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Bruno (Originalsinner)
Member
Username: Originalsinner
Post Number: 817
Registered: 5-2002
| | Posted on Sunday, December 22, 2002 - 3:05 pm: | |
What???? |
Frank Parker (Parkerfe)
Intermediate Member
Username: Parkerfe
Post Number: 1602
Registered: 9-2001
| | Posted on Saturday, December 21, 2002 - 7:34 am: | |
Bruno, that is an MSRP guide that list the price of what the cars sold for when new. So what one sells for now is irrelevant. |
Bruno (Originalsinner)
Member
Username: Originalsinner
Post Number: 811
Registered: 5-2002
| | Posted on Friday, December 20, 2002 - 5:54 pm: | |
Remember this link is not based on asking prices,speculation,etc. It is based on actual sale results.Regardless ,if one disagrees or agrees with the pricing quoted, it is what the cars are doing at the present time.
It's ugly. |
Bruno (Originalsinner)
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Username: Originalsinner
Post Number: 810
Registered: 5-2002
| | Posted on Friday, December 20, 2002 - 5:51 pm: | |
Glad u liked it Doody. |
Bruno (Originalsinner)
Member
Username: Originalsinner
Post Number: 809
Registered: 5-2002
| | Posted on Friday, December 20, 2002 - 5:51 pm: | |
David,I find that the cars are selling very close to the numbers posted by this link or less.If the dealer wont budge, "If it's not a Ferrari dealer I wouldnt buy from him anyway" Walk.There are plenty of private party sales out there. These cars are depressed right now.It's a pure buyers market. |
Mr. Doody (Doody)
Member
Username: Doody
Post Number: 636
Registered: 11-2001
| | Posted on Friday, December 20, 2002 - 3:20 pm: | |
what a great resource! it only goes up to MY 1994, but that's probably why the numbers are fairly accurate.
thanks for the link, bruno.
doody! |
David S (Djs308)
New member
Username: Djs308
Post Number: 16
Registered: 9-2002
| | Posted on Thursday, December 19, 2002 - 10:26 pm: | |
Jim,
In one instance the 308 I saw had an off-color interior, dings all over, gasket leaks, broken bonnet struts, etc. I got estimates to repair it and I felt that adding the cost to the buying price would have pushed it out of my reach. I didn't want to buy at a premium knowing that the car needed a lot of work. I don''t expect perfection from a 17 year old Ferrari, but the price, in my opinion should have been closer to book value considering its condition. The seller said to me that you won't find many 308's in better condition for anywhere near his price and he would not lower it one penny. I said sorry, but I'm passing on it. It turns out, the car sat for an additional 4 months (6 before I saw it) so a lot of people were turned off by it. |
Jim Schad (Jim_schad)
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Username: Jim_schad
Post Number: 595
Registered: 7-2002
| | Posted on Thursday, December 19, 2002 - 9:49 pm: | |
It is worth what someone will pay. If you want it then buy it unless the price is ridiculous. If you can wait to find the deal of the century then wait. If you found exactly what you are looking for then is it worth it to pay a bit extra to get it?
I am a cheap bastard and try to get the best deal I can and I don't own a fcar because of it. These are emotional cars and people won't "give" them away. Dealers will try to make a profit, but they have to to stay in biz.
It is all relative. I know this doesn't help you, but it boils down to how bad you want it vs how bad he wants to sell it. |
David S (Djs308)
New member
Username: Djs308
Post Number: 13
Registered: 9-2002
| | Posted on Thursday, December 19, 2002 - 9:40 pm: | |
OK, let's take it a step further... How should one use this kind of pricing information? Say, for example, someone (OK, me) is in the market to buy a 308 GTSi. And say for example, an independent dealer has one for sale that the buyer has checked out and wants to buy. Now, let's say the dealer's asking price is $4-5K ABOVE what the "book" value says it is worth.
What should be the buyer's next move? Tell the guy to lower his price by $5K or else? What if he doesn't budge by even 1 cent? How should one continue negotiating with such a dealer, or is it better to walk away and let 'em try to rip off someone else who may not know the "book" value.
Any ideas, advice, please!! By the way, in my case, I walked away.... |
Bruno (Originalsinner)
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Username: Originalsinner
Post Number: 835
Registered: 5-2002
| | Posted on Wednesday, December 18, 2002 - 1:16 pm: | |
could just mean a 82 boxer hasnt sold in a while to create a listing??? |
Frank Parker (Parkerfe)
Intermediate Member
Username: Parkerfe
Post Number: 1618
Registered: 9-2001
| | Posted on Wednesday, December 18, 2002 - 12:10 pm: | |
Although both the 1982 400 and 1982 Boxer were gray market cars, the 1982 400 is listed while the 1982 Boxer is not. |
Rob Lay (Rob328gts)
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Username: Rob328gts
Post Number: 3032
Registered: 12-2000
| | Posted on Wednesday, December 18, 2002 - 11:42 am: | |
Good site! I looked up about 20 and agreed with all of them within $2,000. |
Bruno (Originalsinner)
Member
Username: Originalsinner
Post Number: 834
Registered: 5-2002
| | Posted on Wednesday, December 18, 2002 - 11:17 am: | |
Things you can find on the net when you are BORED!!! |
Bruno (Originalsinner)
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Username: Originalsinner
Post Number: 833
Registered: 5-2002
| | Posted on Wednesday, December 18, 2002 - 11:16 am: | |
1979 FERRARI 308 GTB Dsp/HP Eng Fair Good Exc Show Loan
COUPE (2,089 mfg) 1976-79 3.0/240 V8 21,000 24,000 27,000 29,000 S 22,000
example with horsepower and production numbers. |
Bruno (Originalsinner)
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Username: Originalsinner
Post Number: 832
Registered: 5-2002
| | Posted on Wednesday, December 18, 2002 - 11:13 am: | |
Ya it's pretty accurate.It's based on selling prices not asking.It's got 4 condition ranges and it gives you horsepower and production numbers in some instances. |
Greg Rodgers (Joechristmas)
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Username: Joechristmas
Post Number: 548
Registered: 3-2001
| | Posted on Wednesday, December 18, 2002 - 11:11 am: | |
Thanks for the link. It is a great site. I looked up all of my cars. Man my 88' Esprit is doing well. Thanks. |
Bruno (Originalsinner)
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Username: Originalsinner
Post Number: 831
Registered: 5-2002
| | Posted on Wednesday, December 18, 2002 - 10:56 am: | |
Seems the carbed 308's are doing better than the early injected cars. |
Bruno (Originalsinner)
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Username: Originalsinner
Post Number: 830
Registered: 5-2002
| | Posted on Wednesday, December 18, 2002 - 10:54 am: | |
example.
1989 FERRARI 328 GTS Dsp/HP Eng Fair Good Exc Show Loan
SPYDER 3.2/270 V8 41,000 46,000 54,000 62,000 41,000
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Bruno (Originalsinner)
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Username: Originalsinner
Post Number: 829
Registered: 5-2002
| | Posted on Wednesday, December 18, 2002 - 10:52 am: | |
http://www.manheimgold.com/car_lo.html |