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Andrew (Enzo250gto)
Junior Member Username: Enzo250gto
Post Number: 55 Registered: 2-2002
| Posted on Thursday, December 19, 2002 - 12:37 pm: | |
There is more to downforce than just adding a wing. Just because your throw and big wing on the back doesn't mean you are creating downforce. The 360 already had spent more time in a wind tunnel than any other car on the road (and I'm guessing this wing spent zero hours). If Ferrari's designers and engineers thought a wing was needed they would have added one. Also you have no idea what the air is like around that area of the car (unless you can find pictures of it in the wind tunnel with the top down) which could mean that the air in that area is not entirely stable. I'm willing to bet this wing only creates more drag. But as someone noted below do you really race this? Personally I think the person that did this has no taste but just likes to really be noticed and didn't think a Modena was enough to achieve this, so he/she added this crap that says, "Look I'm a dumbass and I really don't know anything about cars." |
Ron Dallas (328infoseeker)
Junior Member Username: 328infoseeker
Post Number: 124 Registered: 12-2000
| Posted on Wednesday, December 18, 2002 - 7:26 pm: | |
I seem to remember seeing the Ferrari GT1 F50 run a few years ago that had a factory wing just like the one in the picture. |
Ken (Allyn)
Member Username: Allyn
Post Number: 599 Registered: 10-2001
| Posted on Wednesday, December 18, 2002 - 6:35 pm: | |
The more I think about it, the more I think that's held on by velcro and it was someone's idea of a 'cool thing' for the show. |
Ron Thomas (Ronsupercar)
Member Username: Ronsupercar
Post Number: 397 Registered: 5-2002
| Posted on Wednesday, December 18, 2002 - 3:51 pm: | |
Gentalmen: Under a high rate of speed, wouldn't the downforce of that rear spoiler bend and rip off if not connected properly?? That looks like poor planning to me. |
Andrew (Mrrou)
Member Username: Mrrou
Post Number: 476 Registered: 3-2002
| Posted on Wednesday, December 18, 2002 - 3:25 pm: | |
DB if u wanna customize ur ride and make it ghetto fabolous..get a honda. IM surprised that that POS 360 doesnt have a big thing on the windshield that says HONDA MADE |
D B (Threesixty)
Junior Member Username: Threesixty
Post Number: 108 Registered: 8-2002
| Posted on Wednesday, December 18, 2002 - 1:16 pm: | |
I might not like it, but it's his car. He made the money to buy, he can do what he likes to it. If everyone did the same thing the world would be a boring place... |
Andreas Forrer (Tifosi12)
Junior Member Username: Tifosi12
Post Number: 173 Registered: 10-2002
| Posted on Wednesday, December 18, 2002 - 1:12 pm: | |
Granted, that the wing creates additional downforce. But it is a spider! So, do you really think the wing is necessary? I mean aren't you being 'sucked' out of the cockpit before you reach the speeds, where you'd actually need the additional downforce? Everybody to his/her own, but a spider for me was all about cruisin' along the ocean front. If you want to go racin', well, get a berlinetta and all the wings you think you need. |
No! (Racer001)
New member Username: Racer001
Post Number: 5 Registered: 12-2002
| Posted on Wednesday, December 18, 2002 - 12:59 pm: | |
Undertray or not, a wing will still make downforce... I don't see what the big deal is... besides it looking a bit overdone... |
Andrew (Mrrou)
Member Username: Mrrou
Post Number: 472 Registered: 3-2002
| Posted on Wednesday, December 18, 2002 - 12:21 pm: | |
DES the feelings I have are emotionally charged. They come from my heart. If someone puts a hideus wing like that on a ferrari. Then in my opinion, they don't deserve to the ferrari and if it was upto me, the ferrari will be desecrated.
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Willis Huang (Willis360)
Intermediate Member Username: Willis360
Post Number: 1060 Registered: 8-2001
| Posted on Wednesday, December 18, 2002 - 11:51 am: | |
Factory built 360GT racers have wings. |
Tim N (Timn88)
Intermediate Member Username: Timn88
Post Number: 1776 Registered: 6-2001
| Posted on Wednesday, December 18, 2002 - 11:36 am: | |
James- that is true, but 360 challenge drivers were complaining, saying that it needed a wing but ferrari was too anti-wing because of all the work they put into the under body tray. |
DES (Sickspeed)
Member Username: Sickspeed
Post Number: 314 Registered: 8-2002
| Posted on Wednesday, December 18, 2002 - 11:15 am: | |
Now what James said makes sense... he criticized the guy, but first told us why- and it had nothing to do with his opinion, it was all fact... |
James Angle (Jimangle)
New member Username: Jimangle
Post Number: 14 Registered: 9-2002
| Posted on Wednesday, December 18, 2002 - 11:01 am: | |
That cars undercarriage is designed to create a vacuum underneath the car for downforce (hence the no need for a rear spoiler), but since the guy installed a rear exhaust spoiler (what's the point?) I guess he just negated the effect. MORON. |
DES (Sickspeed)
Member Username: Sickspeed
Post Number: 311 Registered: 8-2002
| Posted on Wednesday, December 18, 2002 - 9:12 am: | |
LOL, Frank... thanks, Dan... |
Ken (Allyn)
Member Username: Allyn
Post Number: 593 Registered: 10-2001
| Posted on Wednesday, December 18, 2002 - 8:12 am: | |
It's a Twilight Zone thing. This guy captured a leprechan and got one wish. He wished for a new Ferrari...but as these things usually go, he's stuck with a Ferrari that will embarass him everywhere he goes. |
Andrew Menasce (Amenasce)
Member Username: Amenasce
Post Number: 428 Registered: 10-2001
| Posted on Wednesday, December 18, 2002 - 6:25 am: | |
uughh ! that thing is ugly .We have to understand him though, he had to wait 3 years to get his 360 Spider , he got insane ! |
Frank K Lipinski (Kaz)
Junior Member Username: Kaz
Post Number: 63 Registered: 11-2002
| Posted on Wednesday, December 18, 2002 - 5:47 am: | |
Only buy it if they include the free jacket  |
Dan (Bobafett)
Junior Member Username: Bobafett
Post Number: 143 Registered: 9-2002
| Posted on Wednesday, December 18, 2002 - 4:22 am: | |
I gotta respect DES for standing up here, and hey, so long as it's your car, why do you care? Way to go, DES. --Dan |
DES (Sickspeed)
Member Username: Sickspeed
Post Number: 308 Registered: 8-2002
| Posted on Wednesday, December 18, 2002 - 2:46 am: | |
Andrew, i understand your passion for not wanting to see someone adorn a Ferrari with something that most agree doesn't belong, but... ...what if your neighbor (or you, when you get it) had his 550 keyed by someone who doesn't like red Ferraris with black leather...? If that happened to your neighbor, would you say, "hey, he got what he deserved"...? If it happened to you, would you just chalk it up to 'someone just didn't like it' and not be mad...? i think you'd be pretty heated... but it just goes along the same lines as this... Whoever slapped that wing on there, likes it... thinks it belongs there or thinks it looks nice there... who are we to tell him he's wrong or he's not a true enthusiast 'cause he added an extra part to his car...? Maybe he knows more than the rest of us (except L. Wayne) about Ferraris... maybe he knows something we don't and his wing signifies the ultimate in Ferrari enthusiasm, but we're just too blind to see how or why...? You see what i'm getting at...? (Oh, and by the way, just for the record, i don't really have a problem with the rims... they actually fit pretty well with the rest of the car, especially the changes made to the rear...) |
Andrew (Mrrou)
Member Username: Mrrou
Post Number: 468 Registered: 3-2002
| Posted on Wednesday, December 18, 2002 - 12:29 am: | |
DES i hate to sound like this, but your wrong. that car is molested ..If i saw that 360 in the street with that wing and those stupid rims i would have someone key it. Sorry with that wing i dont see a ferrari..i see a ferrari waiting to get out from under the POS that surrounds it. |
Jordan Witherspoon (Jordan747_400)
New member Username: Jordan747_400
Post Number: 17 Registered: 12-2002
| Posted on Tuesday, December 17, 2002 - 11:10 pm: | |
NOOO! I never thought they would rice my ferrari That is just rediculous...I have a strong antipathy for rice rods |
John (Modenaf1fan)
New member Username: Modenaf1fan
Post Number: 16 Registered: 11-2002
| Posted on Tuesday, December 17, 2002 - 11:03 pm: | |
that wing gives the car an extra 60hp! |
Tim N (Timn88)
Intermediate Member Username: Timn88
Post Number: 1773 Registered: 6-2001
| Posted on Tuesday, December 17, 2002 - 11:02 pm: | |
Its his car, if he wants that stuff on it who are we to judge? |
DES (Sickspeed)
Member Username: Sickspeed
Post Number: 305 Registered: 8-2002
| Posted on Tuesday, December 17, 2002 - 10:41 pm: | |
LOL, Monk, if i had a wing on the back of my Sentra... ah, forget it, we all know i'm just gonna say something cheesy, anyway... Scotty, there's an issue of Playboy where one of the models poses in a rain suit... (ok, so there's not, but still, i bet there is and from there, you know what point i'm trying to make). |
Markus Lex (Playersmarkus)
New member Username: Playersmarkus
Post Number: 28 Registered: 10-2002
| Posted on Tuesday, December 17, 2002 - 10:33 pm: | |
Hey Hey, stop making fun of Rob's Ferrari ;o) Markus Playersrun.com |
Daniel B Reese MD (Dbr328gtb)
Junior Member Username: Dbr328gtb
Post Number: 132 Registered: 5-2001
| Posted on Tuesday, December 17, 2002 - 9:44 pm: | |
Alright, dont shoot me but look at the second picture. I think the new front bumper with the center cut- out looks much better than the original with just two nostrils. What do you think? |
Scotty (Pzerowaster)
Junior Member Username: Pzerowaster
Post Number: 59 Registered: 10-2002
| Posted on Tuesday, December 17, 2002 - 9:32 pm: | |
LOFL! I think the steak dinner (funny stuff, Arlie) would look better on the back of the 360. Ooffff.... sure DES, I agree 100%, to each his own and all dat, but that wizzing is like throwing a plastic rain suit on a supermodel. But hey, things like that can be removed. Sweeeeeeeeeet!! But one will need some Bondo... Jeeez, I can only imagine the vision of someone leaning on an electric drill, wailing away on the engine cover of that beautiful 360 in preperation for the mongoid wing installation...oooh, THE PAIN!!! |
djmonk (Davem)
Junior Member Username: Davem
Post Number: 165 Registered: 1-2002
| Posted on Tuesday, December 17, 2002 - 9:27 pm: | |
So DES what your trying to say is you have that same wing on your Sentra!? Its ok....really |
DES (Sickspeed)
Member Username: Sickspeed
Post Number: 295 Registered: 8-2002
| Posted on Tuesday, December 17, 2002 - 7:00 pm: | |
Arlie: i, for one, would sever several digits from several random fingers before i'd let someone put long horns on my Ferrari, if i owned one- i'm just not into that. I'm not saying this Ferrari looks good, i think the spoiler, or wing as you guys call it, is... what's the word my father used to use... um, TACKY...! that's it, tacky... But that doesn't make the owner any less of an aficionado- it's just his preference to do what he pleases... agreed...? |
william speer (Wspeer)
Junior Member Username: Wspeer
Post Number: 111 Registered: 8-2002
| Posted on Tuesday, December 17, 2002 - 4:28 pm: | |
i thought it added a touch of class to the 400ia cabriolet |
Horsefly (Arlie)
Member Username: Arlie
Post Number: 527 Registered: 5-2002
| Posted on Tuesday, December 17, 2002 - 4:27 pm: | |
A nice Razorback hog hood ornament I can understand, but a LONGHORN??? |
william speer (Wspeer)
Junior Member Username: Wspeer
Post Number: 109 Registered: 8-2002
| Posted on Tuesday, December 17, 2002 - 4:25 pm: | |
hey, wait! there was a 400ia with longhorns on the hood in one of the ferrari mags earlier this year. it was actually making me reconsider placing them on my car. |
Horsefly (Arlie)
Member Username: Arlie
Post Number: 526 Registered: 5-2002
| Posted on Tuesday, December 17, 2002 - 4:19 pm: | |
DES, I like the look of a steak dinner, but who wants to bolt one onto the back of their Ferrari. What next, longhorn Texas steer horns on the front hood? |
DES (Sickspeed)
Member Username: Sickspeed
Post Number: 290 Registered: 8-2002
| Posted on Tuesday, December 17, 2002 - 4:00 pm: | |
Arlie: a wing that may not suit your tastes does not define whether the person attaching the wing is an enthusiast. Even if said individual understands aerodynamics and down force, etc, s/he may like the look of the wing. Some real, true enthusiast out there owns the 330 GT that Randy posted a pic of, in his 'Name That Ferrari!' thread and i think the entire car is fugly... to each his own- style does not make the enthusiast, the enthusiast makes her/his own style. |
Marq J Ruben (Qferrari)
Junior Member Username: Qferrari
Post Number: 152 Registered: 2-2002
| Posted on Tuesday, December 17, 2002 - 3:42 pm: | |
Actually, its an abomination that has already happened!!
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Matt Lemus (Mlemus)
Intermediate Member Username: Mlemus
Post Number: 1091 Registered: 8-2002
| Posted on Tuesday, December 17, 2002 - 3:40 pm: | |
Arlie, That is a personal liability lawsuit waiting to happen M |
Horsefly (Arlie)
Member Username: Arlie
Post Number: 525 Registered: 5-2002
| Posted on Tuesday, December 17, 2002 - 3:38 pm: | |
Hey Matt, can't you just see that wing-thing snapping off the car at high speed then flying away like a stealth bomber over some little old lady's house. I'm sure the air force would get a call about it. |
Matt Lemus (Mlemus)
Intermediate Member Username: Mlemus
Post Number: 1088 Registered: 8-2002
| Posted on Tuesday, December 17, 2002 - 3:34 pm: | |
Arlie, I agreed with you. Most mods like that are created by some 17 year old who took some tracing paper to a import magazine without any idea about downforce, areodynamics, suspensions or just plain appearance |
Horsefly (Arlie)
Member Username: Arlie
Post Number: 522 Registered: 5-2002
| Posted on Tuesday, December 17, 2002 - 3:24 pm: | |
And you guys had the nerve to razz me when I dared to suggest that most newer Ferraris were bought by rich guys who were not TRUE Ferrari enthusiasts. What true Ferrari enthusiast would add some 2 bit wing-thing to the back of his car like that? That thing looks like it would fold up with 50 pounds of down force.
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Matt Lemus (Mlemus)
Intermediate Member Username: Mlemus
Post Number: 1084 Registered: 8-2002
| Posted on Tuesday, December 17, 2002 - 3:01 pm: | |
LMAO jacket boy! |
DES (Sickspeed)
Member Username: Sickspeed
Post Number: 278 Registered: 8-2002
| Posted on Tuesday, December 17, 2002 - 2:59 pm: | |
Yo, word up, Matt, fo' sheezy... But yo, on the real, though, son... what's the dilly with gizhetto rizeference...? |
Matt Lemus (Mlemus)
Intermediate Member Username: Mlemus
Post Number: 1082 Registered: 8-2002
| Posted on Tuesday, December 17, 2002 - 2:58 pm: | |
I think we all have been watching too much Discovery Channel and MTV cribs.... Word Dawg |
DES (Sickspeed)
Member Username: Sickspeed
Post Number: 276 Registered: 8-2002
| Posted on Tuesday, December 17, 2002 - 2:56 pm: | |
Matt & Todd: i understand all of that, but i'm confused because why say it's been ghetto-ized when no one in the ghetto can afford to do those things to a car...? All the "ricers" (another not-so-friendly term) that i know or see, live in areas outside of the ghetto... Anyone with any amount of "bling bling" lives outside of the ghetto... |
Todd (Tkrefeld)
Junior Member Username: Tkrefeld
Post Number: 95 Registered: 11-2001
| Posted on Tuesday, December 17, 2002 - 2:42 pm: | |
DES, Often ghetto-ization refers to ricing in many parts. Hang glider wing, coffee can exhaust, neon lights, loud stereo(-unbalanced components maily bass), primered only car, no rear view mirror ect... Picture a house from the "ghetto" or "projects" |
Matt Lemus (Mlemus)
Intermediate Member Username: Mlemus
Post Number: 1078 Registered: 8-2002
| Posted on Tuesday, December 17, 2002 - 2:36 pm: | |
DES, The car needs a certain "Bling Bling" factor |
DES (Sickspeed)
Member Username: Sickspeed
Post Number: 271 Registered: 8-2002
| Posted on Tuesday, December 17, 2002 - 2:33 pm: | |
i can't say i'm fond of the wing, but i'd take the car, any day... As far as this being a "ghetto-ization"... i'm not sure what that means... what's a "ghetto-ization"...? |
Patrick (Patrickr)
Junior Member Username: Patrickr
Post Number: 78 Registered: 4-2002
| Posted on Tuesday, December 17, 2002 - 2:27 pm: | |
Ehh... it would look pretty respectable if they would lose that damn wing! Patrick |
Massimiliano Frasca (Massimo)
New member Username: Massimo
Post Number: 9 Registered: 11-2002
| Posted on Tuesday, December 17, 2002 - 2:24 pm: | |
We should set up a fund and save these Ferraris. Please mail all donations to.... |
BretM (Bretm)
Advanced Member Username: Bretm
Post Number: 3154 Registered: 2-2001
| Posted on Tuesday, December 17, 2002 - 2:19 pm: | |
Ghetto Fabulous, lol. The 360 has been the victim of numerous ghetto-izations, the first Ferrari I can think of to suffer such a fate. Must have been that booming economy it was born into. |
Willis Huang (Willis360)
Intermediate Member Username: Willis360
Post Number: 1059 Registered: 8-2001
| Posted on Tuesday, December 17, 2002 - 2:02 pm: | |
You know, if they want to put a proper wing on it, they should have used the wing from the 360GT race car. |
Ron Thomas (Ronsupercar)
Member Username: Ronsupercar
Post Number: 395 Registered: 5-2002
| Posted on Tuesday, December 17, 2002 - 1:52 pm: | |
http://www.overboost.com/pix.asp?image=./images/1006/full/DSCN6809.jpg Here's another angle. |
Ron Thomas (Ronsupercar)
Member Username: Ronsupercar
Post Number: 394 Registered: 5-2002
| Posted on Tuesday, December 17, 2002 - 1:50 pm: | |
http://www.overboost.com/pix.asp?image=./images/1006/full/DSCN6811.jpg Need I say more! |