 337
Registered: 9-2001
| | Posted on Tuesday, December 17, 2002 - 12:28 pm: | |
With all apologies to my fellow Mondial owners, all of whom I consider brethern. The T included many "modern car" features that the previous models lacked such as adjustable suspension, power steering, ABS (though was avail with 87+ 3.2s) that when combined with the most powerful engine of the line, tends to get the nod on suggested ownership.
I often wonder if I have been lucky with my T cabs or it simply has an unwarranted bad rep for reliability.
- JMG |
Frank Parker (Parkerfe)
Intermediate Member
Username: Parkerfe
Post Number: 1610
Registered: 9-2001
| | Posted on Tuesday, December 17, 2002 - 11:02 am: | |
My 348 Spider was a great car. A lot of the bad rep the car got also came from the lame statement made by that bozo Montezumela as he took over the helm at Ferrari. He claimed his personal 348 was a bad car, but I suspect he was just paving the way to claim how good he was for Ferrari as he already knew the 355 would soon be out as it was already in the testing phase. He of course took credit for the 355. While Ferraris have gotten better since he took over, they have lost some of their romance by becoming a lot like other high line sports cars. While once owned only by true enthusiast, now a lot of people buy the cars to be seen in or to brag that they own one. That's why you see so many low mileage cars out there for sale. The thrill of ownership wanes quickly for a non-enthusiast and he sells the car. |
David C. (Worth_it)
New member
Username: Worth_it
Post Number: 35
Registered: 10-2002
| | Posted on Tuesday, December 17, 2002 - 10:41 am: | |
I am still fairly new here and I did a lot of research before I purchased my 348 Spyder - IMHO the 348's received a bad reputation because of the early production cars 89-91 or so. As time went on the car received a lot of improvements. By the end of the run the car's bugs had been worked out. Even the early cars have received many of the mods over the years making them stronger also.
The same logic applies to the Mondial T - Dave T. reason for going with the 328 base Mondial supports this. He wanted the last version of the tried and true 328 not the first version of the 348.
Many owners here will tell you how good the 348 is, expecially a well maintained early car and especially the later years 93-95.
Remember when Mercedes intoduced the 98 ML320 - everyone tore it apart over the first year. After that year they fixed a bunch and now you don't hear anything negative. I know this is a mass produced car but trying to make a decent analogy.
Sorry for the long reply. Just my opinion. |
Charles Barton (Airbarton)
Junior Member
Username: Airbarton
Post Number: 87
Registered: 11-2002
| | Posted on Tuesday, December 17, 2002 - 10:29 am: | |
Wade, I have a 90 348 that I have no big problems with. If your going to get one get the newest one you can. Ferrari solved many of the problems that plagued the early models when they came out with later models. Let me tell you that even with the cars quirks it is an awsome machine to own, I love it! |
djmonk (Davem)
Junior Member
Username: Davem
Post Number: 161
Registered: 1-2002
| | Posted on Tuesday, December 17, 2002 - 10:18 am: | |
Great question Wade, especially when most 'T' models are 89's.
I just bought a late 88 Mondial 3.2 coupe partly based on the flipside to this debate that the last 328's are the best. |
Wade R Nunez (308nut)
Junior Member
Username: 308nut
Post Number: 53
Registered: 7-2002
| | Posted on Tuesday, December 17, 2002 - 10:12 am: | |
I had a question sent to me by one of my customers wanting to buy a Ferrari, he asked this " from what I understand and see around the country, a lot of people are suggesting to stay away from the 348, but , when I say my other choice is a Mondail they tell me that the only one to get is the Mondial T. . Now don't they have the same engine and mostly the same electronics, my question is why is one so good and the other so bad when they are basically the same"? I am having a tough time giving him an accurate answer. What do some of you think.
Wade
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